Monday, November 13, 2006

CAIR: The Other Winner In The November 7 Elections?

From "CAIR's Congress," in today's edition of FrontPageMagazine:
With the Democratic victory in the midterm elections, one big winner was the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR). The American Islamic pressure group now has a chance to advance its agenda in numerous ways, with energetic water-carrying by, among others, the Speaker of the House, the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, and the first Muslim member of Congress....
The article goes on to discuss John Conyers and House Resolution 288. According to the article in FPM,

Such a bill, of course, would do a great deal to stifle honest discussion of the elements of Islam that give rise today to violence and fanaticism. William Gawthrop, former program manager for the Joint Terrorism Task Force of the Defense Department’s Counterintelligence Field Activity (CIFA), has noted: “There is evidence to support the contention that sources of terrorism in Islam may reside within the strategic themes of Islam,” including “the example of Muhammad, the Quran, the hadiths, Islamic law, the pillars of faith and jihad.” However, “as late as early 2006, the senior service colleges of the Department of Defense had not incorporated into their curriculum a systematic study of Muhammad as a military or political leader. As a consequence, we still do not have an in-depth understanding of the war-fighting doctrine laid down by Muhammad, how it might be applied today by an increasing number of Islamic groups, or how it might be countered.” Conyers’ resolution would effectively end any hope that the Department of Defense or any other agency would begin such study, as vitally needed as it is.

Nothing would please CAIR more, of course, as that agency routinely tars as “bigotry” any attempt to discuss such matters.
Read the entire article HERE.

[Hat-tip to Nanc for alerting me to the article in FPM]


At 11/13/2006 8:28 AM, Blogger Gayle said...

Ye gods and little fishes! This gets crazier and crazier, AOW! This bs has got to be stopped. Islamofascists are our sworn enemies, drooling at the opportunity of chopping off our children's heads, and we're not supposed to criticize them or search them at airports? If that goes into effect, Conyerss and Pelosi will be directly responsible for the planes that are blown up and the people who are killed. She can also claim responsibility for the Airline's loss of revenue, as I don't believe many Americans would be flying under such circumstances. The woman is insane and so is Conyers!

At 11/13/2006 8:31 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

The woman is insane and so is Conyers!

A very dangerous form of insanity!

My father used to say, "Most crazy people don't harm anyone else." Of course, he wasn't talking about politicians. I won't type in here what he had to say about politicians in general. Dad was usually a man of no profanity, but certain politicians would drive Dad to be quite blunt.

At 11/13/2006 8:46 AM, Blogger nanc said...

blunt is good and fine when correctly directed, aow.

thanks for the nod.

At 11/13/2006 9:05 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


It is important that you look at Conyers Marxist ties. He has an extensive DTN file.

He has a problem with laws preventing flag burning but wants to pass laws prohibiting burning Korans.

I do not advocate burning books as it has parallels to Nazism. However throwing poutlry into the fire while reading Fanon is a mere fantasy.

At 11/13/2006 9:15 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

We be screwed.

By the time the Dems are through, life in this country will be one nightmare after another.

At 11/13/2006 9:25 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Thanks for that heads-up, which led me to check DTN.

Excerpt from your mention of Discover The Networks (DTN) file on Conyers:

In a June 1, 1979 New York Times opinion piece he co-authored with Marcus Raskin, co-founder of the extreme leftwing think tank the Institute for Policy Studies (IPS), Conyers asserted that "government's responsibility is to revitalize the nation's economy through creative forms of public ownership" - in other words, through socialism....

Conyers helped enact "hate crime" laws, which critics have described as punishing people for "thought crimes" and politically-incorrect speech....

In January 2003 he was the only member of Congress to speak before, and lend his prestige to, an anti-war rally organized by the Marxist-Leninist, pro-North Korean front group International A.N.S.W.E.R. (Rep. Rangel also addressed the rally but not in person - via a letter read by another speaker.) Conyers embraced his comrades in this group with the same enthusiasm and support he gave during the Cold War to the Soviet-backed World Peace Council....

In 2003-2004 Conyers received 85.4 percent of his campaign contributions from outside the state and district he represents.

At 11/13/2006 9:29 AM, Blogger WomanHonorThyself said...

Between Conyers and Hillary and Pelosi and Ellison..we may as well pack up and move to another country!..wont be long before Shaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-riah is here!..God forbid!

At 11/13/2006 9:49 AM, Blogger nanc said...

dtn is a valuable source of info. one can get lost in there if they'd like - i did for about a month two years ago...

At 11/13/2006 10:00 AM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

I find it hilarious that FrontPage Magazine is talking about "honest discussion".

The Conyers bill would prevent the Department of Defense from studying Muhammed as a political leader and fighter? Do you people realize how ludicrous you are?

Why not venture out of your nest of paranoia into the world.

At 11/13/2006 11:14 AM, Blogger nanc said...

i'm sending the jaws of life over, plucky - hold on - they'll be able to hopefully pry your head from the dark place!

At 11/13/2006 12:07 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

LOL! The jaws of life would indeed be required.

At 11/13/2006 12:24 PM, Blogger Brooke said...

Nest of paranoia?


Shall I join you in the nest of the rosy fantasy world, where utopianism reigns and we all join hands and sing "Kumbaya" while the Islamo-fascists size us all up for the chopping block and burqas?

At 11/13/2006 12:35 PM, Blogger Brooke said...

Don't you find it frightening that if free speech is being altered?

That if you say something that someone else doesn't like, they are ready to change the law to criminalize you?

This is legal jihad, and the left is too dumb to see it, or worse yet, they are actively participating!

At 11/13/2006 12:43 PM, Blogger Mark said...

Mr Ducky, I see that you are still spouting your venom and nonsense here on this most excellent forum. This time you say, "Why not venture out of your nest of paranoia into the world." I wonder if you would speak this way were you to be caught up in the next terror attack, say Twin Towers II? You really are the limit! Get real, for God's sake, Mr Ducky! Get real!

Now as to the advance of CAIR in the US after the mid-terms, I think this is a very troubling development indeed. You Americans have made a big deal about Europe morphing into Eurabia. At this juncture, I cannot help but ask myself which continent will morph first. Will it be America into Amerabia, or Europe into Eurabia?

The way things are going in the States, post the mid-terms, all bets are off!

That Keith Ellison guy is very disturbing. And for many reasons. One of them being the fact that it is very noticeable that he has not adopted an Islamic name. He is not Muhammad Ellison, or Abdullah Ellison, but still Keith Ellison. No doubt this was a conscious decision on his part, so as not to hamper his political career. After all, the voters would ask questions before voting for an Abdullah Ellison; but I dare say that many voters were unaware of the fact that Keith Ellison was a Muslim at all! How disingenuous on Keith Ellison's part!

It won't be long now before an American president will be saying Allah bless America!

At 11/13/2006 1:10 PM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

Why is Ellison disturbing. Have you ever heard him speak?

Of course you haven't. What did you do .... get for info from a pimp like Robert Spencer who's making his living catering to bigots?

I heard him on Al franken's show and was struck that he had an articulate informal speaking style and spoke a lot of common sense. I heard nothing frightening and neither did the voters in Minnesota, a very common sense state that isn't swayed by bigoted crap unlike some other segments of the population.

At 11/13/2006 1:43 PM, Blogger The Merry Widow said...

He's also from Dearbornistan.
But then, plucky is breathing fumes, not air.
Nanc & AoW- I'll bring a crowbar!


At 11/13/2006 1:59 PM, Blogger Mark said...

Mr Ducky:

Why is Ellison disturbing. Have you ever heard him speak?

Of course you haven't.

How the hell do you know whether or not I have heard him speak? You presume one hell of a lot, Ducky!

What did you do .... get for info from a pimp like Robert Spencer who's making his living catering to bigots?

As it happens, I did NOT get my info from Robert Spencer's website. I got it straight from Keith Ellison's own website!

By the way, I am sure that Robert would be enchanted to know that you had called him a "pimp" who is making his living from "bigots"! You really are the giddy limit!

I heard him on Al franken's show and was struck that he had an articulate informal speaking style and spoke a lot of common sense.

Having "an articulate informal" speaking style has absolutely NOTHING to do with it. One can speak in such a manner, but have malign intentons. Give me a man who speaks formally, but who speaks sense, any day of the week. At least one knows where one stands then.

If he is a good Muslim, and most converts (reverts) are, then he will one day wish to introduce Shari'ah law to the US of A. Then you'll be in sh** street!

You need to start reading up on the history of Islam, and the intentions of Muslms, my dear man. You really are badly informed! It is people like you who endanger the very soul of your country, endangering it to turn from the 'Land of the Free' to the 'Land of the Unfree'! And in short order.

At 11/13/2006 2:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


Lets see your constant references to the Shoa are proof of your own bigotry. About those artilery shells you seem to leave out the part about Pseudostinian rockets with plactic ball bearing laces with rat poison.

Lets see the Duck seems to forget that. He seems to forget the women who died in the crossfire in Gaza were summoned by the whimps of Jihad. Sorry Ducky but this is getting old. I suppose Hue never happened, Misquito indians massacred with helicopters and Pseudostinian mercenaries never happened and hundreds dead in NVA flame thrower attacks on Hmong women and children was an exageration. Sorry there Duck you have a credibility problem.

You will enjoy the food in GITMO.

At 11/14/2006 1:47 AM, Blogger Kiddo said...

Sorry Ducky, Conyers' proposal is absurd. Read it. It would stifle freedom of pretty much any religious studies department and the work of most scholars in this country, it is completely unAmerican, and it would destroy any attempts at honest analysis of the Quran from a non-Muslim standpoint. The encroachment is happening, AOW is quite right.

We are not paranoid, we are realists. The Quran is blasphemous to my religion and just about every other on the planet, including those who choose to have no religion. Also, I have this thing about protection of the rights of expression, women, and gays, and oddly enough, Muslims tend to want people who speak their minds on those issues strung up by cranes. Yes, I know the Bible has some pronouncements condemning many of this as well, but even anti-gay Christians aren't actually killing or advocating killing gays here in the US, and they'd be stopped if they did. Muslims use fear like the mafia. They'd attack those groups they think it is righteous to, and then melt back into their own groups.

And don't come back with the lone nuts like Rudolph, either. He's not supported in his beliefs and the extreme he took them to by over a billion people. Big difference. Study of Muslim theology and freedom to keep doing so are imperative, and I can't believe that anyone would even think that's up for debate.

At 11/14/2006 11:58 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Conyers ought to read the Holy Koran he seeks to "protect" in the name of religious freedom and American Rights in House Res 288.

It reads like a advocacy document justifying Hate Crimes against ALL other people of faith.

As long as he's at it... he ought to enshrine the KKK's Charter as well.

What a crock!

At 11/15/2006 11:41 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Conyers is an idiot. This is one dangerous lunatic liberal.

As for Ellison, CAIR can go on denying it, but they endorsed the shit out of him.

As for anyone who uses valuable time to listen to Al Franken....jeez, don't get me started.

At 11/15/2006 2:20 PM, Blogger American Crusader said...

HR 288 is a nonbinding resolution but it's just the start.
Nothing would please CAIR more than to see the US take the same position as Britain has. Passing a law to criminalize criticism of Islam. Under the guise of "inciting religious hatred",
the law has stifled open and fair debate.

At 11/18/2006 8:50 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Mohammed could found a cult based upon the worship of a twelve inch diameter meteorite, just think what you could do with this:

Now I know that size isn't everything (as Mohammend said to 9 year old Ayesha) , but this place in Namibia is at least as good and probably several times more powerful than Mecca for rock-worshippers. With the right marketing it should be able to attract 10 million towel-headed tourists a year.

At 11/19/2006 6:27 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Maybe a second Meccan will grow up around another ROCK!

Ever year, at Hajj time, my husband and I cannot believe our eyes as we hear of the riots over getting close to a ROCK. Primitives!

Of course, MTP used the ROCK to satisfy the Arab tribes' desire to worship idols. He managed to unify them by having the tribes circle that meteorite back in the 7th Century. That tech-savvy Muslims still bow down to a ROCK never ceases to amaze me and just goes to show that Islam is a cult.

At 11/24/2006 10:44 AM, Blogger Kiddo said...

LOL....I am coming up on my 1st anniversary as a blogger actually, and one of my 1st pieces was about the annual Hajj stampede. It will be nice to report on yet another year's death toll over such a tradition. Is "innovation" in Islam really so taboo as to not include SOME kind of crowd control? Honestly!

At 11/24/2006 6:06 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Pim's Ghost,
The death cult glories in those stampedes, IMO.

I remember that early posting of yours on the Hajj. As I recall, the Grand Imam mentioned something like, "Nothing we could do about the stampede. It was the will of Allah."

Same old refrain! The Grand Imam's needle is stuck.


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