Tuesday, October 17, 2006

Featured Comment

Yesterday Mark Alexander of A New Dark Age Is Dawning and author of The Dawning of a New Dark Age: A Collection of Essays on Islam, left the following comment here at Always On Watch:
As a non-American, but one who loves your country, four developments in America distress me. In particular, they are:

1. The growth of the power of organizations such as CAIR, and their closeness to the corridors of power there in Washington DC.

2. The growth in the number of black converts to Islam.

3. The growth in the number of Hispanics turning to Islam.

4. The unhampered financing of mosques, propagation centres, and Islamic faith schools by the Saudis.

There are many more things that make me feel uneasy, but it seems to me that if things go on as they are, then the US will become quite unrecognizable in the years ahead.
Further comments or additional concerns from readers here?

[Hat-tip to American Crusader for the idea of featuring a reader's comment. Crusader used to have "Comment of the Week" at his previous site.]

39 Comments:

At 10/17/2006 7:32 AM, Anonymous Seth said...

Mark is totally right.

Unfortunately, we are all at the mercy of the ignorance and/or political correctness of our political leadership, who neither learn from experience nor listen when their constituents point out their blunders.

After the feces hits the fan, those of us who can will simply have to look after ourselves and our friends/ loved ones sans any gov't protection, and kill as many Muslims as we have to kill to stay alive and avoid dhimmitude.

 
At 10/17/2006 7:50 AM, Blogger The Merry Widow said...

Seth- I believe there is a more treacherous and underhanded purpose to this. It is "allowed" to lessen the impact of Christianity in the public discourse. Secular humanists want to erase the influence of Christians everywhere! How better than to allow them to be drowned out by the shouts of maddened, demonically inspired disciples of mohammad? Not only drowned out, but harassed, intimidated and eventually beaten and killed? How long do you think it will take for American streets to run red? The Christians and observent Jews are all that's holding this country back from the long slide to Hell! How long can we do it? That's in G*D's economy, and HE does things as HE WILLS! But this country has made some decisions that have withdrawn G*D's Hand of protection, HE only protects as much as HE does because of our rather halfhearted support of Israel. When that ceases with the inrush of mohammadins and secular humanists, we are under HIS curse!

tmw

 
At 10/17/2006 8:01 AM, Blogger Ogre said...

And because of scared-cats hiding behind "freedom of religion," nothing at all will be done about this. Nothing. Look, Spain and France are already gone -- they are, for all practical purposes, Mulsim countries. It is only a matter of time before they openly wear headscarves in public office.

England is very close behind. Note the recent firing for wearing a tiny cross while permitting all sorts of Islamic garb. The U.S. is next. The terrorists are winning because our leaders are simply too scared to fight them. America will become a Muslim country within 20 years if something doesn't drastically change. Ironically, perhaps the only way to stop the change is for the Muslims themselves to commit more acts of terror on American soil.

 
At 10/17/2006 9:20 AM, Blogger WomanHonorThyself said...

Ogre is bang on...the BBC caters to Hizzzzzzzz bullies and so does our media..when the enemy is within AOW..there is no way to win........

 
At 10/17/2006 9:44 AM, Blogger Raven said...

Mark is correct and we need to get this out== spread the word and maybe our leaders will open their damn cloudy eyes. Even then not much will change, but at least we can say we tried.

 
At 10/17/2006 10:00 AM, Blogger American Crusader said...

Thanks for the hat tip. I've been thinking about restarting the Comment of the Week.
Raven said...but at least we can say we tried.
Is that good enough? We tried.. but hey it was too much.

I think Mark has reason to be concerned. The Republican Party has let many of us down. We controlled the House, the Senate and the Presidency yet we haven't even passed a serious Border Security Bill.
How many Republicans have been involved in scandals the past two years?
We are allowing Saudi Arabia to fund mosques here in America that teach Wahibist doctrine.
CAIR is a terrorist organization that our own government calls a civil rights organization. Our prisons are recruiting grounds for radical Muslims. We even allow the imans into the institutions.
Not recognizable in a few years? I don't recognize it now.

 
At 10/17/2006 4:21 PM, Blogger Steve Harkonnen said...

It becomes somewhat a bit of an embarrassment when someone from outside of our country cites the blooming obvious...that we are a nation of Dhimmis.

Regarding CAIR - I wrote to Ashcroft about the threat - I got no response. I wrote to Warner, our state Senator - canned response, alluding something to "our arab friends." I got a letter from Bob Goodlatte, my congressman. His response was rather interesting in that he wanted to know more about our findings on CAIR. I took the time to send it off, and got no response.

The amazing thing is, you've got a small handful of regular citizens that clearly identify a real threat. CAIR, as we all know, is spawned from Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad. Proof, blinding proof of that, and to further exasperate the situation, some CAIR employees have already been arrested for aiding and abetting in terrorism.

The burning question, and it should be burning in each and every single mind that reads this - WHEN IS CAIR GOING TO GET SHUT DOWN, and WILL IT COME FROM AN IMPATIENT CITIZEN?

The wheels of justice turn far too slow. Something must be done - and done SOON.

 
At 10/17/2006 4:24 PM, Blogger Steve Harkonnen said...

Was just wondering something.

What does it take to get access to the Senate as a guest speaker?

 
At 10/17/2006 6:44 PM, Blogger nanc said...

steve - mess with an underage page?

 
At 10/17/2006 7:26 PM, Blogger Gayle said...

LOL Nanc... that'll do it! :)

I agree with Steve that it is rather embarassing to have someone from outside the country point out the obvious.

I'm not really concerned for myself, but I am deathly afraid for my children and their decendants! I hope we can turn things around, but we are fought at every front! It's extremely discouraging, to say the least.

I am at the point where I wish Bush would declare Marshal Law, but I don't see it happening.

We have traitors at every turn, and nothing is done about them. What does one have to do to be considered a traitor these days? There was a time in this country when a newspaper ('scuse me... liberal rag) like the NYT's would have been prosecuted for leaking stuff that threatens national security, but no more. It is already an America that I don't recognize.

 
At 10/17/2006 9:45 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Steve,
What does it take to get access to the Senate as a guest speaker?

Good question. I'm guessing that a Senator and/or a committe would have to sponsor something like that. But I don't know for sure.

Of course, Sen. Warner isn't likely to sponsor any speaker who isn't favorable to CAIR. He attends their banquets!

 
At 10/17/2006 9:47 PM, Blogger Brooke said...

From T.S. Elliot:

We are the hollow men
We are the stuffed men
Leaning together
Headpiece filled with straw. Alas!
Our dried voices, when
We whisper together
Are quiet and meaningless
As wind in dry grass
Or rats' feet over broken glass
In our dry cellar



Shape without form, shade without colour,
Paralysed force, gesture without motion;

Sightless, unless
The eyes reappear
As the perpetual star
Multifoliate rose
Of death's twilight kingdom
The hope only
Of empty men.

This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.

 
At 10/17/2006 10:15 PM, Blogger Obob said...

Where does the ACLU stand on this? Okay, stop laughing. The ACLU will stand on the graves of dead non-muslims and take a big old crap. Then crap when they realize CAIR will target ehm after they are done with them.

 
At 10/18/2006 1:13 AM, Blogger David Schantz said...

Kind of down tonight. Between the War On Terrorism and a North Korea with nuclear weapons I'm wondering if our Great-Grand Daughter will get a chance to become an adult.

God Bless America, God Save The Republic.

 
At 10/18/2006 8:48 AM, Blogger Steve Harkonnen said...

David,

Never give up hope for our future. Our children will grow up to be prosperous adults. By then, Muslim militancy will be a thing of the past.

 
At 10/18/2006 9:46 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

David,
Ditto what Steve said.

I don't have children, but I guess that I'm a warrior when it comes to fighting to preserve Western civilization, with all its corresponding freedoms.

The news this morning is not good. It looks as if the situation with North Korea is escalating.

 
At 10/18/2006 9:50 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

O Bob,
Where does the ACLU stand on this?...

I know of one case in North Carolina, where CAIR and the ACLU teamed up to try to get a court to rule about using the Koran for certain swearings-in. I believe that the ACLU and CAIR lost that one; according to the NC constitution, only the Bible may be used.

CAIR will target ehm after they are done with them.

I agree.

 
At 10/18/2006 10:45 AM, Blogger Mark said...

Steve:

Never give up hope for our future. Our children will grow up to be prosperous adults. By then, Muslim militancy will be a thing of the past.

With the way things are going, it's difficult not to give up hope for the future! I have just been listening to an interview of your president online, on Bill O'Reilly's website.

I'm sorry to say this about your president, but the more I listen/watch him speaking on Islam and Iraq, the more he turns my stomach! With the way things are being conducted in the highest places in the West, I am not at all sure that our children and our children's children do have such a rosy future. I'm inclined to agree with David Schantz, for I, too, get depressed by the way things are going. This thing with North Korea just adds another sinister dimension to it all.

I feel sick in my stomach when I read the nonsense that your president comes out with in those damn Iftaar dinners. Such bizarre statements as these for instance.

This war in Iraq has been a disaster, yet Bush and Blair refuse to face up to their errors. Had they known something about the nature of Islam, then they just might have decided that to begin such a war would be a grave error. But as the saying goes: Fools rush in where angels fear to tread!

Now I speak as a one time admirer of George W Bush. Indeed, had I been an American, I would have voted for him (to my shame)! So I am not in any way a consummate Bush-basher. But he really is someone who does not seem to have a clue about the nature of the enemy he is fighting. Moreover, I find it bizarre, to say the least, that he should be holding Iftaar dinners at the White House, holding dinners to feed the very people we should be fighting against. They are out to destroy our civilization; and George Bush doesn't even seem to realize it! How ridiculous is that?

Can anyone on this forum really imagine Sir Winston Churchill holding such grand dinners for the Nazis during World War II? I think not. It would have quite, quite unthinkable. So what is your president doing this for? And further, why does he find it necessary to hold such dinners to celebrate Islam when he doesn't find it necessary to do the same for Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Zoroastrians, etc? Why this one-sided respect for Islam, and Islam alone?

Were I to be an American, I should be furious with this man. He is betraying all that America stands for. If he thinks that by appeasing these people that he will be able to bring harmony between Muslims and Infidels, then he is greatly mistaken. One only has to observe the disharmony around the world in each and every country in which Islam has gained in strength. These are facts, and George Bush cannot change them with sweet words. Each and every country Islam has ever been allowed to put down roots, it has eventually taken over! Now that's a sobering thought, isn't it? There is only one exception to this, and that was Moorish Spain. But it took the Spaniards hundreds of years to reconquer their own country. Hundreds of years!

Islam is an insidious 'religion'; indeed, it is NOT a religion in our sense of the word at all. Rather, it is a geo-political system. Yes, it is clothed in a deity; but that's all!

Islam is out to take over America; and it is out to take over the rest of the West, too. It will not stop until it does, unless, of course, we find a way of stopping them. We will not stop them the way that George Bush is going about it. He has made a hash of this war. History will not be kind to him.

Islam has grown greatly in strength here in the West since 9/11. We can thank the likes of George Bush for making such an exponential growth possible.

So, David, unless there is an about face in policy, I agree with you that it us hard to see that our children and grandchildren have a future at all. Unless, of course, by a future one is referring to an Islamic one!

©Mark Alexander

 
At 10/18/2006 11:32 AM, Blogger The Merry Widow said...

Mark- You have no idea, WorldNetDaily has been following the emerging North American Union, the secret conferences, the universitys playing trilateral parliment, the secret department that was never presented to congress...we have been betrayed.

tmw

 
At 10/18/2006 1:19 PM, Blogger Mark said...

The Merry Widow:

Mark- You have no idea, WorldNetDaily has been following the emerging North American Union, the secret conferences, the universitys playing trilateral parliment, the secret department that was never presented to congress...we have been betrayed.

Yes, I am aware of that, too. I fear that you poor Americans have indeed been betrayed. Sad. Very sad indeed!

 
At 10/18/2006 4:45 PM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

Such hysteria. The black muslim movement is considered apostate by many Middle East muslims. Seems to me this is just another example of white bread america being a little "afraid of the dark".

Muslim conversions by Hispanics? That's news. Seems to be a lot of Hispanics going evangelical which is a source of concern for people who believe in the value of reason.

Saudi funded mosques? Probably. Now you really don't think that The Dauphin is going to give any lip to Prince Bandar Bush do you? The Bush crime syndicate is in to tight with the Saudis. You lose. I'd stop voting Republican but it seems you suckers think Chucklenuts is going to give you tax breaks or something.

 
At 10/18/2006 5:01 PM, Blogger The Merry Widow said...

plucky- You are blind and deaf.

tmw

 
At 10/18/2006 6:37 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Duck,
Hysteria? I don't see it that way. You must have a different definition of hysteria.

A few years back, either Time or Newsweek carried a story about the conversion of Latinos to Islam, particularly in Argentina. I guess that you missed that story.

The black muslim movement is considered apostate by many Middle East muslims.

True. Which is not to say that Middle East Muslims won't use black Muslims for certain purposes.

I concede that our alliance with Saudi is part of the problem. See members of any political party dealing with that problem? I don't.

If I recall correctly, Gore has ties with Occidental Petroleum--just a conncection about which I've read.

 
At 10/18/2006 6:38 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Mark,
Thank you for that lengthy comment.

GWB is a universalist. I believe that you posted a video showing that.

 
At 10/18/2006 7:52 PM, Blogger Brooke said...

"White bread America?"

Ducky, I would classify that as a racist statement.

 
At 10/18/2006 8:48 PM, Blogger FreeCyprus said...

>>
Seems the majority of blacks converting to Islam are from the prison population. Those who've lived a life of violence may be attracted to islam? I don't know...but it doesn't seem that middle to upper class blacks, well educated blacks, are embracing Islam. what are the actual numbers?

Hispanics..the majority are definitely Christian. How quickly is the Muslim Hispanic population growing in the US?

The Pew Charitable Trusts in 2003 prepared a detailed study of Hispanic Churches in American Public Life. 70% of U.S. Hispanics reported themselves Catholic, and 23% Protestant...that's 93% of the total.

http://www.pewtrusts.org/pdf/religion_hispanic_churches.pdf

 
At 10/18/2006 9:18 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Free Cyprus,
The percentage is small, according to what I've read. If I remember correctly, the conversion is largely Latina. The Aztlan site has some information, I think, but I don't know how reliable the stats are (if, indeed, stats are included). As an example of some of the disturbing material at the above site, see THIS. You might also want to look over "The Need for an Islamic-Latino Public Affairs Council".
One sentence: We see no conflict between the Qur'an and the New Testament as they relate to Jesus Christ.

Also, see Osama bin Laden: The 'Pancho Villa' of Islam.
Last two paragraphs: There are other uncanny similarities between Osama bin Laden and Francisco Villa. Both are revered by the common people of each respective community. Both are seen as Robin Hoods by the poor and oppressed. Both were construction contractors at one time in their lives. Francisco Villa was a general contractor on the construction of the railroad through Chihuahua's majestic Copper Canyon. Both Osama bin Laden and General Francisco Villa were indirectly fighting those whom they perceived to be lackeys of the United States. General Villa was fighting Venustanio Carranza, who had a cozy "sellout" relationship with Woodrow Wilson, and Osama bin Laden is fighting the Saudi Royalty who have a very cozy relationship with US oil interests to the detriment of the overall disenfranchised Arab population.

The U.S. military expedition to capture Francisco Villa was doomed to failure because Pershing and his Punitive Expedition where unfamiliar with the territory, were up against a very clever military genius, and were operating within a very hostile local population who had come to see the revolutionary as a folk hero and national symbol of defying America. General Francisco Villa was seen by Mexicans as a clear winner, emerging triumphant from a battle with the powerful United States and assumed legendary status that endures till this day. It certainly appears today, that Osama bin Laden is headed for the very same legendary and folk hero status in Islam.


See Aztlan's right sidebar for additional information. I used the search option and typed in Islam to bring up several articles.

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Seems the majority of blacks converting to Islam are from the prison population....what are the actual numbers?

I'm not a stats person (Maybe other commenters have input as to the figures), and I think the numbers are small. However, the numbers don't have to be large to have a significant negative impact. Imams with shady connections are preaching in the prison system.

At least one such group of prisoners was nabbed in Southern California, before the plans were put into effect.

 
At 10/18/2006 10:43 PM, Blogger Terror-Free said...

CAIR - 1, FREE SPEECH - 0
Islamonazi CAIR Intimidates Yet Another American Business In Dhimmitude

http://www.terrorfreeoil.org/videos/MS092506.php - MSNBC video

Free Patriotic Corner Banners: http://www.terrorfreeoil.org/cb/

 
At 10/18/2006 11:18 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

"More US Hispanics Drawn to Islam" (emphasis mine).

Excerpt:

...The population of Hispanic Muslims has increased 30 percent to some 200,000 since 1999, estimates Ali Khan, national director of the American Muslim Council in Chicago. Many attribute the trend to a growing interest in Islam since the 2001 terrorist attacks and also to a collision between two burgeoning minority groups. They note that Muslims ruled Spain centuries ago, leaving an imprint on Spanish food, music, and language.

"Many Hispanics ... who are becoming Muslim, would say they are embracing their heritage, a heritage that was denied to them in a sense," says Ihsan Bagby, professor of Arabic and Islamic studies at the University of Kentucky.

The trend has spawned Latino Islamic organizations such as the Latino American Dawah Organization, established in 1997 by Hispanic converts in New York City. Today the organization is nationwide.

The growth in the Hispanic Muslim population is especially prevalent in New York, Florida, California, and Texas, where Hispanic communities are largest. In Orlando, the area's largest mosque, which serves some 700 worshipers each week, is located in a mostly Hispanic neighborhood. A few years ago it was rare to hear Spanish spoken at the mosque, says Imam Muhammad Musri, president of the Islamic Society of Central Florida.

Today there is a growing demand for books in Spanish, including the Koran, and requests for appearances on Spanish-language radio stations, Mr. Musri says. The mosque offers a Spanish-language education program in Islam for women on Saturdays....

 
At 10/19/2006 12:14 AM, Blogger Steve Harkonnen said...

Mark said:

I feel sick in my stomach when I read the nonsense that your president comes out with in those damn Iftaar dinners. Such bizarre statements as these for instance.

Mark, I totally agree with you. Good catch on what I had said earlier. Perhaps I was being a bit too hopeful, but I see your point. Bush may well indeed be a factor preventing the elimination of radical muslims. Go read my blog about Bush meeting Khatami and you will see our mindset is in agreeance, for I too was once an admirer of Bush. Sadly, that has come to pass. We have Neville Chamberlain all over again when we need Reagan or better yet, another Churchill.

To make matters worse, I see no one that is worthy of being our new president in 2008. I would rather vote for a ham sandwich if one should run.

 
At 10/19/2006 6:21 AM, Blogger The Merry Widow said...

Steve- It probably will come down to holding our noses and voting for the least noxious! But like you said, there are some ham sandwiches I'd prefer to have in office, or a nice corned beef!
Good morning, G*D bless and Maranatha!

tmw

 
At 10/19/2006 9:10 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Steve,
Just on principle, I vote in every election. Often, my ballot is cast for the candidate who is the lesser bad choice. Rarely do I find myself in complete support of a candidate, but I usually find myself in complete opposition to one candidate. I liken the choice to taking an SAT--process of elimination. Not a good way to vote, maybe, but that's what the choice usually comes down to for me.

 
At 10/19/2006 9:43 AM, Blogger nanc said...

david schantz said, "...I'm wondering if our Great-Grand Daughter will get a chance to become an adult."

let's not lose sight of eternity - that's really when life begins. this is what comforts me during these times.

go with G-d.

 
At 10/19/2006 12:45 PM, Blogger Mark said...

Mark, I totally agree with you. Good catch on what I had said earlier. Perhaps I was being a bit too hopeful, but I see your point.

I think you were being a little too hopeful, actually, if you don''t mind my saying so, Steve. The West is actually in dire straights. All because Western governments have steadfastly refused to name the enemy. The result: Islam has grown apace here in the West. President Bush is particularly disturbing in this regard, because he will not come to terms with the nature of the enemy, and he will not come to terms with who the enemy really is. He therefore has a hell of a lot to answer for.

 
At 10/21/2006 2:44 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Nanc,
let's not lose sight of eternity - that's really when life begins. this is what comforts me during these times.

Beautifully said!

 
At 10/21/2006 2:45 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Mark,
The West is actually in dire straights. All because Western governments have steadfastly refused to name the enemy.

Yes, the ideological jihad is moving ahead, and so many Westerners seem not to be aware of what's happening.

 
At 10/21/2006 2:53 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

TMW,
WorldNetDaily has been following the emerging North American Union, the secret conferences, the universitys playing trilateral parliment, the secret department that was never presented to congress...we have been betrayed.

Frank Corliss has been following the NAU. Have you seen his series of articles?

 
At 10/26/2006 6:01 AM, Blogger Mark said...

Always:

Yes, the ideological jihad is moving ahead, and so many Westerners seem not to be aware of what's happening.

Yes, ignorance and denial will do us in good and proper.

 
At 10/26/2006 6:31 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Mark,
In some wayes, the ideological jihad is even more dangerous. People are reticent to discuss the ideological jihad because of political correctness and multiculturalism, both of which have resulted in curbing free speech for those who consider criticizing Islam.

 

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