Sunday, December 04, 2005

CAIR Didn't Like This One

I found the link to the following letter to the editor of the Tribune & Georgian on the CAIR web site, under "Incitement Watch":
Western appeasement will only embolden Islamic terrorists

"Dear Editor, This Muslim Islamic terrorist thing is getting out of hand and many Americans are turning into a bunch of wimps. There is a global jihad going on and America has become no better than France and other Western nations that are in denial. This is especially true in regard to the media.

"Americans are woefully ignorant of world history. The first time that most Americans seriously considered the term Islamic terrorism was after the World Trade Center caved in. And then, after a few months of whoop-de-do artificial patriotism, they settled back to their usual mundane worries over gasoline prices, credit card balances and watching fantasy shows on television.

"The violence and butchery of Islam has resurfaced. After six centuries of lying dormant like smoldering algae in the cesspools of the world, these creatures from the black lagoon of history have returned, and they are using the same weapon that they used in the dark ages: terrorism. It’s the only weapon they have because they have been busy spending the last six centuries mutilating their own kind, killing members of their own families and strapping bombs to fools to be able to take a long hard look at themselves and wonder why it is that they can’t even make an automobile or build a building that won’t fall down during an earthquake.

"Yet, they believe they can win because they have observed something new to Western culture; we have now become appeasers and would rather negotiate than fight. That is our weakness and they know it. They also know that any weakness can be exploited. And that is the purpose of terrorism: to exploit a people’s weakness long enough for the weak to begin negotiating. And negotiating with terrorists is a weakness that can be further exploited.

"The Islamic terrorists have found that salient weakness in America; first in the media that excuses their terror and refers to Islamic terrorists as freedom fighters, insurgents and people who only have an opposing view. Then they found weakness in people who are easily manipulated because they have never been educated in world history.

"It’s a shameful indictment of their apathy and appeasement when the broadcast and print media refuse to air and print opposing views to Islamic radicalism for fear they will be inundated with scorn from Islamic sympathizers who spend their time searching the Internet and newspapers for anything that might resemble an affront to their so-called religion of peace. When are these people of peace going voice their affront to their brothers and sisters who are not so peaceful? I’ll answer that: never, because they agree with their terrorist brothers and sisters.

"When the national broadcast media and local newspapers refuse to publicize opposition views to radical Islam, they have become appeasers, and appeasers always bring more death and destruction to the world.

"The first rule of war is to kill your enemy first. You lose fewer of your own people that way."
CAIR advertises its condemnation of terrorism. The web site so states in several different sections. What does CAIR find so objectionable in the above letter? Is CAIR powerful enough to put pressure on newspapers so that such publications will hesitate to publish certain letters to th editor?

Note: I went back to CAIR's web site but couldn't seem to find the above "Incitement Watch." Trust me--I found the above letter on the CAIR web site. The disappearance (and sometimes reappearance) of items from CAIR's web site is nothing new. Read here, and see the photos here for CAIR's amusing manipulation of a hijab photo.

Many of CAIR's articles focus on what Muslims find offensive. At 6th Column Against Jihad, read a large portion of Hugh Fitzgerald's analysis "Aren't YOU Offended That Muslims Are So Easily Offended by Everything Non-Muslims Say or Do?"

59 Comments:

At 12/04/2005 9:39 PM, Blogger Jason_Pappas said...

Someone in Georgia knows the score! Great letter.

 
At 12/04/2005 10:13 PM, Blogger Toni said...

In reading this letter I kept finding myself nodding my head in agreement. How is it that Muslims have become such a powerful minority and why does their religion make them a minority? My tolerance for anyone of the Muslim faith is losing purchase. Those of the Muslim faith are either silent or praising the Islamofacists.

 
At 12/04/2005 10:17 PM, Blogger Mussolini said...

Of course CAIR finds it objectionable while spouting peace, love, and kumbaya on their site -

- it's called taqiyyah

Lying bastards.

 
At 12/04/2005 10:30 PM, Anonymous elmers brother said...

My tolerance for anyone of the Muslim faith is losing purchase

it's called taqiyyah

I must admit my own patience with the media, the government and even my fellow Americans is wearing thin. When will this country wake up? Would we have let the Nazi's set up shop during WWII?

 
At 12/04/2005 10:40 PM, Blogger Mussolini said...

Some of us are awake. Americans are a pretty bright lot.

However, the media is in full politically correct exposure, feeding us lies and apologizing for Islam at every opportunity. Our representatives are all political whores, kneeling at the feet of the media and repeating only what they think might garner media approval.

With the lies dribbling down our politicians chins, the rest of us sensible people can only watch the approaching train wreck.

It'll be bloody, and the media will blame the "right wing."

 
At 12/04/2005 10:42 PM, Blogger LASunsett said...

"Americans are woefully ignorant of world history. The first time that most Americans seriously considered the term Islamic terrorism was after the World Trade Center caved in. And then, after a few months of whoop-de-do artificial patriotism, they settled back to their usual mundane worries over gasoline prices, credit card balances and watching fantasy shows on television."

Another good find, AOW.

In reference to the above excerpt, I have to say that this is strikingly true.

But, while there are many that see and understand this threat, there are still those that ignore it (for many different reasons).

These people fall into two categories.

The first category is made up of the people that are honestly blind about the whole situation. They don't know any better, they listen to the lies and distortions, and they believe them; because, they are convinced that George Bush is this evil person that has caused all of this. But, they honestly believe it, because they honestly don't know any better. They do not have the analytical skills to think it through on their own.

The second consists of the ones that create the lies and distortions that these people believe. They hate George Bush and will stop at nothing to discredit him, for politcal purposes only. These are they that care only about getting back into power, after being rejected by the electorate, and they do not care one ounce about this country.

I am afraid that the only thing that will awaken many people is another attack. In many cases, complacency is the cause of people falling into a sleep, when they should be awake. But many will never awaken, even at that.

But all that said, the person that generates the lies and distortions is guilty of the greater offense. They know the truth and yet still, they choose to deceive.

As long as these people exist, CAIR (and other like it) will have allies that will help them advance their deceptive agenda. They will see the weaknesses and most certainly will exploit them.

 
At 12/04/2005 11:56 PM, Blogger beakerkin said...

Always

I sense that the next time we are attacked something ugly will be unleashed. The media knows it and even in NYC non political types are fed up.

When we get hit again do not be shocked if there is some counter violence. This did occur in the Netherlands where Mosques were torched. No I do not seek or wish violence but the games of CAIR are stoking the flames.A long time ago they should have denounced the 9-11 aeeacks but they played word games.

Even in VT among anti war types there is an anger at the Muslim community. The anti war types up here are not the commie left.

 
At 12/05/2005 12:51 AM, Blogger traditional_christian said...

Muslims use what they can to manipulate both themselves and westerners into thinking their way. The sad part is that, with all the information available to us today, we still fall for it every time.

 
At 12/05/2005 4:47 AM, Anonymous Felis said...

Our role is to scream and to educate.
Of course at the present we are mostly "preaching" to the already converted.
More exposure to the broader public is needed very badly but this requires resources and much stronger combined effort.

 
At 12/05/2005 8:42 AM, Blogger Timothy Birdnow said...

Great letter, AOW; I can see why CAIR is angry about it-it exposes Islamic behavior (and our own).

I fear it`s going to take something far worse before America is awakened to the danger.

 
At 12/05/2005 10:57 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Wouldn't CAIR do better by responding to "the charges" against Islam and Islamism ("radical Islam")?

CAIR's lack of open discussion and attempts to censor media (Remember Michael Graham? The lawsuit against Andrew Whitehead of Anti-CAIR?) lead to several possible conclusions, several of which are expressed earlier here in the comments section.

And that hijab doctoring on the part of CAIR makes CAIR look the fool--and worse. I hope that everyone has a look at that link, which is included in the above article.

I also recall CAIR giving support to Ahmed Abu Ali. I have a November 30, 2005 article on this site about Abu Ali. If CAIR purports to be an organization supportive of America, why hasn't CAIR come out in specific condemnation of Abu Ali, now that he has been convicted?

 
At 12/05/2005 12:35 PM, Blogger G_in_AL said...

I just watched that movie "Kingdom of Heaven"... what a great piece of fiction. I seriously like the part where the "evil Christins" were inciting a war (even thought they held all the power?), and only the Christian that thought the Church was a bunch of hoo-ey knew better.

Meanwhile, the Muslims in all their patient splendor, finally could take no more and were forced to attack and kill every last Christian soldier, then march to Jeruselem herself. Again, this brave anti-church Christian defied the weasle like clergy and fought so bravely that the Muslims decided to let them live. And then in their genorasity, as the nice anti-church Christian points out, the Muslims allow the women and children, along with the soldiers all go alive to the sea. This was (as the anti-Church Christian pointed out) very unlike the earlier Christians that killed everyone in the city when they took it.

What I found most amusing, what that the Muslims only had one person among them who was blood thursty, and he only over recapturing Jeruselem... but those evil Christians, they sure just wanted to kill folks....

Did CAIR help produce that movie?

 
At 12/05/2005 2:09 PM, Blogger Esther said...

What a fabulous letter. Too bad it will fall mostly on deaf ears. Great find tho!

I love the name of the article you linked to at the bottom of this post. I think most of us here would nod our heads in agreement.

 
At 12/05/2005 4:25 PM, Anonymous Felis said...

AOW,
"Many of CAIR's articles focus on what Muslims find offensive."

Muslims find (instructed by the Qur'an) all things which we, infidels do offensive.
There is no room for us and the true followers of Allah under the same roof.

BTW, I followed the Hijab "cover up" (no pun intended) from the beginning.
It was very telling, but it was totally ignored by the dhimmis running the MSM.

 
At 12/05/2005 5:06 PM, Blogger American Crusader said...

Unfortunately many of the claims made by the author are correct. For a small minority of Americans, 9/11 is still very fresh in their memories, but for others it has all but disappeared. The media would rather cover Cindy Sheehan then the parents of other soldiers who are proud their children served and serve this country. I don't think the author was aware that CAIR supports international terrorist groups. Anti-CAIR has proven that in court. Also the founders of CAIR have made their intentions very clear right from the beginning: wanting to make Islam the supreme religion of America and implementing Sharia law.

 
At 12/05/2005 5:07 PM, Blogger American Crusader said...

Unfortunately many of the claims made by the author are correct. For a small minority of Americans, 9/11 is still very fresh in their memories, but for others it has all but disappeared. The media would rather cover Cindy Sheehan then the parents of other soldiers who are proud their children served and serve this country. I don't think the author was aware that CAIR supports international terrorist groups. Anti-CAIR has proven that in court. Also the founders of CAIR have made their intentions very clear right from the beginning: wanting to make Islam the supreme religion of America and implementing Sharia law.

 
At 12/05/2005 5:26 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Crusader is so correct!

Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.
-Omar Ahmad, Co-founder of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)

I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future...But I'm not going to do anything violent to promote that. I'm going to do it through education.
-Ibrahim Hooper, CAIR Spokesperson

 
At 12/06/2005 11:51 AM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

AOW, you go on about a perceived inability to criticize Islam and I will hold that up against Beak's pathetic "anti-semite" rantings which you cheer lead from time to time.

If the far right religious elements can take criticism.... they haven't shown it.

On one hand you are surprised when a muslim says he wouldn't be upset if the government were muslim (does that surprise you?) and on the other you have no apparent qualms about psycho Protestant "dominionists" meeting with the Bush administration and Opus Dei members on the Supreme Court.

 
At 12/06/2005 12:58 PM, Blogger Mussolini said...

The founding of this country is a result of religious people wanting to worship freely.

I'm sure that shocks the hell out of Mr Ducky.

Further, it's the freedom those far-right religious whacko dominionists psychos put into place that fosters the free society we have today.

So, yes, we get upset when someone wants to take those freedoms away. Go soak your head on that one, muslim apologist.

In Islam, there IS NO ROOM for American religious-inspired secularism.

 
At 12/06/2005 1:45 PM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

You are so right, Bill. The Puritans wanted to worship freely and screw anyone who didn't agree with them.

They were interested in freedom for themselves only. Typical protestants.

Take your "freedom's away". You're probably just a Homer Simpson trying to make the credit card payments. What freedoms are you talking about?

You haven't done anything but eat tuna sandwichs for lunch your whole life. Freedom is quite valuable but remember,bill, just because you're comfortable doesn't mean you're free.

 
At 12/06/2005 5:05 PM, Blogger Storm said...

Mr. Ducky have you ever read the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The people you describe only exist in your addled brain. Our laws are clear with respect to freedom of religion.

Regardless of their personal beliefs they formed a country were all can worship. The difference is that no other country has created the same environment certainity not Islamic countries.

 
At 12/06/2005 8:09 PM, Blogger Mussolini said...

I have no credit card payments. I am a marginally wealthy retired 41-year old.

I am also a practical Christian, which means I believe like I do and don't want someone telling me I cannot express myself in this country where the freedom of religious expression is supposed to be gauranfuckingteed.

I can live with atheists, how come they cannot live with me??

 
At 12/06/2005 8:11 PM, Blogger Mussolini said...

btw, Mussolini = Bill

 
At 12/06/2005 8:25 PM, Anonymous Felis said...

AOW,
Have you read this by any chance?

http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/1294

 
At 12/06/2005 8:41 PM, Blogger Bassizzzt said...

I'm sure that Andy Whitehead would have something to say about this one.

I'm not surprised by CAIR to post this as an incitement. If you are ever caught farting near a muslim, CAIR will post your fart as an incitement to Muslims.

They are, indeed, that sensitive.

They are also wacked out of their minds.

 
At 12/07/2005 8:07 AM, Blogger samwich said...

Hi AOW, I donot wish to offend you but it offends me that the Koran/Quran describes the acceptable ways to have sex with babies and animals.

www.homa.org/Details.asp?contentID=2137352826&TOCID=2083225445

That link is one piece but your space wasn't loooooooooong enough.

This is no joke. These people are typical abusives.
Abusive people are easily offended and look for offense. That's a Muslim. That's also alot of others but the Muslims have it as a life long commandment. They hide the truth about themselves.

S

 
At 12/07/2005 8:11 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

G,
I need to look at Kingdom of Heaven. My Christmas break is coming, so I'll pick up a copy at the video store. I'll go through the credits to see what I can find.

One never knows how much influence CAIR has over media. CAIR often works behind the scenes.

 
At 12/07/2005 8:15 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Felis,
I'll read that link when my work schedule eases off later this week. I've already had a glance, and the material looks interesting.

 
At 12/07/2005 8:19 AM, Blogger samwich said...

Bill, are you totally blind about politics? This country and the Constitution were hijacked by Woodrow Wilson and our fate was sealed by Franklin D Roosevelt when he sold America to the Council on Foriegn Relations in bankruptcy court.

Bush's grandfather financed Hilter

You need to bone up on what government is really up too.
Fascist social programs, funded by the victims.

 
At 12/07/2005 8:25 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Duck,
Beak's pathetic "anti-semite" rantings which you cheer lead from time to time.
But Beak isn't censoring your comments. CAIR might if your position opposed theirs. And, truly, I don't do that much cheerleading, at least as not much cheerleading as you do criticizing.

If the far right religious elements can take criticism.... they haven't shown it.
Some do, most don't. Frankly, I don't have much respect for any who don't take part in reasoned discussion. The left, far or not, doesn't take criticism particularly well, from what I've observed.

On one hand you are surprised when a muslim says he wouldn't be upset if the government were muslim (does that surprise you?) and on the other you have no apparent qualms about psycho Protestant "dominionists" meeting with the Bush administration and Opus Dei members on the Supreme Court.
I oppose dominioists in general. And if a Muslim government would violate American ideals, such as the free speech we exercise here, I think such is a very serious matter. In addition, you've conveniently ignored some of the shady connections that various officials at CAIR have.
And I thought you didn't like Saudi connections? How much funding from Saudi does CAIR accept?

 
At 12/07/2005 8:29 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Samwich,
Don't worry about offending me. The information in that link is downright disgusting. Ick!

 
At 12/07/2005 8:31 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Bill,
I can live with atheists, how come they cannot live with me??
That's how I feel! I leave it to the Lord to make judgments, but I want my right to practice my faith, as in the First Amendment.

But some are so easily offended, aren't they? I have a difficult time understanding that.

 
At 12/07/2005 8:41 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Bassizzzt,
You make quite a point there. Satire? Or the reality?

 
At 12/07/2005 10:11 AM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

Oooops, the professor at the Florida University was found not guilty in a jury trial over terrorism charges.

In a way this is troubling since failure in the courts means that the administration will be sending the product of their random, fundie inspired seeps to illegal detention. This really gives a great signal to the rest of the world about our human rights commitments.

Fine work by President Dipstick.

 
At 12/07/2005 11:11 AM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4501448.stm

AOW asks how much CAIR receives from the Saudis. A fair question and i don't know but I'm going to assume the Saudis are involved in some mischief there as everywhere.
BBC is reporting on the Saudi economy. It has shown remarkable growth and their debt problems are under control. Mind you, the royal family was pretty much bankrupt only a few years ago.

So another good question may be...How much are we contributing to the Saudis? In this case I think the much despised Michael Moore did a pretty good job of reporting the administration's "special relationship" with the Saudi government.

Anyone who thinks the Bush crew is particularly interested in overlooking the money to be made (they are taking their cut in Saudi, one of Chimp's brothers is the family bag man in Kuwait) in favor of "security" is a bit naive.

 
At 12/07/2005 11:35 AM, Blogger Mussolini said...

Samwich: Brush up on politics? You assume I think a certain way because I'm a Christian? How... cosmopolitan of you.

Let me brush YOU up on some relevant political history. Lincoln (damn his dark soul) launched this country into the bloodiest illegal war we've fought over the relationship between state and federal authorities. Not over rape, murder, or WMDs. Of course he only continued the federal assault on our freedoms that began with the Alien and Sedition Acts, the Kentucky Resolutions of 1798, the Missouri Compromise in 1820, the Kansas Nebraska Act of 1854, the "protective tariffs" of the 1850s.

Don't assume I am a "Bush-bot" or whatever other derogatory term you want to sling. Every president since Noah got off the damned ark has been in bed with the Saudis or Hitler or any other number of our enemies. Will you remember all this conspiracy crap when the Chinese turn ugly? Will you remember that Clinton ponied on up to the communist schlong and sold them our military secrets? I wonder.

Mr Ducky: Bush and Saud connections are well-known. Every president has had them. If certain motivations were all about oil, we would have invaded Canada, where we get the majority of our oil. It's closer.

Allowing Saudi Arabia to stand while they fund Islam against the west is a serious crime, though. Unfortunately, with Bush's ties to Saud and the politically correct disease that stops us from naming our true enemies in this war, I don't see the situation getting any better.

 
At 12/07/2005 5:21 PM, Blogger samwich said...

Bill. I apologise, you are much more well versed on American political chicanery than your post indicated.

Me, cosmopolitan, Lord I hope not.
If so I just wasted $150K on a section (640 acres) of mountain paradise with clean air and well water from ancient glaciers, 11,00-15,000 years frozen, rabbits, antelope, deer, elk, an occasional moose, coyote, wolf, bobcat, cougar, buzzard, eagle, hawk, a very occasional black bear, grouse, pheasant, turkey, squirrels, chipmunks etc.

And a paradise it is.

 
At 12/07/2005 5:23 PM, Blogger samwich said...

AOW, thanks, I had heard the strong rumors but had not seen any hard evidence that it was acceptable as a religious doctrine.

Like Mulder said, the truth is out there.

S

 
At 12/07/2005 9:50 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

About Al-Arian (I couldn't get the link to the Washington Post to work for today's, December 7's, article entitled "Fla. Professor is Acquitted in Case Seen as Patriot Act Test," but I have the hard copy in hand):
The trial was a crucial test of government power under the USA Patriot Act...The accusations were based on 20,000 hours of phone conversations and hundreds of faxes secretly monitored beginning in 1993...

Outside the courtroom, Ahmed Bedier, regional director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), a Muslim civil rights group, praised the al-Arian verdict. Al-Arial, a Kuwaiti-born Palestinian, had become a controversial symbol for advocates of academic and speech freedom and for American Muslims who support the Palestinian cause...

"This sends a very positive message that Muslims can receive a fair trial in America."


One juror has stated that the government just didn't make the case.

But, yes, the outcome is a big oops, as Duck put it, but not just with regard to detention. My concern is that more funding of terroris connected and more call for the overthrow of our government will continue to come from the classrooms in the universities here. And while I don't know all the details of the Al-Arian case, those are my concerns.

In FPM @
http://frontpagemag.com/
Articles/
ReadArticle.asp?ID=20461 , Joe Kaufman, who attended the trial, said the following:
This case was a big blow for the war on terrorism. Although most Americans are attuned to what's happening in Iraq, they may have missed what's going on right in their own country. Sami al-Arian was a major player on the wrong side of this war. Because someone like him – someone who was so blatantly involved in terrorism – was acquitted, the Justice Department may think twice before bringing future terror cases to trial. And that undoubtedly will embolden the enemy.

No doubt about it, IMO: our government has a mixed message and a mixed policy when coming to terrorism. The Post article goes into some detail on that inconsistency.

As Bill points out, several admins have buddied up to Saudi. Saudi's attempts to curtail Wahhabism are pretty much nominal, and our relationship with Saudi is indeed akin to a dangerous and fatal disease.

 
At 12/07/2005 9:56 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Bill,
Obviously, you know plenty of details about political chicanery. I'm glad to see that Samwich has so acknowledged.

Like you, I'm not a Bush-bot! I agree with him on some matters, but I'm very unhappy about the Saudi connection and the immigration "solutions." One would think, because GWB will not be again running for Prez, that he would be less concerned about political correctness.

 
At 12/07/2005 10:12 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Here's the link for the Washington Post story (free registration required):
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp-dyn/content/article/
2005/12/06/AR2005120601012_pf.html

 
At 12/07/2005 11:26 PM, Anonymous felis said...

AOW,
"One would think, because GWB will not be again running for Prez, that he would be less concerned about political correctness."

This is something I cannot understand at all.
Well I am an outsider but still...

 
At 12/08/2005 12:24 PM, Blogger Mussolini said...

Political "chicanery"...

Political treason!

What we have today is the abomination our founding fathers dreaded. This current government is the nightmare, the disease, the vile blasphemy that they bled to avoid! My disgust for it stretches whatever limited capacity my brain holds, and indeed, exceeds it.

How many American fathers could have been saved by just giving in and going along? Why die over taxes? Why die over the relationship between the state and federal authorities? What a waste by today's wimp-ass standards.

Samwich, no apologies necessary - love the property description. I just have an old victorian on a postage stamp in the largest ghost town in America.

Bush still has to be mindful of the media. Overt political incorrectness could get him impeached. And does anyone really think Bush is that much of a man? I don't.

Neither party has so much as 1000 politicians between them that could all unite to produce a jizz-squirt of common sense.

Gee, that doesn't sound too optimistic, does it? Selah!

 
At 12/08/2005 3:58 PM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

AOW, point of order.

I had new windows put in yesterday. Nice not to have the winds whistling through the house at night. Contractor did a great job and I got a good price.

Should I have:

1. Passed on the windows and just continued to burn more fuel oil.

2. Asked to see the installers green cards even though they just seemed like guys trying to support their families and they were hard workers.

3. Paid more at a reputable showroom and find out he uses illegals also.

4. Bought the windows and installed them myself despite the problems of tranport and time.

It's a real quandry.

 
At 12/08/2005 5:35 PM, Blogger samwich said...

Mussolini, can I interpret your comment's to indicate a lack of trust in the Council on Foriegn Realtions, Trilateral Commission and Bilderburg group?

 
At 12/08/2005 5:48 PM, Blogger samwich said...

Hi AOW, about the Kohmeini link.
Do you feel like you could spread the link among other bloggers?

Communcation is power

One putzy copywriter produced an ad about a black convict walking through a turnstile. Dukakis lost to Bush, 1988 (not me)

Oil Slick Slade Sold Seattle Out (me) Slade Gorton (R) WA Lost to Maria Cantwell by 2000 votes in 2000.

The Ken Eikenberry How To Steal Money From Mormons Kit.
Wa State Atty Gen, lost Governor race to Mike Lowry. 1992 (me again)
In Washington State if mormons do not block vote republican, the dums win by default.

Communication is power.

Sam and Associates
Advertising Copywriters
Market Position and
Media Strategists.

Communication is power

I said it three times because it is THAT important and that effective.

Bloggers made the biggest difference in the 2004 elections.
KERRY LOST.

S

 
At 12/08/2005 8:13 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Samwich,
I've notified several. Yes, communication is power.

I wonder if some lefties see bestiality as a cultural variant?

 
At 12/08/2005 8:20 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Duck,
Well, I don't have that quandary. My cousin-in-law does all that kind of work for a living and doesn't hire illegals, or much of anybody else except for his buddies at the VFW.

I will agree with you that most immigrants are very hard workers, and I commend their work ethic. But you know how I feel about illegal immigrants. For me, it's a matter of law.

Truly, I'm glad to hear that the wind is no longer whistling through your house. We should all conserve energy, if for no other reason than to prevent the Saudis from lining their pockets.

My fireplace is in use this season, for the first time in some 40 years. This house is over 60 years old and leaks like a sieve. But at least I don't have to worry about radon.

 
At 12/08/2005 8:22 PM, Blogger Mussolini said...

Samwich - to tell you the truth, I don't know a whole lot about them.

Back in the 80s I was a little more interested that CFR was pushing for a "one world government," and the TLC was formed for that and other 1-government purposes.

Don't know if any of it is true. If it is, I don't like them. If it isn't and is just grist for the conspiracy mill, well then I'm not much guilty of that, then either.

Someone described me as a possible idiot savant. Taken literally, aren't we all, to a point, one or two subject geniuses? I do my best to be as accurate as possible, using the truth and not historical revisionism while completely eschewing all the rest of the stuff I know nothing about.

But since we're talking... it's a good opportunity to be educated. What should I know about those institutions?

 
At 12/08/2005 8:29 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Bill,
I just have an old victorian on a postage stamp in the largest ghost town in America.
Sounds nice, though.

Care to enlighten us on the Trilateral Commission and the CFR? For starters, anyway.

Political treason!
Agreed, but many don't see it so, in part because of a lack of understanding of the Founding principles. Isn't the old quote something about hanging together or certainly hanging separately?

And, of course, Benjamin Franklin said, "A republic, if you can keep it." I wonder what he would say were he to see the situation today.

 
At 12/08/2005 8:34 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Bill,
We were posting at the same time. No criticism implied in my comment.

We've heard the same thing about "one-world government," but I, too, don't recall the details. Maybe Samwich will enlighten us.

 
At 12/09/2005 5:26 AM, Blogger samwich said...

One World Government:

Before I get started here please be advised I have a unique talent.

When I present truth and get abuse back I am able to make my detractors much more tired of hearing "kiss my ass" than I get tired of saying it.

To see the overall picture one must have what is called "The Helicopter View".

The next educational milestone is an ability to discern "by their fruit shall ye know them".
ie John McCain, Hillary Clinton etc.

You must be willing to read public law and understand that this is what the courts and law enforcement will enforce and Constitution and Bill of Rights be damned. (Kelo, Emminent Domain)

If you can see what the US goverment does with out the spin bullshit you will probaly see what is really going on. That means you need to "hear" what is said when government officials speak. Like Kerry accusing US troops of terrorizing women and children.
(he was stupidly trying to justify fewer troops in Iraq by describing that Iraqi soldiers should do the military dirty work)


Democrats and Republicans are public enemies and private friends.
The main goal is keeping your party on top and the main opposition party alive and well to control the competition.

The most visible guide to the truth is "follow the money".

It started with the House of Rothschild and the Illuminati in Germany in the 1700's.

links to follow.

Google:

Bilderberg, Council on Foriegn Relations, Illuminati, Tri Lateral Commission, Rhodes Scholarships.

There is alot of info and misinfo.

And AOW please remember my comments about 6000 years in the ad racket from a personal email.

S.

 
At 12/09/2005 9:32 AM, Blogger Mussolini said...

"When I present truth and get abuse back I am able to make my detractors much more tired of hearing "kiss my ass" than I get tired of saying it."

(much laughter)

You value the truth and aren't afraid to draw criticism for it. You're my kind of mind. Stand up, speak it, and never, ever apologize.

 
At 12/09/2005 11:32 AM, Blogger G_in_AL said...

How do you manage these tangents AOW? Well, you've got Duck jumping in trying to give us his "class" on social compassion and "realities" of the world. Bill trying to expouse his vast knowledge on limited subjects in hopes of impacting our outlook on certain facets of the government, and the ever present samwich giving us inside glimpes into the ultimate of the so-called black helicopter theory.

By the way, S, your ying/yang lefty counterpart is the one who believes "The Matrix" was not fiction (albeit your theories/ideas/beliefs are actually possible and believable)

I guess this either speaks volumes about your posting content, your posting style, or the people that it attracts. Either way, good job by you.

Happy Friday.

 
At 12/09/2005 2:11 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

G,
I don't know that I have talent for promoting tangents or for attracting certain people, but I LIKE to think that some of the discussions here result from my being a teacher who really enjoys "hosting" heated and insightful discussions. Those classes with vibrant discussions are the highlight of my teaching day.

And I enjoy reading all the comments here--even Duck's--and especially the tangents because many are educational for me personally. I've always loved learning new things!

Unfortunately, Christmas preparations (Hooray! After six days of the tree sitting here with lights only, I have now placed on the first round of ornaments), doctors' appointments, grading papers, and catching up on end-of-year, postponed bookkeeeping matters interfere with my responding to each and every comment--and with commenting when I make my blog rounds as well. But I AM still making rounds, insofar as is possible.

Local fact: One teenager here killed both his father and mother and cited The Matrix as his "reason." I didn't personally know this boy, but one of my colleagues did.

 
At 12/09/2005 2:15 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Bill and Samwich,
Continue on, if you care to. I have some work and Christmas preparations to attend to. Be assured that should either of you post any links, I'll check them out.

 
At 12/09/2005 2:17 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

G,
I forgot to mention that I've noticed some lengthy numbers of comments at your site this week. Over the weekend, I'll make time to read through those discussions.

 
At 12/09/2005 8:39 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Samwich,
Kudos to you for your tough-skinned approach to the abuse you receive when presenting the truth. I've chuckled over your comment for much of today. Right attitude!

 
At 12/09/2005 11:42 PM, Blogger samwich said...

Mussolini and G, I am a seeker of all truth. I do believe that when I am confronted for having embraced that which is false I have no problem abandoning false precepts and embracing the truth.
So if you believe I am wrong, repudiate me with the truth. I will accept it.

I had a girlfriend some years ago, who was the perfect exact right person at the right time to show me the benefit of sobriety. I was a 4-5 beer a night maintenence drinker. She used to get madder than hell because she would focus on some small wrong opinion of mine and I would "surrender the pawn gracefully". She was grateful that it did not intimidate me for her to be right. It annoyed the hell out of her that it did not intimidate me for me to be WRONG either!

She didn't understand that finding life's truth is a very frustrating trial and error process.

The "Helicopter View" is the ability to see the whole picture from the upper levels to the foundation.

All truth is circrumscribed into one great whole truth.

S

 

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