Wednesday, December 13, 2006

Flying While Muslim

(All emphases by Always On Watch)

Just in time for the Hajj, which begins on December 29, CAIR, now the legal representative of five of the six praying imams and pursuing an out-of-court settlement, is stirring the pot:
American Muslims making a religious pilgrimage to Mecca are being encouraged to file civil rights complaints if they feel discriminated against by airlines.

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), citing what it called the "airport profiling" of six imams removed from a recent flight, yesterday said Muslims traveling this month to the holy site in Saudi Arabia need to be aware of their rights.

"Given the increase in the number of complaints CAIR has received alleging airport profiling of American Muslims, we believe it is important that all those taking part in this year's hajj be aware of their legal and civil rights," said Ibrahim Hooper, CAIR spokesman.
Apparently CAIR has distributed materials specifically delineating how to promote this flying-while-Muslim agenda:
A guide issued by CAIR advises Muslims that "as an airline passenger, you are entitled to courteous, respectful and non-stigmatizing treatment by airline and security personnel."

"You have the right to complain about treatment that you believe is discriminatory," the guide says.

Those treated in a discriminatory manner are advised by CAIR to "ask for the names and ID numbers of all persons involved in the incident. Be sure to write this information down."
CAIR recently held this day-long conference:
On December 9, the Maryland and Virginia chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-MD/VA), in cooperation with the D.C. Coordinating Council of Muslim Organizations (DC-CCMO) and the Fairfax Institute, will hold its first annual Imams' media relations conference in Herndon, Va.

The one-day conference is designed to teach Imams, community leaders and activists how to interact effectively with media professionals. Sessions will cover basic media relations skills.
"Basic media relations skills"? And something else, too, including the distribution of materials as to how to intimidate the airlines from following proper security-procedures? According to one airline official,
"You do wonder what the ultimate aim is here [with regard to the six praying imams and CAIR's involvement]; to eliminate a discriminatory practice that does not exist, or is there some other agenda afoot."
The above-cited article in the Washington Times also contains the following with regard to CAIR's possible agenda:
Pilots and air marshals called the incident a "PC probe" to intimidate passengers and crew from reporting suspicious behavior by Muslim passengers and are fearful the incident will set off a domino effect of lawsuits.

Debra Burlingame, whose brother was the pilot of American Airlines Flight 77 that crashed into the Pentagon on September 11, thinks this is a ploy to extort money from the airlines.

"I think CAIR is soliciting complaints, and if they don't get it, they will make it up," said Miss Burlingame, who is also a director for the World Trade Center Memorial Foundation.
Although CAIR likes to promote itself as representative of all or of the majority of American Muslims, such is not the case:
M. Zuhdi Jasser, a Phoenix physician and chairman of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy (AIFD), said the announcement by CAIR "continues the tired stoking of the flames of victimization."

"They are unfortunately exploiting, for purely political reasons, what should be a sacred and purely spiritual story of our faith's annual holy pilgrimage to Mecca," Dr. Jasser said.

"We need new leadership and organizations which use their passions and the bandwidth of the media to lead the ideological fight against radical and political Islam rather than this tired pre-emption of supposed discrimination."


At 12/13/2006 7:46 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"We need new leadership and organizations which use their passions and the bandwidth of the media to lead the ideological fight against radical and political Islam rather than this tired pre-emption of supposed discrimination."

Amen to that!

At 12/13/2006 9:23 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

And now, THIS:

Last week Clearchannel radio KFYI Phoenix interviewed Iman Omar (Spokesman for the 6 Imans on a plane, defender of Osama bin Laden)of the East Valley Mosque. After Omar was given the opportunity to spew his propaganda regarding American and Islam, KFYI producer Kate O'Neill brought in Islamic expert Mohammed Saeed to set the record straight. Saeed refuted every detail of the Imam's version of Islam and opined that The Jordanian clerics were out to embarrass the American people by claiming to be "Victims" of racial profiling.

The KFYI phones lit up as Arizonans called in the show to voice their views on the matter. "Get out of our country" was the prevalent view expressed by the outraged citizenry.

The controversy over the interview continued all week as KFYI programs were inundated with phone calls from angry citizens. KFYI should have been extremely pleased with the response. Unfortunately the testosterone-challenged management at the station responded to the success of the interview by having a program director on hand during producer Kate O'Neil's shows.....ready to the pull the plug instantly if O'Neill dared to court further controversy by confronting the issue of the Jihad in America.

On Friday December 1st, the KFYI management fired outspoken Kate O'Neill.

At 12/13/2006 9:38 AM, Blogger Brooke said...

It is all-out legal jihad!

At 12/13/2006 9:46 AM, Blogger nanc said...

they need their own airlines!

i'd find a way around the discrimination thing by putting a sign up which reads:














At 12/13/2006 10:23 AM, Blogger VerityINK said...

Thank you so much for the gmail invite, AoW--it worked like a charm! You are so helpful!

At 12/13/2006 10:25 AM, Blogger VerityINK said...

My God, they fired that woman? How terribly unfair! CU HAS to keep on that damnable Ward Churchill when he spouts his anti-American hate, but she tries to present a balanced view--and they fire her??????

At 12/13/2006 10:40 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's really tiresome watching our enemies use our own legal system against us, and our elected leaders stand by and let it happen, even perform the "kiss of shame" on the folks who represent the enemy, in the interests of PC, the instant these people scold them for hinting at the truth or allowing security personnel to do their jobs. I'd be willing to bet that CAIR and the ACLU score yet another victory in the damaging of our security -- notice how the "Flying Imam" event occurred less than 2 months before the Democrats swear in a majority on the Hill.

Nanc, the only problem with a Muslim airline is that all their planes would crash directly into buildings, bridges, etc right after take-off.

What we really need are some tough judges who know the stakes (ain't gonna happen), all the way to the top, who will simply dismiss these discrimination cases right off the bat, and yes, have "We reserve the right to refuse service..." signs. After all, other businesses of infinitely less risk factor can have them and enforce them. In Nevada, a casino can bar you from the premises, legally, without having to provide a reason, on the scene or in court. If it were up to me, we would make it so difficult for a Muslim to board a plane or even get on Amtrak that they'd keep the ACLU and CAIR tied up in court forever, and every case would be dismissed directly after the plaintiffs' attorneys presented their cases.

No matter how fed up they got, I'd wager that all we'd hear would be complaints about discrimination, yet still not hear more than one or two voices of so-called "peaceful Muslims" raised against terrorism.

At 12/13/2006 11:04 AM, Blogger Old Soldier said...

Imams who do not recognize the "authority" of the United States as a nation and government are taking thier complaint to our court system??? Just how much more accomodating must we be? I guess we must supply our own vaseline when we are required to bend over!

At 12/13/2006 11:28 AM, Blogger Gayle said...

LOL Old Soldier!

Hi AOW. Yeah, this entire thing is nutso! CAIR is also our enemy, and I'm so sick and tired of CAIR and the ACLU I could scream!

At 12/13/2006 11:29 AM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

I thought Ward Chucchill got s***canned. Big tempest in a teapot anyway.

I wonder when the airlines are going to get a clue about probable cause. So the imams were paraying. You'd think Americans had never seen a muslim pray...oh, wait, my bad.

Unfortunate that the airlines have to take the weight for the drama queens who figured the airport screening wouldn't detect the thermonuclear devices hidden in the imams robes.

At 12/13/2006 11:51 AM, Blogger WomanHonorThyself said...

nanc is right...they do need their own flippin airlines..what a sick thing that anyone allows CA-IR to even have a voice..great post AOW!

At 12/13/2006 12:06 PM, Blogger nanc said...

shut up, plucky!

At 12/13/2006 12:28 PM, Blogger kuhnkat said...

Little Che Sucky Chucklenuts just HAS to LIE about the incident. Would you like to tell us the other 1/2 dozen actions taken by the imams to bring themselves to the negative attention of the other passengers and flight crew that got them kicked off??

Of course you don't. You just want to spread your lies and try to negatively influence the dialogue.

Good luck liar!!



At 12/13/2006 12:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't say which side is worse... the CAIR imams who insist on praying in the middle of the passenger terminals, or the loonie lactivists who refuse to cover up or show the slightest modicum of modesty at the ticket counters.

All I know is that if we leave the answer to these questions to lawyers...

At 12/13/2006 2:17 PM, Blogger American Crusader said...

Thanks for that link AOW...I have asserted from day one that CAIR had orchestrated the entire event.
CAIR is waging jihad. They may not be shooting bullets but they are waging war nonetheless.
We all know what CAIR's ultimate goal is.
To obtain that goal, step one is to gain a foothold in America. We allowed this by granting political asylum. Dearborn has the largest Iraqi population outside of Iraq.
Step two is to get "special treatment" for Muslims.
If any other group had committed this sham at the airport they would still be in jail. CAIR uses charges of bigotry to silence and opposition.
They want to use sharia law to settle civil matters. They want women to be able to get drivers licenses while fully veiled. They want prayer rooms at airports. They are constantly pushing and demanding special status.
They use every right guaranteed by the Constitution, especially free-speech, while silencing others. They want all their rights but with none of the responsibilities of living in a free country.

At 12/13/2006 2:21 PM, Blogger American Crusader said...'re a smart guy. Do you really believe that all they were doing was praying?
If they were off to the side and quietly praying none of this would have happened. Don't be obtuse.

At 12/13/2006 3:03 PM, Blogger (((Thought Criminal))) said...

AC and Kuhnkat,

Ducky is a leftist. He's told you this several hundred times.

Why in the fuck do you still have the bizarre notion he's capable of intellectual honesty?

At 12/13/2006 3:14 PM, Blogger American Crusader said...

Because he is obviously intelligent.

At 12/13/2006 3:49 PM, Blogger VerityINK said...

AoW--Don't worry about taking a bit of a break. Bloggers still 'twitchy' at my house, so posting takes twice as long as my browser keeps crashing. I've got so much to read, I can't EVEN catch up!

You and the Mr. get over your flu, I'm hoping?

At 12/13/2006 4:48 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I wonder when the airlines are going to get a clue about probable cause?"

What? Do they need to catch them in the act of detonating before they can do anything?

They weren't just praying, they were yelling obscenities about their civil liberties, condemning the US and were blatantly promoting al-Qaida in the open.

How much more would YOU need? The bomb going off?

Sorry, but in MY world, they'd already be rounded up like animals and sent away, never to return.

This pandering and apologetic kow-towing with radical Islam has got to stop.

At 12/13/2006 5:31 PM, Blogger John Brown said...

The people they really should ban from flights are EVIL alCIAda GOBLINS.

After all, if Uncle Sam wants to stop terrorists, perhaps he should go after the enemy within his own government instead of picking on a few religious peoeple.

If he did that, though, he wouldn't be Vanilla Sam now, would he?

At 12/13/2006 5:32 PM, Blogger John Brown said...


So you support the Hitler strategy?

Very interesting.

That's awfully Vanilla Sam of you.

At 12/13/2006 5:33 PM, Blogger John Brown said...

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At 12/13/2006 6:34 PM, Blogger MULLAH BEAK the DHS PEDOPHILE said...

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At 12/13/2006 10:30 PM, Blogger Warren said...

American Crusader said...

"Because he is obviously intelligent."

Hope springs eternal?

At 12/13/2006 10:57 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Crusader & Warren,
I'm not sure that a decent IQ means having common sense. Nor does a high IQ lead to having character or even to discerning the facts.

At 12/13/2006 11:51 PM, Blogger nanc said...

hope would have to spring farther than that, warren!

aow? idiot savant?

i'm off to see the wizard - goodnight everybody.

At 12/14/2006 12:16 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

JB, I heard your nickname in prison was Vicky, same as Saddam's.

At 12/14/2006 1:58 AM, Blogger (((Thought Criminal))) said...


Impossible. Intelligent leftists are like four-sided triangles.

They don't exist.

At 12/14/2006 8:27 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

...roasted nuts, anyone?

At 12/14/2006 8:37 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Mornin', Farmer!

At 12/14/2006 8:39 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Old Soldier,
Imams who do not recognize the "authority" of the United States as a nation and government are taking thier complaint to our court system???

Well said!

The entire scenario is surreal.

At 12/14/2006 8:41 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

So the imams were paraying. You'd think Americans had never seen a muslim pray...

There was a lot more to what happened. You know that.

At 12/14/2006 8:42 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

CAIR has taken up in the past, with regard to discrimination from the airlines. From this source:

Another incident of interest occurred during Shahin's tenure at ITC. On June 13, 2003, the FBI arrested Muhammad Al-Qudhai'een, who was active at the mosque, and transported him to Virginia to testify as a material witness before a federal grand jury investigating 9/11.

According to the 9/11 Commission Report, Al-Qudhai'een and Hamdan al Shalawi, a fellow Saudi, were removed from an America West flight after engaging in what the flight crew considered suspicious activity. The crew asserted that Al-Qudhai'een had twice attempted to open the plane's cockpit door. After 9/11, FBI agents in Phoenix considered whether the incident had been a "dry run" for the attacks. The 9/11 Commission noted that Al Shalawi had reportedly trained in Afghan terrorist camps in November 2000, learning how to conduct "Khobar Towers"-type bombing attacks.

The America West incident attracted national attention in 1999. In 2000, the two Saudis filed a lawsuit alleging racial discrimination by the airline. "What happened to us was based on racial and religious discrimination," al Shalawi told the Arizona Republic. CAIR hired the Saudis' attorney for them, and urged a boycott of the airline. America West won the lawsuit. Al-Qudhai'een was later deported to Saudi Arabia.

At 12/14/2006 8:45 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

This pandering and apologetic kow-towing with radical Islam has got to stop.

Well, it won't--until we have another attack, possibly even more horrific that 9/11.

At 12/14/2006 8:47 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Bloggers still 'twitchy'

Every time Blogger makes "improvements," I can't get images to upload to my posts.

My husband and I are better. But it's been a long haul!

Unfortunately, we also gave this stomach virus to our bathroom remodeler. He's way behind schedule and catching up as best he can.

At 12/14/2006 8:51 AM, Blogger nanc said...

i think you gave it to me, too...and now nancson is exhibiting symptoms...

what are the chances these things have been coming in via ship staff?

when we went on a cruise a hundred or so years ago - there were staff from fifty-plus countries - look at all the people getting sick while sailing the's worth a thought.

At 12/14/2006 8:52 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

CAIR is waging jihad. They may not be shooting bullets but they are waging war nonetheless.

Jihad does come in different forms as its basic meaning is "struggle." We have militant jihad and cultural jihad (aka Islamification). In many ways, the latter is the more dangerous.

The concept of freedom of speech is not Koranic. Nevertheless, CAIR is taking the tack of freedom of speech to undermine voices which voice dissent to their agenda. As Brigitte Gabriel has said, "using our freedoms against us."

CAIR is working toward becoming masters at manipulating our legal system. Why can't most people see that!

At 12/14/2006 8:56 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

This stomach virus is so awful that it might indeed be transmitted via web sites!

what are the chances these things have been coming in via ship staff?

Pretty good, I think. And possibly from those who have just returned from a cruise.

I'm convinced that what my husband and I had is a form of Norvovirus. I haven't been this sick since contracting food poisoning back in 2004.

At 12/14/2006 9:05 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

I can't say which side is worse... the CAIR imams who insist on praying in the middle of the passenger terminals, or the loonie lactivists...

The latter, because they should know better.

At 12/14/2006 9:07 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

they do need their own flippin airlines..what a sick thing that anyone allows CA-IR to even have a voice..

Imagine how much more peace of mind we could have if they DID have their own airlines--with missiles trained on their airliners should they violate their filed flight-paths!

At 12/14/2006 9:08 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

they fired that woman? How terribly unfair!

So much for reasoned and open dialogue!

And the arrogance of not allowing dissent? Well, that's where we're heading in this country.

At 12/14/2006 11:51 AM, Blogger cube said...

Brooke is right. It is all out legal jihad.

At 12/14/2006 11:52 AM, Blogger VerityINK said...

That's all we need! We have a cruise ship that comes in here every weekend--8 blocks from our apt. My sis works Saturdays at the office supply store downtown and she sell tons of laptops and junk to the crew! I'll tell her to wash her hands a LOT...sigh.

At 12/14/2006 11:53 AM, Blogger VerityINK said...

Ducky, why are you stuck on stupid?

At 12/14/2006 1:29 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


What a clever way to circumvent ITAR Regulations. I betcha stuff leaving the country never gets checked. I used to only have to declare my overseas purchases upon re-entering the country...

At 12/14/2006 2:45 PM, Blogger nanc said...

i just believe if you have people from over fifty countries wandering around your town for a few hours EVERY time a ship comes into harbor - and several ships have brought sick people home - what are the chances this is but one way so many are sick right now?

the secondmost spreader of germs - shopping carts - our local grocer keeps a stand of disinfectant wipes right near the carts - wipe them down!

as far as plucky goes - tape a nickel to his head! i heard that one from impertinent at fpm.

At 12/14/2006 2:50 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Grocery carts! I'll bet that where my husband picked up the virus! He pushes the car when we shop on Sundays. He came down with the virus on a Monday, and I got sick within 36 hours.

Of course, we live in a multi-national area, so we could have picked up the virus in another way.

At 12/14/2006 5:00 PM, Blogger nanc said...

carry a travel pack of baby wipes - i always did when the kids were toddlers and used the unscented kind and even sprayed them with rubbing alcohol just for those times and we were rarely sick and the kids were always so healthy. i'm going to start carrying them again - this has been the ugliest thing i've contracted in about seven years!

At 12/14/2006 5:31 PM, Blogger (((Thought Criminal))) said...


Ducky, why are you stuck on stupid?

C'mon! He ain't shy about tellling you he's a leftist. No where in the annals of human history has there appeared a leftist you could back in a debate against a head of lettuce and have a reasonable chance of being on the winning side.

At 12/14/2006 6:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have used the sanitary wipes at our grocery store for months. Nanc, you might suggest to your grcery store to do the same, to help stop bugs from spreading to the employees. Small expenditure against loss of productivity! Use that approach, it may help!

And yes, there are idiots who think their pleasure and convenience trumps everyone elses wellbeing!

At 12/15/2006 6:08 AM, Blogger Eleanor © said...

AOW - The real purpose of this stunt is a strategy known as legal Islamism. The goal is to soften up the American people to accept the End of Racial Profiling Act that has been languishing in Congress.

Rep. John Conyers of Michigan, whose district includes one of the largest Muslim populations in the country introduced the bill in 2004 and 2005. Keith Ellison with the infamous Nancy Pelosi who called herself a "proud" cosponsor of the act in 2004 are supposed to hurry it through.

This one requires a letter-writing campaign. Notice that the imams behaviors coincided with the Haj and the Christmas and Hannakah holidays, a time when most people are celebrating and distracted from the holidays, a perfect time, if not to create, but to sneak a vote on this kind of legislation as even after the beginning of the new Congress, most still will be distracted.

At 12/15/2006 6:18 AM, Blogger Eleanor © said...

AOW: Here's further analysis of the End of Racial Profiling Act:

"On the surface this bill appears to be a waste of paper. They are attempting to pass legislation whose sole purpose is to enforce prior legislation. A little redundant dont you think?

But buryed (sic) in this legislation is what I consider the true reason.

(d) ATTORNEYS’ FEES- In any action or proceeding to enforce this title against any governmental unit, the court may allow a prevailing plaintiff, other than the United States, reasonable attorneys’ fees as part of the costs, and may include expert fees as part of the attorney’s fee.

The Republican held House passed the Public Expression of Religion Act to prevent groups like the ACLU from collecting huge sums of money from both federal and local government (both Pelosi and Conyers voted against PERA). This bill has not passed the Senate as of yet, however with the Democrats taking control it is unlikely PERA will pass. Now with this new act, which is likely to pass, the ACLU and similar orginizations will have a new way to exthort money from our government.

Let’s take a look at how simple it would be to “prove” racial profiling.

(c) NATURE OF PROOF- Proof that the routine investigatory activities of law enforcement agents in a jurisdiction have had a disparate impact on racial or ethnic minorities shall constitute prima facie evidence of a violation of this title."

At 12/15/2006 6:28 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

I read all of the links that you provided. And I gasped at each one!

This is legal jihad! CAIR and the left will team up. Can they accomplish their goal of "ending racial profiling"? Possibly, unless the American people wake up in large numbers. Most Americans are more concerned about the next version of PlayStation than they are about the erosion of our Constitution and of our culture.

Thank you so much for the above information. If I can get my act together, I'll post it at my new site.


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