Sunday, May 21, 2006

Saudi Textbooks

As I mentioned before, I'm overwhelmed right now. In fact, I'm not able even to read the daily paper from cover to cover. But thanks to an email heads-up from one of my homeschool parents, a new article about the matter of Saudi textbooks has been brought to my attention.

The following article, "This is a Saudi textbook (After the intolerance was removed.)," appeared in the May 21, 2006 edition of the Washington Post and is reproduced below in its entirety, with links enabled from the Washington Post web site:
Saudi Arabia's public schools have long been cited for demonizing the West as well as Christians, Jews and other "unbelievers." But after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001 -- in which 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis -- that was all supposed to change.

A 2004 Saudi royal study group recognized the need for reform after finding that the kingdom's religious studies curriculum "encourages violence toward others, and misguides the pupils into believing that in order to safeguard their own religion, they must violently repress and even physically eliminate the 'other.' " Since then, the Saudi government has claimed repeatedly that it has revised its educational texts.

Prince Turki al-Faisal, the Saudi ambassador to the United States, has worked aggressively to spread this message. "The kingdom has reviewed all of its education practices and materials, and has removed any element that is inconsistent with the needs of a modern education," he said on a recent speaking tour to several U.S. cities. "Not only have we eliminated what might be perceived as intolerance from old textbooks that were in our system, we have implemented a comprehensive internal revision and modernization plan." The Saudi government even took out a full-page ad in the New Republic last December to tout its success at "having modernized our school curricula to better prepare our children for the challenges of tomorrow." A year ago, an embassy spokesman declared: "We have reviewed our educational curriculums. We have removed materials that are inciteful or intolerant towards people of other faiths." The embassy is also distributing a 74-page review on curriculum reform to show that the textbooks have been moderated.

The problem is: These claims are not true.

A review of a sample of official Saudi textbooks for Islamic studies used during the current academic year reveals that, despite the Saudi government's statements to the contrary, an ideology of hatred toward Christians and Jews and Muslims who do not follow Wahhabi doctrine remains in this area of the public school system. The texts teach a dualistic vision, dividing the world into true believers of Islam (the "monotheists") and unbelievers (the "polytheists" and "infidels").

This indoctrination begins in a first-grade text and is reinforced and expanded each year, culminating in a 12th-grade text instructing students that their religious obligation includes waging jihad against the infidel to "spread the faith."

Freedom House knows this because Ali al-Ahmed, a Saudi dissident who runs the Washington-based Institute for Gulf Affairs, gave us a dozen of the current, purportedly cleaned-up Saudi Ministry of Education religion textbooks. The copies he obtained were not provided by the government, but by teachers, administrators and families with children in Saudi schools, who slipped them out one by one.

Some of our sources are Shiites and Sunnis from non-Wahhabi traditions -- people condemned as "polytheistic" or "deviant" or "bad" in these texts -- others are simply frustrated that these books do so little to prepare young students for the modern world.

We then had the texts translated separately by two independent, fluent Arabic speakers.

Religion is the foundation of the Saudi state's political ideology; it is also a key area of Saudi education in which students are taught the interpretation of Islam known as Wahhabism (a movement founded 250 years ago by Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab) that is reflected in these textbooks.

Scholars estimate that within the Saudi public school curriculum, Islamic studies make up a quarter to a third of students' weekly classroom hours in lower and middle school, plus several hours each week in high school. Educators who question or dissent from the official interpretation of Islam can face severe reprisals. In November 2005, a Saudi teacher who made positive statements about Jews and the New Testament was fired and sentenced to 750 lashes and a prison term. (He was eventually pardoned after public and international protests.)

The Saudi public school system totals 25,000 schools, educating about 5 million students. In addition, Saudi Arabia runs academies in 19 world capitals, including one outside Washington in Fairfax County, that use some of these same religious texts.

Saudi Arabia also distributes its religion texts worldwide to numerous Islamic schools and madrassas that it does not directly operate. Undeterred by Wahhabism's historically fringe status, Saudi Arabia is trying to assert itself as the world's authoritative voice on Islam -- a sort of "Vatican" for Islam, as several Saudi officials have stated-- and these textbooks are integral to this effort. As the report of the commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks observed, "Even in affluent countries, Saudi-funded Wahhabi schools are often the only Islamic schools" available.
Education is at the core of the debate over freedom in the Muslim world. Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden understands this well; in a recent audiotape he railed against those who would "interfere with school curricula."

The passages below -- drawn from the same set of Saudi texts proudly cited in the new 74-page review of curriculum reform now being distributed by the Saudi Embassy -- are shaping the views of the next generation of Saudis and Muslims worldwide. Unchanged, they will only harden and deepen hatred, intolerance and violence toward other faiths and cultures. Is this what Riyadh calls reform?


" Every religion other than Islam is false."

"Fill in the blanks with the appropriate words (Islam, hellfire): Every religion other than ______________ is false. Whoever dies outside of Islam enters ____________."


"True belief means . . . that you hate the polytheists and infidels but do not treat them unjustly."


"Whoever obeys the Prophet and accepts the oneness of God cannot maintain a loyal friendship with those who oppose God and His Prophet, even if they are his closest relatives."

"It is forbidden for a Muslim to be a loyal friend to someone who does not believe in God and His Prophet, or someone who fights the religion of Islam."

"A Muslim, even if he lives far away, is your brother in religion. Someone who opposes God, even if he is your brother by family tie, is your enemy in religion."


"Just as Muslims were successful in the past when they came together in a sincere endeavor to evict the Christian crusaders from Palestine, so will the Arabs and Muslims emerge victorious, God willing, against the Jews and their allies if they stand together and fight a true jihad for God, for this is within God's power."


"As cited in Ibn Abbas: The apes are Jews, the people of the Sabbath; while the swine are the Christians, the infidels of the communion of Jesus."

"God told His Prophet, Muhammad, about the Jews, who learned from parts of God's book [the Torah and the Gospels] that God alone is worthy of worship. Despite this, they espouse falsehood through idol-worship, soothsaying, and sorcery. In doing so, they obey the devil. They prefer the people of falsehood to the people of the truth out of envy and hostility. This earns them condemnation and is a warning to us not to do as they did."

"They are the Jews, whom God has cursed and with whom He is so angry that He will never again be satisfied [with them]."

"Some of the people of the Sabbath were punished by being turned into apes and swine. Some of them were made to worship the devil, and not God, through consecration, sacrifice, prayer, appeals for help, and other types of worship. Some of the Jews worship the devil. Likewise, some members of this nation worship the devil, and not God."

"Activity: The student writes a composition on the danger of imitating the infidels."


"The clash between this [Muslim] community (umma) and the Jews and Christians has endured, and it will continue as long as God wills."

"It is part of God's wisdom that the struggle between the Muslim and the Jews should continue until the hour [of judgment]."

"Muslims will triumph because they are right. He who is right is always victorious, even if most people are against him."


The 10th-grade text on jurisprudence teaches that life for non-Muslims (as well as women, and, by implication, slaves) is worth a fraction of that of a "free Muslim male." Blood money is retribution paid to the victim or the victim's heirs for murder or injury:

"Blood money for a free infidel. [Its quantity] is half of the blood money for a male Muslim, whether or not he is 'of the book' or not 'of the book' (such as a pagan, Zoroastrian, etc.).

"Blood money for a woman: Half of the blood money for a man, in accordance with his religion. The blood money for a Muslim woman is half of the blood money for a male Muslim, and the blood money for an infidel woman is half of the blood money for a male infidel."


"The greeting 'Peace be upon you' is specifically for believers. It cannot be said to others."

"If one comes to a place where there is a mixture of Muslims and infidels, one should offer a greeting intended for the Muslims."

"Do not yield to them [Christians and Jews] on a narrow road out of honor and respect."


"Jihad in the path of God -- which consists of battling against unbelief, oppression, injustice, and those who perpetrate it -- is the summit of Islam. This religion arose through jihad and through jihad was its banner raised high. It is one of the noblest acts, which brings one closer to God, and one of the most magnificent acts of obedience to God."

Nina Shea is director of the Center for Religious Freedom at Freedom House.


At 5/21/2006 7:25 PM, Blogger Kender said...


Imagine, Muslims lying about something like that...I simply don't believe it!!!!
( end sarcasm )

At 5/21/2006 7:27 PM, Blogger Cubed © said...

NOW will they believe us?

This is the sort of information that should be read by every parent, every teacher, and every student. We ALL simply must be aware of what we are up against, and what we will face generation after generation after generation.

Outrageous - but then, we knew that!

Let's pass it on! I haven't been to Jihadwatch for the last few days, but it looks like something Spencer might publish, if he hasn't already...

At 5/21/2006 7:33 PM, Anonymous religion of pieces said...

If you were to take the hatred and the lies out of Islam, you would find there was nothing remaining

At 5/21/2006 7:44 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

I've already notified Robert Spencer. I'm way behind in keeping up with things right now, as I've previously explained, but my brain is working well enough to get the word out on a topic as important as this one.

Will Ibrahim Hooper of CAIR be making rounds to defend ISA? He usually does.

At 5/21/2006 8:49 PM, Blogger Esther said...

I wish I could say I'm surprised, but I'm guessing anyone who reads your site with any regularity feels the same way. Will this make any difference? I fear people see what they want to see and nothing more. :(

At 5/21/2006 9:05 PM, Blogger beakerkin said...


These quotes are hardly surprising and the left as usual glosses over this. No doubt the use of the N word in passing in Huck Finn has caused some schools to take the book out of its libraries. The Canterbury tales contain some strident anti Semitic content but I read tham in a Yeshiva.

The left is selective about what books to ban from libraries. I wonder if the same libraries that ban Huck Finn also ban the Emperor Jones. The N word is used twenty plus times in a role written for Commie traitor Paul Robeson.

At 5/21/2006 9:50 PM, Blogger Brooke said...

Huh. State-sponsored jihad from a nation where it is illegal to even posess a Bible.

What a surprise.

At 5/21/2006 9:56 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Did you check the location of ISA? It's right here, a short distance from Washington, D.C. ISA graduated convicted aspiring Presidential assassin and anti-Semite Ahmed Abu Ali. Want to take a guess as to where he learned his hate? He didn't have to travel to Saudi to get his ideas.

My point: These Saudi textbooks are in use in Islamic schools all over the United States.

At 5/21/2006 10:14 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Will this make any difference?

Well, having the info appear in the Sunday WaPo is a step in the right direction.

Do you know which Senator is on top of the situation with ISA? Senator Charles Schumer of NY.

At 5/21/2006 11:20 PM, Blogger Mike's America said...

Freedom House has really been doing the Lord's work here. And I am glad to see the story finally getting out in the lamestream media. But we are still a very long way from effectively confronting the issue.

At 5/22/2006 12:20 AM, Blogger nanc said...

this should be frightening for parents of EVERY public schooled child. some parents send their kids off to school to get them out of their hair and it's a 7-9 hour free babysitter and they could care less.

when i take my kids to the busstop - i pray to God to protect them in the battleground i've just sent them into. God help us all.

At 5/22/2006 1:16 AM, Blogger MonicaR said...

God help us all indeed.

This is very valuable information. Thank you AOW. Hope you don't mind if I post it and link to you.

The Saudis just love to lie, don't they? They lie and lie without even batting an eyelid about it.

At 5/22/2006 7:40 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

The material cited is used in public schools in Saudi Arabia and in certain private schools here in the United States. From the WaPo article: Saudi Arabia runs academies in 19 world capitals, including one outside Washington in Fairfax County, that use some of these same religious texts. According to some sources, the world maps on the walls of the Saudi-owned schools right here in the United States don't even show the existence of Israel? Such a map makes a clear statement, IMO, and predisposes the students to hating Israel.

There is also the matter of Susan Douglass, who has written for the Council on Islamic Education, which publishes a curriculum guide which has been used here in the United States, specifically in California and possible elsewhere. In fact, the CIE guide is present in the Fairfax County Public Library and in other public libraries as well. According to the guide, Muslim students must not be offended in our public schools. That sounds fine in theory, until one delves into the details.

Have you checked your children's social-studies books? Susan Douglass serves as curriculum advisor to most of the major publishers for American social-studies textbooks.

This material should be read by every concerned parent of schoolchildren here in the United States. Read it now! And every parent should check to see just what's going on in social studies classes. For example, in Herndon, VA, during Ramadan students in fifth grade were required to recite the five pillars of Islam; but according to Islam, once those words are uttered, one IS a Muslim, regardless of any rote or lack of understanding. And once Muslim, always Muslim--according to Islam. Remember the case of Abdul Rahman in Afghanistan?

I've seen some of the enrichment activities in the textbooks: role-playing ("Pretend you are a Palestinian who has lost his country. How do you feel?").

Be sure to read the link I've posted in this comment. Not to be missed!

At 5/22/2006 7:41 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Monica R,
Take whatever you need from my site. Distribute it. Alert your homeschool network. Check any social-studies textbooks used for subtle statements. See the link I posted above in my comment to Nanc.

At 5/22/2006 7:42 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Mike's America,
I am glad to see the story finally getting out in the lamestream media.

And in the Sunday WaPo too! That particular edition is widely read.

At 5/22/2006 7:56 AM, Blogger Mark said...

Surely we can't say we are surprised, can we? We all know that Saudis (nay Muslims) are given to lying to defend and further their faith.

Hatred of infidels will continue in the Muslim world in general, and in Saudi Arabia in particular, for as long as Islam is thier religion, Allah, their god, and Muhammad, their prophet.

Officially, the king of Saudi Arabia is the Keeper of the Two Holy Mosques; so officially, he is also the head of the faith in the way that the Pope is the Head of the Roman Catholic faith. The difference is that many, many Muslims don't feel that the king of SA is the rightful Keeper of those Holy Mosques. As you know, the Al-Saud dynasty is criticized greatly among the very religious and devout for leading similar profligate lives as rich infidels. Therefore, they hardly command much respect.

Ironically, the devout Wahhabis have kept, and are still keeping, the Saudi Royal Family in power. There's an unwritten agreement between them and the king: an 'I'll scratch your back if you'll scratch mine' sort of deal.

Knowing this, it is hardly likely that much will change in their education system.

In any case, as we all know, Islam is, by definition, supremacist and élitist.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose!

At 5/22/2006 8:30 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Officially, the king of Saudi Arabia is the Keeper of the Two Holy Mosques; so officially, he is also the head of the faith in the way that the Pope is the Head of the Roman Catholic faith.

Now, there's something we don't hear in the msm!

And in my mind's eye, I keep seeing GWB's greeting to the Saudi prince last summer at the Crawford Ranch. Paying homage to oil?

Hatred of infidels will continue in the Muslim world in general, and in Saudi Arabia in particular, for as long as Islam is thier religion, Allah, their god, and Muhammad, their prophet.

Too many just don't understand the differences between the Meccan and the Medinan verses. The former are quoted over and over again by Islamophiles and apologists, but the Medinan verses were the later "revelation." Not enough were converting, so MTP changed his tune and tone.

Mark, I wish that more people would read your book, which really lays out what Islam is! The essay format is reader-friendly, and you use the Koran itself to make your points.

At 5/22/2006 8:33 AM, Blogger kev said...

As I've said before, how can decent, even semi-intelligent people, defend this way of life? One would think that leftists, of all people, would be entirely against them, given the proclivity toward violence, their disrespect for women, and their zeal for religion, all things leftists claim to be against. But then, like all leftist principles, they're flexible and dependent upon whom, what, where, when why, what's in it for us, etc.

At 5/22/2006 8:34 AM, Blogger kev said...

I'm surprised daffy hasn't yet checked in on this.

At 5/22/2006 8:43 AM, Blogger nanc said...

that is a very good link, aow - our oldest wants to be homeschooled next year, but the little social flutterby wants to remain in public school. she's a force too - wouldn't go along at all with evolution/darwinism when it was being taught, so butted heads with the teacher to the end of the year a couple of years ago. she was just shy of 4.0 gpa for that entire year.

i love children who are not afraid of being hated. they're the best kind. no appeasement there.

morning everybody.

At 5/22/2006 9:01 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Tell your children to stand strong--hard to do, especially if peer pressure is exerted. But I've know a few who are strong enough to withstand all the pressures. Those few had the best kind of support at home.

At 5/22/2006 9:39 AM, Anonymous the merry widow said...

I love homeschooling!
I love leaving Ca!
I love homeschooling!
I love leaving Ca!
Oh, good morning, just practicing my morning mantra! Cheers me up no matter what is going on in the world!
Did you read about the 2 mentally challenged types(ME) that boarded a school bus in Tampa? The judge was smart enough to revoke thier bail. One was wearing shorts and a black trenchcoat in ~85 degree weather! Yeah...
I love homeschooling!


At 5/22/2006 10:35 AM, Blogger nanc said...

calm yourself, tmw - i know it's not normal to wear anything under a trench coat, but that's no reason to call them mentally challenged...

At 5/22/2006 11:21 AM, Anonymous the merry widow said...

Nanc, I should have said, colorblind and inept! I'm sorry I agitated you! Your comments and feedback are essential to the smooth running of this automated service, thank you.


At 5/22/2006 11:34 AM, Blogger Mike's America said...

AOW: Since you are overwhelmed, why not do some short links to other blog posts.

I recommend The Further Adventures of Indigo Red:

He posts on the story that Google has removed the New Media Journal from it's results after complaints by Islamo-Nazis.

Indigo posts three examples of the "hate speech" that may have been part of Googles decision. Each one is a slam dunk on the problem we face and the views expressed are widely held. What's next? Google censoring all of us who take this problem seriously?

At 5/22/2006 11:47 AM, Blogger nanc said...

tmw - i'm not agitated - that would give me "shaken adult syndrome" in which case i would CAPITALIZE EVERYTHING! morning to you.

At 5/22/2006 12:08 PM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

A very intense fundamentalist hatred, too be sure. Of course hate sites like Jason Pappas's aren't indulging in the same sort of blather.

Have at it folks. This seems to be your goal, a good game of idiot's delight.

At 5/22/2006 12:50 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Posting links or photos was my original intention when I announced my being overwhelmed. But I simply can't ignore certain stories.

I'll check out that link.

At 5/22/2006 1:12 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

A very intense fundamentalist hatred...

We agree there.

The "idiot's delight" is asking just how much impact this teaching is having, right here in the United States.

And, of course, Saudi has deep pockets and extends curricular influence in madrassahs around the world--as well as in numerous mosques, particularly those built since 1990. Quite a proliferation of such mosques.

If you choose to believe that a Wahhabist fifth column is not present and active, that's your mistake.

At 5/22/2006 1:15 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

TMW and Nanc,
About those fellows on the school bus...Remember Beslan?

What were those two men up to? Just a test of some kind?

At 5/22/2006 1:38 PM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

Remember Beslan?

Yes AOW, I think most people do. The question is whether we can see it in the larger historical context. Hatred has run high for a long time in that area.

Stalin wiped out about 75% of the Ingush and they barely survived. Still, in spite of that genocide (remember, Stalin made Hitler look like an amateur) all we are going to see in Chechnya is muslim atrocities.

Your complete inability to see history with a wide lens simply dilutes any reasonably point you have to make. Certainly you can define your context in any way you like but you really can't expect to be taken completely seriously when it is so narrow.

At 5/22/2006 2:40 PM, Anonymous the merry widow said...

AoW- JihadWatch has a couple of good posts about it! Breslan was on my mind, that's why I was chanting earlier! As for Ca. and thier "be a mohammadin" for a week was why I was doing that chant. Schools and school buses are very soft targets and people (most) get very upset when children are threatened! At least when they recognize the threat!


At 5/22/2006 2:40 PM, Blogger Mussolini said...

Connect the dots, Duck.

Muslim children have been schooled in hate and taught violence with training videos for muslim kids on how to be a good suicide bomber.

These kids grow up. This indoctrination has been going on for decades. Those early kids are adults.

There is no "idiot's delight" here. It is recognition of indoctrination. Ignoring it would be an "idiot's delight."

At 5/22/2006 3:08 PM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

I think that is true in much of Saudi Arabia, mussolini. But not in the entire muslim world.

It's a subtle process. I'll go back to an essay one of AOW's students wrote on media abuse. In that essay the only thing mentioned was the Tawana Brawley cse. I will continue to state that represents a narrow indoctrination that concerns me far more than what's happening in Saudi, because this indoctrination is taking place much closer to home.

At 5/22/2006 3:52 PM, Blogger Mussolini said...

Saudi Arabia is the primary funder of madrassahs and Islamic centers across the world.

You really think they're keeping their extremism strictly within the boundaries of Saudi Arabia?

Palestinian textbooks, for the last 25+ years, have taught "total global war against the West and all other religions" all funded by Saudi Arabia.

What other countries are seeing this hate spread through Saudi funding?

At 5/22/2006 3:58 PM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

That is absolutely tue, mussolini, but my point is that I am not going to define "hate" as muslim.

You merely have to read this site and wander off to Daniel Pipes or B'at Shite (or whatever her name is), read the ravings of Beamish to see the hate is widespread and these people don't seem to have the "meta layer" to understand their own shortcomings.

Right now it is indeed a game of idiot's delight.

At 5/22/2006 4:57 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

For those who might have missed the student essay to which Duck referred, it is here. The comparison is a reach, IMO. Interested commenters can make their own evaluation as to the danger posed by a student's choice of the Brawley case to support the thesis statement for a timed essay.

At 5/22/2006 4:58 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

What other countries are seeing this hate spread through Saudi funding?

Wahhabism isn't restricted to Saudi.

At 5/22/2006 4:59 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

I haven't been making very many regular rounds, so I haven't been reading JW of late.

At 5/22/2006 5:38 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

OT here, but I thought you'd be interested in this.

As I understand recent stats, Western Europeans are not reproducing at as rapid a rate as Muslim immigrants to those nations. Of course, many news articles have recently appeared about immigrants' reproduction rates here in the States, but I think that the focus has been the reproduction rate of Hispanics.

FYI, Bat Y'eor coined the term "Eurabia." There is her correct name for your future reference. I'm sure that you truly know her real name, but I want to be sure.

At 5/22/2006 5:58 PM, Anonymous religion of pieces said...


"The students are part of a new large-scale scholarship program by the Saudi government, which will send about 6,000 students to American universities this year after just 1,442 Saudi students had visas to study in the United States in 2004. "

And you can bet these students have all got A++ cum laude grades in Islamic Studies, and yet can't tell the difference between a school bus and a flying carpet to paradise.


At 5/22/2006 6:27 PM, Anonymous religion of pieces said...


Fill in the blanks with the appropriate words: Every religion other than ______________ is false. Whoever dies outside of Islam enters ____________."


Fill in the blanks with the appropriate words: Two million American children must be _________ to satisfy Allah's blood-lust. Those who _______ them will be rewarded with 72 ________

Hint -

Those who forget Beslan will be forced to remember it.

At 5/22/2006 7:32 PM, Blogger MissingLink said...

The most primeval, hate inciting book is the Holy Quran itself.

[2.63] And when We took a promise from you and lifted the mountain over you: Take hold of the law (Tavrat) We have given you with firmness and bear in mind what is in it, so that you may guard (against evil).
[2.64] Then you turned back after that; so were it not for the grace of Allah and His mercy on you, you would certainly have been among the losers.
[2.65] And certainly you have known those among you who exceeded the limits of the Sabbath, so We said to them: Be (as) apes, despised and hated.
[2.66] So We made them an example to those who witnessed it and those who came after it, and an admonition to those who guard (against evil).

(BTW Jews are children of apes and Christians are children if swine – sometimes people get confuse about it).
The rest is just a logical consequence of it and it is not just the Saudis who are involved in the dissemination of these peaceful messages but ALL those who have resources to do it.

It happens that the Saudis seem to have more of it at the present and therefore they are more visible than others.

It all goes back to the way the structure of funding of religious institution is organized under Islam.
And the truth is there is no system other than this: He who has the money controls what the mullahs say and preach.

The bottom line is the Quran cannot be changed and all who start teaching it seriously MUST come to the same conclusions: Children of Apes and Swine must be eradicated one way or another.
Sometimes people tend to blame so called Wahabism for all the ills deriving from Islam.


Wahabism does not teach anything else that other forms of Islam do not.
According to purist Suni followers there aren’t any kings, or otherwise secular rulers only religious ones (Caliphs are first and foremost religious rulers) entitled to control Muslims and definite there mustn’t be any ‘ruling houses’, heirs, family inheritance and so on.
Because of this the Wahabism is hated by pure Muslims (like OBL).

But of course Muslim apologists identify Osama with Wahabism, which is wrong.
Here are some examples taken from Pali textbooks (Funded mostly by Iranian Shias)

From a Palestinian history textbook:
"Asma, Abu Bakr’s daughter, was my age when she played a role in supplying provisions and water and passing information about Kuraish [Tribe] to the Prophet and his companion during their secret Hegira [emigration] from Mecca to Medina.
What role can I play in order to support the national resistance movement against the occupier and colonialist?"
[History of the Arabs and Muslims, sixth grade, p. 34]

Music lesson anyone?
Lyrics for a Palestinian school song:
"Shake the earth, raise the stones.
You will not be saved, Oh Zionist, from the volcano of my country’s stones,
You will not be saved, Oh Zionist, from the volcano of my country’s stones,
You are the target of my eyes, I will even willingly fall as a Shahid [Martyr for Allah].
You are the target of my eyes, I will even willingly fall as a Shahid.
Allah Akbar, Oh the young ones".

And check what they teach in Egypt (one of the Arab states supposedly on friendly terms with Israel).
Palestine (including Israel) is a part of Egypt according to Egyptian primary school textbooks;

At 5/22/2006 7:39 PM, Blogger City Troll said...

I wonder if the two that jumped that school bus were educated by those books

At 5/22/2006 8:36 PM, Blogger kevin said...

Keep it up Duck, the muhadjidenn need as many left-wing terror enablers as possible. They're counting on you and your ilk.

At 5/22/2006 8:48 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...


Just to let everyone know that I'll be swamped for the next few days with end-of-term matters. I'll check back when I can and will probably post another article before my Memorial Day posting; I've got the next article ready to go, pending proofing.


At 5/23/2006 3:46 AM, Anonymous religion of pieces said...

And it's not just the Saudi curriculum that's a problem. Coming soon to a school near you...

At 5/23/2006 7:00 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Robert Spencer's analysis of the WaPo article:

[L]ike all Freedom House material, this piece shies away from pointing out the deep Islamic roots of the material, and leads the reader to the impression that this is all something cooked up by the wicked Saudi Wahhabis, instead of a much broader problem within the Islamic umma.

Well, it would be very nice if that were true. But it isn't....

More at the above link.

At 5/23/2006 9:52 AM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

My, my an article about hate and someone posts a link to Michelle Malkin.

The irony is simply too delicious.

AOW, could you post more reviews from that hate fest with Daniel Pipes? I think you can figure this all out.

At 5/23/2006 10:34 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Daniel Pipes wasn't present at the Symposium--at least, as a speaker. I explained why my reviews have been delayed, but maybe you missed that posting. See this.

I think you can figure this all out.

Not in the way you have, though.

At 5/23/2006 3:32 PM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

Whomever was there AOW from your telling of that conference it wasn't a great deal different than the Saudi textbooks. It drums up hatred from islam but you just like your hatred with a nicer veneer.

That's how I see it. It's like your student trying to slap on a layer of reason in his Tawana Brawley essay. Put on as much veneer as you like but the core fact is that he wanted to slam Sharpton only.

Just as you want to seal the border with Mexico as a defensive measure when in fact Canada presents a much more likely point of infiltration. I have to believe that you aren't thinking clearly or what is driving you is something entirely different.

The Saudi textbooks are just crude. They aren't any different than our own hatreds. My bigotry towards Southern protestants. I know it's there .

At 5/23/2006 5:00 PM, Blogger Gayle said...

Here we have another liberal Troll or Shill trying to muddle the waters talking about the border issue when that's not what your post was about.

They are all so transparent!

Thank you for posting that, AOW. It's important stuff.

Pretty weird that Mr. Duck here doesn't understand the difference between Saudis teaching their children to kill infidels in the name of religion, and Christian conservatives not appreciating Muslims for that very fact, isn't it? But what's one to do? Dope does take it's toll, especially over the long term.

At 5/23/2006 7:30 PM, Anonymous religion of pieces said...


"Jihad in the path of God -- which consists of battling against unbelief, oppression, injustice, and those who perpetrate it -- is the summit of Islam. This religion arose through jihad and through jihad was its banner raised high. It is one of the noblest acts, which brings one closer to God, and one of the most magnificent acts of obedience to God."

Satanic crap!!! Unbelief, oppression and injustice only happen to Muslim victims. Everyone else is justly deserving of allah's wrath.

Would translators kindly refrain from translating the Arabic 'allah' as the Judeo-Christian 'GOD'. They are not equivalent terms.

At 5/23/2006 8:38 PM, Blogger conservativekat said...


At 5/23/2006 9:15 PM, Blogger unaha-closp said...


No one cares if you dislike or adore Southern Christians, just as long as you aren't doing anything harmful to express your hate or your love. If however you were to ship 10,000 books calling Southern Christians sub-human to yankee schoolchildren you might find yourself in difficulty.

At 5/23/2006 11:22 PM, Blogger Mad Zionist said...

Islam is a terrorist organization and should be criminalized as such.
No, not a "few bad moslem apples", not "moslem Extremists", not "Radical islam", just islam, period. It is a gutter religion of murder, slavery and bigotry.

At 5/24/2006 2:19 AM, Blogger Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

What about the pre-school indoctrination about using a rock and a left hand to wipe their asses as Muhammad did?

At 5/24/2006 6:52 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Christianity teaches that Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. And Christians spread the Gospel--the Good News--by means of preaching. The following shows the contrast:

"This religion arose through jihad and through jihad was its banner raised high. It is one of the noblest acts..."

So, while Christians spread the Word, they don't advocate genocide nor do they label those who are not Christians as monkey and pigs. Rather, Christians pray for their enemies.

It's one thing to preach that any religion is the one true way and quite another to wage brutal war until all the world has converted to Christianity.

Big difference! And the contrast between the lives and teachings of MTP and Jesus is a stark one.

At 5/24/2006 9:07 AM, Blogger Mussolini said...

Ducky, assigning "hate" to our repsonses is as silly as assigning hate to Mother Theresa.

By attributing "hate" to our revulsion and rejection of muslims murdering children, you attempt to demean and stifle debate.

Where is honesty? Where is digust? Where is disdain for a system that teaches murdering children is holy? Are we so pathetic that we are not allowed to express moral outrage?

Rejecting and fighting Islam for its consistent doctrines of murder is not "hate," but a civic duty to all reasoning and thinking citizens of this world.

At 5/24/2006 9:41 AM, Blogger Mark said...


Too many just don't understand the differences between the Meccan and the Medinan verses. The former are quoted over and over again by Islamophiles and apologists, but the Medinan verses were the later "revelation." Not enough were converting, so MTP changed his tune and tone.

Mark, I wish that more people would read your book, which really lays out what Islam is! The essay format is reader-friendly, and you use the Koran itself to make your points.

I'm so sorry it has taken me so long to reply to your response. As you know, I am under some pressure here (and have been for about seven weeks now); so my responses can be somewhat tardy. Again, I'm sorry.

People generally don't understand the differences between the Meccan and Medinan verses. That's the problem. When GWB calls Islam a 'religion of love' he refers to one without counterbalancing his views with the other. This is a great pity, because it makes him look foolish and gullible.

It is not 'fashionable' these days to criticize another for his culture, as we all know. This, too, is a pity, because we have Islam knocking on our door, only ready and willing and eager to take over. Without knowing the proper nature of Islam, and, it has to be said, being willing to recognize what's happening, and being willing to take the necessary steps to thwart its advance, we're all going to be in dire straights.

Notice how ready the other side are to criticize our culture. Strange, isn't it?

By the way, Always, thank you for being so complimentary about my book. I appreciate your kind words greatly.

At 5/24/2006 9:42 AM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

mussolini, the "muslims murdering children" was an isolated incident. There is no reason to put more emphasis on that than on the thumper cooze in Texas who drowned her kids.

Where is honesty? I don't know but I do know you are not qualified to speak of "consistent doctrines" in Islam.

At 5/24/2006 11:18 AM, Anonymous the merry widow said...

Ducky, did you know that in England there is a law that reduces culpability in the case of a woman suffering from post-parteum depression? She had been suffering under that and clinical depression for years! The fact that her church and her husband both advocated prayer alone and having many children. I know because a friend of mine went to a church like that when she has bi-polar syndrome. Do you have any idea how much havoc was perpetuated by that? I believe in prayer, but we live in fallen bodies in a fallen world and we need to be realistic. Besides that case was isolated, while the arabs in Gaza are teaching thier children in school and home to kill as many Israelis as possible! Such as that woman who was running as a representative, whose 3 sons were slodeydopes! Sorry, no equivalancy here!


At 5/24/2006 11:59 AM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

Well let's try another, merry widow.

How about the marines who acted like rabid animals and gunned down unarmed Iraqi civilians and covered it up.

Now I'd be curious how mustang and g would handle this. Would they take the reasonable position and admit that some marines are simply rabid dogs? I say that's the case and there is no reason not to look at islam the same way.

However, what I will get from the rabid right is an elaborate house of cards to defend their prejudice and fuzzy thinking.

At 5/24/2006 12:08 PM, Anonymous the merry widow said...

If you are talking about Fallujah, that so called "ranger" has been proven a liar, also with all those imbedded journalists do you really believe something that big wouldn't have come out with video? Come on all the news has is naked prisoners!
BTW-The Army says they don't have any records of said "ranger", oh and where are his fellows who were there? Someone would have been sickened enough to tell! Hmm?


At 5/24/2006 12:36 PM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

No, I'm talking about Haditha and the fact that you don't know about it says a great deal about our "liberal" media (LMFAO) and your suitability as an "objective" mind.

At 5/24/2006 1:11 PM, Blogger Mussolini said...

"An" isolated incident?

You really don't follow the news, do you Ducky?

In one 12 month period:

* Muslims murdered Russian children
* Muslims murdered Indian children
* Muslims murdered Indonesian children
* Muslims murdered Israeli children
* Muslims murdered Thai children
* Muslims murdered Sudanese children
* Muslims murdered Ethiopian children
* Muslims murdered Lebanese Christian children
* Muslims murdered Nigerian children
* Muslims murdered Scottish children

Seems to me your willfull ignorance makes you distinctly unqualified to disdain our revulsion to islamic murder.

Ducky, you're losing on this one. The preponderance of the evidence and history is against you.

At 5/24/2006 2:13 PM, Anonymous the merry widow said...

Well said Mussolini!


At 5/24/2006 2:42 PM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

Now let's see.

Beslan, yes we are all familiar with that. You act as if it were the only outrage in the war in Chechnya. No civilians have been killed by Russian troops in that one?
Bore me later. Really don't be a damn fool.

Indian children. I'm really shocked to find that atrocities were committed in Kashmir. I'd be less shocked to find out you believe Hindus haven't committed them also. It's a civil war, mussolini. People die.

Murdered Israeli children? You aren't publishing any stories of the brave IDF firing into classrooms and killing children? That has happened a couple times in the last six months. Possibly you the Israelis were firing into schools that harbored dangerous terrorists? Again, it's a freaking war. people die. The fact that some of the dead are on the side you favor means nothing.

Christian World News isn't much of a news source for Nigeria. Pat Robertson was piping a lot of that tripe while he was running a gold and diamond operation with Charles Taylor in Liberia. Don't tell me the thumper hands are clean in Africa. You've also got that moron running the Lords Liberation Army in Congo who wants a country based on the Ten Commandments.

Then we have Darfur and although muslims are dying in Darfur, killed by the government you want to see it as strictly a muslim on christian violence. There is far from concensus on that. It is more a matter of farmers and herders clashing because climate change has threatened livlihoods.

Go ahead and look at history through blinders if you like. You look at a world that's at war and you've decided that there is one single explanation for the horrors everywhere. That's absolutely brainless and really, i do give you more credit.

At 5/24/2006 3:05 PM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

I will say mussolini that the Indonesion beheadings were brutal and that was the event I was contrasting with the killings by religious maniacs in Texas (there was more than just Andrea yates, a few others were hearing voices).

Now there was an immediate defense of Yates but no acceptance that the muslims could have been essentially insane. You are immediately content to just tag it as "muslim" and move on. Not very rigorous.

At 5/24/2006 4:08 PM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

Can I get someone to state why with dozens of groups operating in Checnya, hundreds of atrocities, thousand upon thousand dead ... the only incident you think is worth noting is Beslan?

At 5/24/2006 5:38 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

mr. ducky doesn't have children so he doesn't understand the worry of parents. He has only his moral equivalence to leave to the world when he dies instead of descendants. He feels so sorry that all us poor stupid fools don't understand that islam is no worse or better than any of the rest. mr. ducky hasn't read the Hadiths of Bukhari or the Sirah, the biography of Mohammed by Ibn Ishaq so he can pontificate in sublime ignorance.

At 5/24/2006 5:57 PM, Anonymous religion of pieces said...

Ducky, all these wars you mention, and a few others you don't, such as southern Thailand and the Phillipines, have one thing in common. Obviously there are two sides fighting, but one side is always Methodist.

Odd isn't it, that wherever there's trouble in the world, the name of John Wesley always turns up?

Wesleyanism has bloody borders. But of course the Methodists aren't necessarily the instigators of the violence. It could be that everyone else victimises them.

That's it! There's a massive worldwide anti-Methodist conspiracy! And who do you think is behind it?

The Quakers of course!

At 5/24/2006 7:28 PM, Blogger Mussolini said...

(snort) Touche.

At 5/25/2006 9:35 AM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

mussolini, you accept that level of reasoning. You shame yourself.

One side in the fight is muslim and therefore the fight occurs because they are muslim.

Bore me later. Do you accept that level of stupidity?

At 5/25/2006 9:50 AM, Blogger Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Damn, Ducky. There was a brief period when I could measure the difference between your meager intellect and LoBrow's (of Savage Justice) lack of intellect. For a time, he was out-leftisting even you.

Not anymore. You're a full fledged reality denier now.

At 5/25/2006 9:59 AM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

Now mussolini let's look at the Philippines. There has been a Moror (muslim) resistence since Spanish occupation in 1280.

Is there any reason the current situation shouldn't be seen in continuity? Exactly when did the Moro become the agressor and how.

Now remember, we occupied the Philippines and committed atrocities against the Moro so I would simply ask you or FreedomNow or Beamish to explain why we should take the descriptive variable of the Moro's Islamic identity and attribute causation to it alone.

Let me know. I doubt you can come up with much but the exercise may educate you.

At 5/25/2006 10:21 AM, Anonymous religion of pieces said...

"There has been a Moror (muslim) resistence since Spanish occupation in 1280."

1280 ???

At 5/25/2006 10:29 AM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

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At 5/25/2006 10:33 AM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

Ok 1280 was the muslim migration. The Spanish weren't long after that. 150 years or so. Point is the conflict has been going on for a long time.

Plus a lot of the resistence attributed to muslims is a continuation of the Huk rebellion of the 1940's.

At 5/26/2006 12:42 AM, Blogger OSONSFORLIBERTY said...


At 5/26/2006 5:37 AM, Blogger Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Back when America had an enlightened anti-terrorism policy, General "Blackjack" Pershing rounded up 50 Moro Island Muslim rebels who had been savagely attacking people. One by one, Pershing and his men executed them with bullets dipped in pork fat, dumped their bodies into pits filled with pig carcasses, and then slopped pig intestines on top of the bodies before filling in the mass grave with dirt. This they did, one at a time in full view of the other captive Muslim terrorists, until only one captured Muslim remained. He was released and told to inform the rest of the Muslim community that America had plenty of pig carcasses.

And the Moro Muslims stopped terrorizing people cold turkey.

Funny how that works.

At 5/26/2006 5:41 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

I remember that Pershing story. Worked well, huh?

O Sons For Liberty,
Thank you for providing the debunking information.

At 5/26/2006 6:16 PM, Blogger Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

General Pershing was a bad mofo.


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