Iran's Obstinacy
I spotted the following, dated July 8, 2006, over at CUANAS::
"TEHRAN (AFP) - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has called on Islamic countries to mobilise against Israel and 'remove' the 'Zionist regime'.Empty threats? Maybe. But consider this:
"'The basic problem in the Islamic world is the existence of the Zionist regime, and the Islamic world and the region must mobilise to remove this problem,' the president said in a speech to regional officials....
"He also issued an ominous warning to Western powers....
"'The waves of fury of Muslim nations will not be confined within the boundaries of the region, and the people who close their ears to the cries of the Palestinians and blindly support this regime will be responsible for the consequences,' he warned...."
"The U.S. intelligence community has not been surprised by Iran's refusal to respond to a Western incentive package to suspend its uranium enrichment. Intelligence sources said Iran, following North Korea's model, intends to delay any response or negotiations for as long as possible.I don't know where Epaminondas got his information, but if he is correct, there is big trouble on the way. There's Something About Islam posted the following information on July 12, 2006:
"The European Union and the United States demanded that Iran reply to the Western incentive package of nuclear technology, fuel and aircraft by June 29. But Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has said Teheran would submit an answer by Aug. 22.
"The U.S. intelligence community has been trying to figure out why Ahmadinejad chose that date. Sources said the community was stumped until some Islam experts translated the Gregorian date to that of the Muslim calendar.
"Then came the surprise that has the intelligence community worried.
"Aug. 22 corresponds to Rajab 27 on the Muslim calendar. The date is called Lailat Al Israa, when Mohammed ascended to heaven from the Al Aqsa mosque to receive the five daily prayers. Later, Al Aqsa came to represent Jerusalem.
"The Muslim commemoration is meant to be a night of struggle, accompanied by thunder and lightening, resembling the story of Moses ascending Mount Sinai to receive the Old Testament.
"Ahmadinejad could be hinting to the West that he is preparing a major attack on Israel. Or, the Iranian president could be warning that unless the West caves in, he would escalate tension in the region. The lightening in Mohammed's story could represent Iranian missiles.
"What is clear is that Ahmadinejad does not see himself as an Iranian leader, but a Muslim prophet, using imagery to portray himself as a messiah for both Sunni and Shi'ite Muslims."
"Iranian leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has rejected Western demands that he respond to a new proposal regarding the cessation of Iran’s nuclear efforts by the middle of this month.You can read the entire article here.
"To the consternation of officials in Europe and Washington, Ahmadinejad promised only to respond by the end of the Iranian month of Mordad (August 22).
"Why that date? Why so long to look over a simple package of incentives and give either a negative or a positive reply? Finding the answers to these troubling questions may require America and Europe to come to terms with a reality Western liberalism has done its best to ignore - that Islam remains engaged in a clash of civilizations with the Judeo-Christian world.
"You see, Ahmadinejad is a strong believer in the Shi’ite tradition of a 12th imam, the so-called 'hidden' Imam Mahdi who Allah has miraculously kept alive since his disappearance in 874 AD. As the story goes, Imam Mahdi will return at a time of great global chaos, oppression and bloodshed and usher in an era of (Islamic) justice.
"Ahmadinejad sees himself as Allah’s instrument to pave the way for Imam Mahdi, and constantly uses public appearances to urge his countrymen to prepare to back him in this task.
"Rumor is, Imam Mahdi could be returning this August (or shortly thereafter), just around the time some military experts believe Iran will be ready to construct its first nuclear weapon...
As a rule, I'm not keen on predictions based on specific dates, but as Mark Twain once noted:
"Apparently there is nothing that cannot happen today."
posted by Always On Watch @ 7/13/2006 10:10:00 PM
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55 Comments:
Given the Iranian president's remarks to date, his position of authority among terrorists as far back as Carter's badly mishandled hostage crisis and the information posted above, I would not even begin to take this lightly. They may be expecting to have nukes up and ready by then, or to mobilize in an all out war with Israel.
But Mahmoud is, at best, a scary character. The people some Muslim countries call "leaders" would be called "inmates" in a civilized culture.
One tiny correction,
Serious scholars believe that Mohammad ascended from the mosque in Medina, not Al Aqsa!!
The Al Aqsa myth was propagated by Haj Amin al-Huseini to try and activate Moslems to fight Jewish immigration. This was picked up and spread primarily by radical Imams and Islamofascists to cause trouble!!!
The actual passage in the Quran refers to Al Aqsa which translates literally to "most distant mosque". As there were Mosques in Turkey at the time, but Al Aqsa in Jerusalem hadn't been built yet, selecting Al Aqsa over Medina just because of distance would be pretty silly.
Here is an interesting discussion if it: http://www.wordofmessiah.org/al_aqsa_not.htm
Seth,
You're right: Ahmadinejad should not be taken lightly.
As I mentioned in my commentary in the blog article, I'm very skeptical about doomsday dates, particularly month, day, and year.
You'll notice that I found the first blog article well before the war which has broken out in the past few days in the Middle East.
Anonymous,
Serious scholars believe that Mohammad ascended from the mosque in Medina, not Al Aqsa!!
I know that there has been some debate about that. But many Muslims are not "serious scholars"; rather, they follow the lead of their imams.
Iran and the radicals have been waitting for the trigger, I believe they are using Hamas and Hezbollah as diversionary tactics against Israel and the West! I'm afraid we're in it now, but Israel(for all her failings and disobedience) is still G*D's property, occupied by G*D's people. That is a very weighty factor in Israels corner. Lies cannot overcome The Truth and HE will break out for Israel, but it will be a very rough ride. The Chinese curse about living in interesting times is coming down. May we be faithful.
Good morning and G*D bless, in spite of the circumstances!
tmw
AoW- Saw your comment at JihadWatch last night!
tmw
TMW,
Saw your comment at JihadWatch last night!
I haven't commented there in a while. And until recently, I commented as WatchfulEye, the name I chose before I started blogging. I've re-registered at TypeKey using "Always On Watch."
TMW,
I agree with your about Iran's lurking for the trigger. But I don't regard what's happening right now as Israel's playing into Iran's hand. Israel must defend herself!
Ah, Geez! I'd better get started on that underground bunker right now!
Ahmadinejad is one serious freak; I truly believe he will act on his insane beliefs. Perhaps August 22nd will be regarded by future scholars as the "official" start of WWIII?
Ahmadinejad is one power-hungry religious zealot.
It remains to be seen if he can rally the Islamic world.
Since 9/11, OBL has expressed disappointment that such a rally didn't take place--a little detail I gleaned last night from Knowing the Enemy.
i believe iran is playing into the Hand of G-d! and by G-d, syria will suffer greatly. for ahmadinejad to say if harm comes to syria at the hand of israel - he will more or less obliterate israel is just what i needed to hear to come the conclusions i have.
now wouldn't it be funny if in iran's insistence that israel be levelled, their bombs stopped short and took damascus out of existence?
isaiah 17:1.
Nanc,
I was speaking temporally, of course.
I can see those bombs belly-flopping right into Damascus!
have you noticed how close together ahmadinejad's eyes are? he reminds me of a pit bull! we know those dogs have a short temper.
beakerkin,
Dead on.
When you are driven by a belief in a religion that glorifies dying for your god, the decision to start throwing nuclear weapons to advance your ultimate goal is easy.
Wiping out the Palis with the Jews is a good trade off to them as they are just helping their co-religionists to become martyrs to the cause and go to their heaven while removing an abominable encroachment on their HOLY land.
Losing 3/4 or more of the Muslims scattered around the world is also a gain if 3 times that many of infidels are also wiped out!!!
Remember Islam is touted as the Religion of Peace by their adherents. Of course, philosopers from all groups tend to agree that there will be no peace on earth until we are all either DEAD or some god makes it so. Ahmadinejad is an Islamic religious demagogue who thinks he can promote this eventuality!!!
His desire to bring about this annihilation appears to be greatly underestimated.
Nothing is more dangerous than a religious fanatic with state-of-the-art weaponry! Such a zealot has an agenda which shows disregard for this life.
Perhaps instead of a carrot Ahmedinejad could use a stick instead? Enough with good will gestures and conciliatory offerings to the terrorist vermin, already. They only understand one thing: fear. Make the scum fear us more than they fear the mullahs and we'll have fixed the islam problem once and for all.
I think that Israel has finally had enough... We'll just have to wait and see if the Muslims stand down this time or not.
Of course you guys realize it was Iran behind the latest Hezbolla's kidnappings and rocket attacks.
Hezbollah does nothing without the mullahs blessings.
Missing Link,
Right! The mullahs are in charge!
I should have pointed that out in my commentary within the blog article. I wrote the first portion some time ago (Notice the first date within the article), then added on without mentioning the kidnappings.
These dates/numbers are important to our enemy. Sun Tzu said you must know your enemy. So we should make these dates important in our minds too.
God Bless America, God Save The Republic.
Good date to flatten Tehran with some patented American carpet bombing. I think it would wake up the smart-arses who think this guy can be talked to.
Madz says make them fear us.
Lemme see.
I know it is cruel and unusual, but, how about if we invade their countries, round up the leaders, and marry them to Hillary, Shehen...
OOOOPS, not to forget Janet Reno, Madeline Aldim...
Help me out here!!!
Anonymous,
Madeleine Allbright?
Hey, Madeleine Allbright would make them convert to just about anything, but what's the name of this cranky leftist female journo in her late 100's?
I call her Madge Notbright.
Yeah, Kim Jong Ilbred's maid!!!
Missing Link,
what's the name of this cranky leftist female journo in her late 100's?
Helen Thomas?
David,
These dates/numbers are important to our enemy.
September 11, 1683: the last day of the furthest Western point of the Ottoman Empire (Vienna)
Coincidence? One group of jihadists is fixed on Turkey's dismantlement of "the caliphate" in 1924.
From this source, quoting Reuters:
TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Thursday an Israeli strike on Syria would be considered an attack on the whole Islamic world that would bring a "fierce response", state television reported.
And this commentary on the above:
That means the dhimmi nations of Europe (which has been set against Israel for years as it is), with their large and restive Muslim populations, as well as the countries of the OIC.
Ahmadinejad may see this as his big chance to unite the Islamic world behind Iran, positioning the Shi'ite mullahocracy as the best candidate to lead the jihad against the Great Satan. Did he set Hizballah loose on Israel with particular virulence in recent weeks in order to provoke Israeli attacks against civilian targets -- which jihadists have for years tried to provoke from Israel by launching attacks from areas heavily populated by civilians? Perhaps he was hoping to unleash the full force of the world's dhimmi leftist media against Israel, and to shame Europe, if not America, into refusing to lift a finger in Israel's defense -- and/or to provoke Europe's Muslims into full-bore jihad against the dhimmi non-Muslim Europeans.
Perhaps we are witnessing an attempt to resurrect the Shi'ite Fatimid caliphate....
AOW,
I think that if Iran does make the mistake of attacking Israel, the world will be amazed at the lengths that Israel will go to, in order to defend themselves. If this is the case, this will be a major miscalculation on Iran's part.
September 11th, 1990 - President GHW Bush delivers his "new world order" speech to Congress on the matter of global opposition to Iraq's invasion of Kuwait
I think that if Iran does make the mistake of attacking Israel, the world will be amazed at the lengths that Israel will go to, in order to defend themselves.
Iran IS attacking Israel, through its Hezbollah / Pasdaran proxies in Lebanon.
Israel, unfortunately, is currently under the self-inflicted disaster of having leftists in charge of national security and foreign policy.
Right now, as we speak, there's a smoke-filled room in Jerusalem where Israeli leftists are at each other's throats trying to decide between bombing empty buildings or giving artillery positions to Fatah in the West Bank.
I'm kidding, of course. The room is probably a no smoking area.
Mr. Beamish,
Iran IS attacking Israel, through its Hezbollah / Pasdaran proxies in Lebanon.
I just heard on the news that the supposed drone which hit that Israel ship might well have been a missile which Iran obtained from China. Almost certainly, Iranian troops fired such a missile.
Right now, as we speak, there's a smoke-filled room in Jerusalem where Israeli leftists are at each other's throats trying to decide between bombing empty buildings or giving artillery positions to Fatah in the West Bank.
Peaceniks on the bong?
The missile of which I spoke: designed in China and built in Iran.
Of course, Hezbollah denies any such connection with Iran. **spit**
Peaceniks on the bong?
Nah. Leftists have never required drugs to come up with goofy ideas. But they will debate each other breathless to hammer out the most goofy idea possible.
This could go one of three ways:
1.) Concession - Israel's leftist government, inextricably wedded to the leftist principle of maximizing the threat to one's own fellow citizens, will determine which Jewish settlements in the West Bank will grant terrorists the best positions to strike Israel, and abandon them to terrorists (Gaza Pullout, part deux), or
2.) The Grozny Option - They "gotta do something" for the audience at home. Especially after bending over to get punked, and, gasp, getting punked. Israel will focus all of its firepower upon "destroying" something (up to a small city), with the same long term effect Russia's leveling of Grozny had on Chechen Muslim terrorism (i.e. nothing), or
3.) Both.
The best we can hope for is a collapse of Israel's experiment in stupidity and a right-wing government replacing it.
While there's still an Israel to govern.
Mr. Beamish,
Leftists have never required drugs to come up with goofy ideas.
True! But drugs can exacerbate the already-present dysfunction of gray matter.
From this source:
Israeli Military Says Missile Struck Warship Instead of Drone
Saturday , July 15, 2006
BEIRUT, Lebanon — A missile fired by Hezbollah, not an unmanned drone laden with explosives, damaged an Israeli warship off Lebanon, the army said Saturday.
The attack on Friday night had raised widespread concern in the Israeli military because initial information indicated that the guerrillas had used a drone for the first time to attack Israeli forces.
But the army's investigation into the attack, which left four Israeli sailors missing, showed that Hezbollah had fired an Iranian-made missile at the vessel from the shores of Lebanon, said Brig. Gen. Ido Nehushtan.
"We can confirm that it was hit by an Iranian-made missile launched by Hezbollah. We see this as very profound fingerprint of Iranian involvement in Hezbollah," Nehushtan said in an interview with The Associated Press.
Another Hezbollah missile also hit and sank a nearby civilian merchant ship at around the same time, Nehushtan said. He said that ship apparently was Egyptian, but he had no other information about it....
I'm going to throw this Israeli military / intelligence analysis source out,
Debka,
with the "grain of salt" caveat - when they're wrong, they're way wrong, but when they're right, they're balls on accurate.
Another (slanted, filtered) view to consult in the mix, for the news junkies among us (like me!)
Well, I've just read through this entire comment section and am very happy to see I'm not alone in being totally pissed off!
Thanks for a great post, AOW!
Gayle,
Anger, like misery, loves company. Perhaps the better word is "outrage."
Debka predicted kidappings and the current situation in Iraq.
Normally they are for more reliable than any MSM I know.
Still, there aren't any sources 100% foolproof.
The fact remains the thugs have been equipped by Iran with all the goodies they need to launch a proper attack on Israel.
Barry,
bin Laden certainly emboldened these lunatics.
And OBL had plenty of U.S. examples of cutting-and-running and nonreaction to make him think that 9/11 would unite and ignite the Muslim world. According to Knowing the Enemy, a new book which I'm reading right now, OBL was disappointed in the months following 9/11 with regard to what I just mentioned. At the moment, it looks as if Iran is leading the charge to do more uniting--at least, with the Shi'ites. If that August 22 date means anything, more escalation is on the way.
Anyone unable to see the linkage between events in Lebanon and Iran hasn't been paying attention. Are these events the prelude of a vast all out onslaught against Islamic extremism? Is this finally the time when people and peoples decide between good and evil...right and wrong...progression or repression?
Comment moderation?
What brought this turn of events?
American Crusader,
Good to see you back! I've missed you.
A few weeks back, this blog endured several spam attacks. Comment moderation allows for preventing those attacks and also for preventing much wasting of time in deleting comments which very nearly prevented the comments section from loading at all.
Following those reams and reams of spam, I was called a particularly offensive epithet. So...comment moderation has been enabled.
Mind you, the spammer was one at whose blog I have never, ever posted a comment nor any spam.
With regard to your comment about the current situation in the Middle East (Is this finally the time when people and peoples decide between good and evil...right and wrong...progression or repression?)
Very possibly. It's way past time for that decision, IMO.
MissingLink,
Debka certainly has its flaws, but generally they have a good grip upon reality and anticipating events.
However - "Normally they are for more reliable than any MSM I know" - so are the coins I carry in my pocket.
Crusader! So nice to see you again!
From this source:
Iran heavily invested in North Korean missile program
LONDON — Teheran has been financing Pyongyang's intermediate and ICBM programs for nearly a decade, Western intelligence sources said. The funding has been part of a deal in which North Korea would share missile technology and equipment with Iran.
"Anytime you hear of a North Korean success, translate that directly into an Iranian success," an intelligence source said. "You can be sure that within a few weeks, Iran will receive briefings, training and eventually production expertise from Pyongyang."
Iran is believed to have invested more than $1 billion in North Korean missile development...
Missing Link,
The fact remains the thugs have been equipped by Iran with all the goodies they need to launch a proper attack on Israel.
Today's news shows that investigations so far have borne that out.
A.C.- How are you doing? Missed your comments, how did your visit with your daughter go? as far as Iran is concerned, they have their fingers in a lot of pies!
tmw
Oops, that link above was wrong.
HERE is the correct one.
Looks like the "Bomb empty buildings" faction of Israel's left-wing government has won the "who's got the most goofy tactic we can implement" argument I mentioned earlier. (Damn I hate being right all the freakin' time.) No doubt Israel's keeping the power on in Gaza so they could telephone Hamas ahead of a strike to get the janitors out of the building.
Weep for the innocent bricks Israel has decided to punish.
Like this is a surprise: Iran Denies Helping Hezbollah.
I interviewed several Shia Muslims in my "interview period" before my "modern (sort of) computer era", and that whole end of the world scenario is pretty messed up to say the least. SCARY. Not that the Bible's Book of Revelation isn't, but I don't like having a country's leader trying to bring about either version.
I've corresponded with a few Iranian expatriates recently who claim that Mahmoodypants isn't that popular with the people in Iran. He has his radical followers of course, but like most people, the Iranian people don't want to be dragged into a war that will threaten their lives any more than anyone else. At any rate, it made me feel a bit better that people with relatives still in Iran hate the little bugger. He is a total loon though, and not someone I like seeing with that kind of weapons program. He's trying to bring a war on, trying as hard as he can.
We should get some "Mahdi--KEEP OUT!" signs made up or something.
Pim's Ghost,
Recently, a particular Iranian expatriate, the son or grandson of the Shah, has been interviewed on FNC. But the interviews have not dealt with the mahdi concept.
Of course, "Islamophobia" prevents disseminating the information.
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