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From "Irate Muslims Stage New Protests" :
"In London,...after Friday prayers..., some chanted, 'Jihad! Jihad!' and held up placards that read, 'Learn the lesson from 9/11'...."
posted by Always On Watch @ 2/04/2006 06:33:00 PM
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hey aow - see if mine posts - copy back here if it works - i've not been able to get on many eblog sites this eve (for the last hour or so). autonomist one of my faves and it's down or i am. thanx - nanc
Blogger is back. It's good to be back!
From my visits to heavily traveled websites, I see a reaction against the Islamic outburst which is healthy. The bizarre and violent reaction of Muslims around the world (including Muslim leaders) shows that the old canard, “it’s only a few,” is nonsense (as the Hamas election also showed.) This is a face of Islam that is mainstream and it’s becoming obvious.
The added insult is the demand that the West impose censorship, i.e. stop being the West. This has added to the outrage that has even gotten many on the left re-thinking their position.
The big disappointment is our press and government. But I’ve talked about that on my blog
Been having trouble with Blogger and getting into Blogger sites all day. I can't get into Beakerkin's site at all.
It's either a goofy glitch at Blogger or a left-wing conspiracy to try to suppress information.
Either way, the origin of the problem lies within stupidity.
Lessons from 9/11?!!..and that would beeeeeeeeeee?
The lesson from 9/11, or 7/7 is that we are at war with a hideous and evil enemy that will kill innocent civilians at the drop of a hat, no silly cartoon provocation needed.
Unfortunately, too many people haven't learned that lesson and our enemy is out in the open threatening to teach us again in a more painful way.
Will we wise up before it is too late?
P.S. BLOGGER BOOGER SUCKS!
Hey, Blogger is back! The problem started shortly after 9:00 P.M. on February 3, the day which the worm was set to activate. Starting late on February 3, certain sites were unavailable to me.
I wonder if this Blogger foul-up had anything to do with that Kuma Satra worm? Did that worm get into Blogger? All comments came to me in notification, but they didn't appear on this site (mostly to the previous article, which I had to post several times before it would stay up, and that previous article was cited on the WaPo's web page). And my class's homework site, which doesn't accept comments for obvious reasons, had the same problem. I couldn't even get postings to stay in Blogger as drafts.
I took all possible precautions to prevent the worm from getting into my computer. Did Blogger?
So maybe Beamish is right: the origin of the problem lies within stupidity.
"The lesson from 9/11"? It's the same lesson as that of the cartoons. It's the Islamic way only, and those who don't fall into line will be attacked, terrorized, subjugated, slaughtered. Dar al-Islam must be established, and a state of Islamic holy war exists until the goal is accomplished.
But spectacular attacks are not the only means to reach the goal. CAIR has stated that quiet methods are also being used. The Council on Islamic Education works very hard to change how Islam is presented in our educational institutions, and other Islamic organizations also do the same--without flying planes into buildings. Islamification of the Western world proceeds apace, and both the Western and Muslim reaction to the cartoons proves my point.
The burning of the Danish Embassy clearly illustrates that Islam doesn't separate governement from religion. As Jason has said many times, Islam is a geopolitical ideology.
Well, I learned my own lesson from 9/11. I started my research on Islam on 9/12/01, but didn't feel knowledgeable enough to say much until the summer of 2005. Two books opened my eyes: Anis Shorrosh's Islam Revealed and Serge Trifkovic's The Sword of the Prophet. Now available is Mark Alexander's A New Dark Age is Dawning: Essays on Islam. Both Mr. Alexander's book and web site are a good place to start for those who are just getting started on their own research--or to help reinforce what is becoming more and more apparent. Jason's site also has important articles and essays; "Is Islam Evil?" was one of his first articles I read on the web. It's an important piece.
I've learned my lesson from 9/11, all right. And I won't keep quiet about it. The way for us to combat the enemy is to educate others. If we don't, the msm will see to it that Islamification gains more and more ground. The Truth Project is an information site, and Infidel Bloggers Alliance has current information from bloggers from all over the world. And Pedestrian Infidel has information from an apostate who recently started blogging. There are numerous other sites as well.
Always
I have visited some of these other sites as my blog has been down . We have to do a better job helping out our friends with troll infestations. Mark had a nasty one from Indonesia and Mike had a generic untalented Commie.
If you are being trolled fight back
and do not be afraid to ask for help. My sight was infested for months and my best friend in the blogosphere did pitched battle for months. As soon as Jason showed up my trolls fled for the hills. Libertarians scare the pants off Communists.
Lets fight the good fight and help our peers under siege. We fight together or hang seperate.
In rare cases we should even mass invade the blogs of persistant trolls.
However it is refreshing to see others deal with the problem. Jason even won an award from an Islamic site . They obviously have yet to read Mr Beamish. I didn't even get a single vote and I am still insulted.
Mussolini,
If it's any consolation, my views against Muslims were roundly criticized before 9/11 (long before I was blogging)
You'd be surprised how many people in my circle of real life friends now respect my view, and are also upset with the PC eggshell walking approach.
But, when I was a kid, a guy from my church was murdered with the Marines in Beirut. Another friend of mine was injured in a bus bombing outside Jerusalem. The USS Cole had just relieved my oldest brother's destroyer in Yemen when it was bombed.
Islam has been at war with me for a long, long time.
And yes, I saw the news that the USS Cole bombing "mastermind" had "escaped" from prison.
Now he's hiding within a population of people who hate Jews and Americans, where he's camouflaged.
Grrr.
Shock and awe, we'll know it when the military is allowed to use it.
Mussolini,
We in the West have taken great pains to say that we are not at war with a religion. BAHAHAHA! Our enemy has never said this war was anything else!
That is so, and what you've mentioned is indeed one of the lessons from 9/11.
And now is the time for the moderates to step forth and "reclaim" their "noble faith." Now is the time to prove that Islam and democracy are compatible. Of course, the problem is that MTP is revered across the spectrum of Islam. And from some of the placards these protesters are carrying, beheading is the punishment for insulting MTP; the Danish cartoonists are now in hiding for their own protection.
We are seeing, with the cartoon jihad, the true implications of shari'a law.
From Ibn Warraq, who left Islam:
Best-selling author and Muslim dissident Ibn Warraq argues that freedom of expression is our western heritage and we must defend it against attacks from totalitarian societies. If the west does not stand in solidarity with the Danish, he argues, then the Islamization of Europe will have begun in earnest.
The great British philosopher John Stuart Mill wrote in On Liberty, "Strange it is, that men should admit the validity of the arguments for free discussion, but object to their being 'pushed to an extreme'; not seeing that unless the reasons are good for an extreme case, they are not good for any case."
The cartoons in the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten raise the most important question of our times: freedom of expression. Are we in the west going to cave into pressure from societies with a medieval mindset, or are we going to defend our most precious freedom --freedom of expression, a freedom for which thousands of people sacrificed their lives?...
This raises another more general problem: the inability of the West to defend itself intellectually and culturally....
On the world stage, should we really apologize for Dante, Shakespeare, and Goethe? Mozart, Beethoven and Bach? Rembrandt, Vermeer, Van Gogh, Breughel, Ter Borch? Galileo, Huygens, Copernicus, Newton and
Darwin? Penicillin and computers? The Olympic Games and Football? Human rights and parliamentary democracy? The west is the source of the liberating ideas of individual liberty, political democracy, the rule of law, human rights and cultural freedom. It is the west that has raised the status of women, fought against slavery, defended freedom of enquiry, expression and conscience....
There is more to the article which I've excerpted above. Read it all!
Have you seen their posters?
Felis,
Yes, I've seen the posters on various sites. Those posters make a real statement, don't they?
If Islam does not start policing their own and speaking out against such radical voilence, they may be allowing the 21st Century Crusades to be at hand. I am not opposed to Muslims; but I will biterly oppose (to the death) a religion that demands I convert to their beliefs.
Old Soldier,
I'm with you--anyone can practice his beliefs so long as he allows me room to practice mine.
I keep hoping to see Islam "police their own," but I don't see much evidence of that happening.
Welcome back, BTW!
Beak,
You're right. Sometimes we need to unite against trolls.
I could resent that statement!!
So far the Muslim community world wide has not shown any form of restraining their more venomous members in the slightest. They're allowing the "Muslim Inquisition" to represent them and their religion.
Beak
"In rare cases we should even mass invade the blogs of persistant trolls."
What pisses me off is that those types of trolls rarely if ever have their own blog.
The violence must get worse before the masses of people can come to grips with the scope of what were fighting.
Ethnic warfare will break out in Europe before America.
"Those posters make a real statement, don't they?"
Yep.
Why do I get this itchy sensation around my neck??
City Troll
Ducky is a rare exception and most of these clowns have blogs. If the Duck came here or to my site without the vulgarity and said I disagree due to X no problem.
A person becomes a pest once they start with the comedic labels like
Kahanist for me on a blog that seldom even discusses Israel.
AOW
I was joking to someone who accused me of creating special posts for Bad Eagle of trying to pitch their site. If I wanted higher numbers I would try to create special material for this site.
The post on Bad Eagle was a cutting room outake that was viewed as more appropriate for that site. Some day I will even return to my comedic roots. However, the time isn't right yet.
The situation is going to get worse precisely because our political leaders are not taking a strong enough stand. As the percentage of Muslims in Western nations reaches critical mass, demonstrators get bolder and start carrying signs which clearly delineate the battle lines.
Now, maybe the cartoon jihad will fizzle out (In the words of FNC just a few minutes ago: "Put the lid back on"), but the problem will still be simmering below the surface, only to erupt again.
Islamists are waging a holy war and have so declared. One aspect of that war is spectacular attacks, another is economic jihad, and yet another is Islamification of Western society. The United States may not be waging a war against all of Islam (a holy war), but the fact is that the enemy, who made the declaration very dramatically on 9/11, sees this conflict as a holy war.
The very existence of those who don't adhere to Islam is offensive and blasphemous to much of what is written in the Koran. Let Muslims cry, "It's not Islamic!" and hordes of them take to the streets and start burning embassies; others, such as Saudi, break off diplomatic relations with Denmark until Denmark apologizes for what appeared in a newspaper. That is surreal to me--except for the fact that I understand that Islam doesn't separate government from individual freedoms, precisely because shari'a law doesn't recognize that distinction. The rule of law, as Western society knows it, is just now in their vocabulary because everything has to be measured LITERALLY against the harsh standards of the Koran.
Can you imagine the outcry if a Western nation broke off diplomatic relations with a Muslim nation over a bunch of newspaper caricatures?
The West is now being held hostage by a bunch of cartoons!
Just how far do I go so as not to offend Muslims? Start wearing a hijab, absolutely required by several Muslim sects? Good grief!
Beamish: Ethnic warfare will break out in Europe before America.
As Bassizzzt, that warfare has already broken out in Europe. Much of it is on a small scale--so far. That will change for the worse, as City Troll pointed out.
Our own government will fight against us.
Will?
Mussolini,
I'm sure that the Muslim population is quite high in Southern CA. And I'm sure that you've heard about the Muslim population in the Detroit area. According to Oriana Fallaci, one can sort of assess how high the percentage is by seeing how many Hal-Al markets are in a particular region.
Still, if they comprise 6-7% of the population like I think they do, those numbers are still too small. We have some time before things get bad.
Where they can hurt us with 6% is when they convince the lefties to "include" and "respect" them by allowing voluntary sharia law. Half the country is deluded enough (as lefties go) to believe that such a gesture would be the penultimate kumbaya that unites humanity...
Multiculturalism, promoted throughout our educational institutions, will see to it that all of us "respect" shari'a law. Never mind that shari'a law doesn't have room for the practice of Western law.
better than half of the USA, right now, would vote in sharia law.
You think so? That's a chilling thought!
Y'all are over thinking this. How many mosques, "masjids," Islamic centers, etc. appear in your local phone book?
St. Louis, MO and metropolitan area: 5 at my last count.
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