Sunday, December 04, 2005

CAIR Didn't Like This One

I found the link to the following letter to the editor of the Tribune & Georgian on the CAIR web site, under "Incitement Watch":
Western appeasement will only embolden Islamic terrorists

"Dear Editor, This Muslim Islamic terrorist thing is getting out of hand and many Americans are turning into a bunch of wimps. There is a global jihad going on and America has become no better than France and other Western nations that are in denial. This is especially true in regard to the media.

"Americans are woefully ignorant of world history. The first time that most Americans seriously considered the term Islamic terrorism was after the World Trade Center caved in. And then, after a few months of whoop-de-do artificial patriotism, they settled back to their usual mundane worries over gasoline prices, credit card balances and watching fantasy shows on television.

"The violence and butchery of Islam has resurfaced. After six centuries of lying dormant like smoldering algae in the cesspools of the world, these creatures from the black lagoon of history have returned, and they are using the same weapon that they used in the dark ages: terrorism. It’s the only weapon they have because they have been busy spending the last six centuries mutilating their own kind, killing members of their own families and strapping bombs to fools to be able to take a long hard look at themselves and wonder why it is that they can’t even make an automobile or build a building that won’t fall down during an earthquake.

"Yet, they believe they can win because they have observed something new to Western culture; we have now become appeasers and would rather negotiate than fight. That is our weakness and they know it. They also know that any weakness can be exploited. And that is the purpose of terrorism: to exploit a people’s weakness long enough for the weak to begin negotiating. And negotiating with terrorists is a weakness that can be further exploited.

"The Islamic terrorists have found that salient weakness in America; first in the media that excuses their terror and refers to Islamic terrorists as freedom fighters, insurgents and people who only have an opposing view. Then they found weakness in people who are easily manipulated because they have never been educated in world history.

"It’s a shameful indictment of their apathy and appeasement when the broadcast and print media refuse to air and print opposing views to Islamic radicalism for fear they will be inundated with scorn from Islamic sympathizers who spend their time searching the Internet and newspapers for anything that might resemble an affront to their so-called religion of peace. When are these people of peace going voice their affront to their brothers and sisters who are not so peaceful? I’ll answer that: never, because they agree with their terrorist brothers and sisters.

"When the national broadcast media and local newspapers refuse to publicize opposition views to radical Islam, they have become appeasers, and appeasers always bring more death and destruction to the world.

"The first rule of war is to kill your enemy first. You lose fewer of your own people that way."
CAIR advertises its condemnation of terrorism. The web site so states in several different sections. What does CAIR find so objectionable in the above letter? Is CAIR powerful enough to put pressure on newspapers so that such publications will hesitate to publish certain letters to th editor?

Note: I went back to CAIR's web site but couldn't seem to find the above "Incitement Watch." Trust me--I found the above letter on the CAIR web site. The disappearance (and sometimes reappearance) of items from CAIR's web site is nothing new. Read here, and see the photos here for CAIR's amusing manipulation of a hijab photo.

Many of CAIR's articles focus on what Muslims find offensive. At 6th Column Against Jihad, read a large portion of Hugh Fitzgerald's analysis "Aren't YOU Offended That Muslims Are So Easily Offended by Everything Non-Muslims Say or Do?"

33 Comments:

At 12/04/2005 9:39 PM, Blogger Jason Pappas said...

Someone in Georgia knows the score! Great letter.

 
At 12/04/2005 10:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

My tolerance for anyone of the Muslim faith is losing purchase

it's called taqiyyah

I must admit my own patience with the media, the government and even my fellow Americans is wearing thin. When will this country wake up? Would we have let the Nazi's set up shop during WWII?

 
At 12/04/2005 10:42 PM, Blogger LA Sunset said...

"Americans are woefully ignorant of world history. The first time that most Americans seriously considered the term Islamic terrorism was after the World Trade Center caved in. And then, after a few months of whoop-de-do artificial patriotism, they settled back to their usual mundane worries over gasoline prices, credit card balances and watching fantasy shows on television."

Another good find, AOW.

In reference to the above excerpt, I have to say that this is strikingly true.

But, while there are many that see and understand this threat, there are still those that ignore it (for many different reasons).

These people fall into two categories.

The first category is made up of the people that are honestly blind about the whole situation. They don't know any better, they listen to the lies and distortions, and they believe them; because, they are convinced that George Bush is this evil person that has caused all of this. But, they honestly believe it, because they honestly don't know any better. They do not have the analytical skills to think it through on their own.

The second consists of the ones that create the lies and distortions that these people believe. They hate George Bush and will stop at nothing to discredit him, for politcal purposes only. These are they that care only about getting back into power, after being rejected by the electorate, and they do not care one ounce about this country.

I am afraid that the only thing that will awaken many people is another attack. In many cases, complacency is the cause of people falling into a sleep, when they should be awake. But many will never awaken, even at that.

But all that said, the person that generates the lies and distortions is guilty of the greater offense. They know the truth and yet still, they choose to deceive.

As long as these people exist, CAIR (and other like it) will have allies that will help them advance their deceptive agenda. They will see the weaknesses and most certainly will exploit them.

 
At 12/04/2005 11:56 PM, Blogger beakerkin said...

Always

I sense that the next time we are attacked something ugly will be unleashed. The media knows it and even in NYC non political types are fed up.

When we get hit again do not be shocked if there is some counter violence. This did occur in the Netherlands where Mosques were torched. No I do not seek or wish violence but the games of CAIR are stoking the flames.A long time ago they should have denounced the 9-11 aeeacks but they played word games.

Even in VT among anti war types there is an anger at the Muslim community. The anti war types up here are not the commie left.

 
At 12/05/2005 4:47 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our role is to scream and to educate.
Of course at the present we are mostly "preaching" to the already converted.
More exposure to the broader public is needed very badly but this requires resources and much stronger combined effort.

 
At 12/05/2005 8:42 AM, Blogger Timothy Birdnow said...

Great letter, AOW; I can see why CAIR is angry about it-it exposes Islamic behavior (and our own).

I fear it`s going to take something far worse before America is awakened to the danger.

 
At 12/05/2005 10:57 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Wouldn't CAIR do better by responding to "the charges" against Islam and Islamism ("radical Islam")?

CAIR's lack of open discussion and attempts to censor media (Remember Michael Graham? The lawsuit against Andrew Whitehead of Anti-CAIR?) lead to several possible conclusions, several of which are expressed earlier here in the comments section.

And that hijab doctoring on the part of CAIR makes CAIR look the fool--and worse. I hope that everyone has a look at that link, which is included in the above article.

I also recall CAIR giving support to Ahmed Abu Ali. I have a November 30, 2005 article on this site about Abu Ali. If CAIR purports to be an organization supportive of America, why hasn't CAIR come out in specific condemnation of Abu Ali, now that he has been convicted?

 
At 12/05/2005 12:35 PM, Blogger G_in_AL said...

I just watched that movie "Kingdom of Heaven"... what a great piece of fiction. I seriously like the part where the "evil Christins" were inciting a war (even thought they held all the power?), and only the Christian that thought the Church was a bunch of hoo-ey knew better.

Meanwhile, the Muslims in all their patient splendor, finally could take no more and were forced to attack and kill every last Christian soldier, then march to Jeruselem herself. Again, this brave anti-church Christian defied the weasle like clergy and fought so bravely that the Muslims decided to let them live. And then in their genorasity, as the nice anti-church Christian points out, the Muslims allow the women and children, along with the soldiers all go alive to the sea. This was (as the anti-Church Christian pointed out) very unlike the earlier Christians that killed everyone in the city when they took it.

What I found most amusing, what that the Muslims only had one person among them who was blood thursty, and he only over recapturing Jeruselem... but those evil Christians, they sure just wanted to kill folks....

Did CAIR help produce that movie?

 
At 12/05/2005 2:09 PM, Blogger Esther said...

What a fabulous letter. Too bad it will fall mostly on deaf ears. Great find tho!

I love the name of the article you linked to at the bottom of this post. I think most of us here would nod our heads in agreement.

 
At 12/05/2005 4:25 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

AOW,
"Many of CAIR's articles focus on what Muslims find offensive."

Muslims find (instructed by the Qur'an) all things which we, infidels do offensive.
There is no room for us and the true followers of Allah under the same roof.

BTW, I followed the Hijab "cover up" (no pun intended) from the beginning.
It was very telling, but it was totally ignored by the dhimmis running the MSM.

 
At 12/05/2005 5:06 PM, Blogger American Crusader said...

Unfortunately many of the claims made by the author are correct. For a small minority of Americans, 9/11 is still very fresh in their memories, but for others it has all but disappeared. The media would rather cover Cindy Sheehan then the parents of other soldiers who are proud their children served and serve this country. I don't think the author was aware that CAIR supports international terrorist groups. Anti-CAIR has proven that in court. Also the founders of CAIR have made their intentions very clear right from the beginning: wanting to make Islam the supreme religion of America and implementing Sharia law.

 
At 12/05/2005 5:07 PM, Blogger American Crusader said...

Unfortunately many of the claims made by the author are correct. For a small minority of Americans, 9/11 is still very fresh in their memories, but for others it has all but disappeared. The media would rather cover Cindy Sheehan then the parents of other soldiers who are proud their children served and serve this country. I don't think the author was aware that CAIR supports international terrorist groups. Anti-CAIR has proven that in court. Also the founders of CAIR have made their intentions very clear right from the beginning: wanting to make Islam the supreme religion of America and implementing Sharia law.

 
At 12/05/2005 5:26 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Crusader is so correct!

Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.
-Omar Ahmad, Co-founder of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)

I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future...But I'm not going to do anything violent to promote that. I'm going to do it through education.
-Ibrahim Hooper, CAIR Spokesperson

 
At 12/06/2005 8:25 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

AOW,
Have you read this by any chance?

http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/1294

 
At 12/07/2005 8:11 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

G,
I need to look at Kingdom of Heaven. My Christmas break is coming, so I'll pick up a copy at the video store. I'll go through the credits to see what I can find.

One never knows how much influence CAIR has over media. CAIR often works behind the scenes.

 
At 12/07/2005 8:15 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Felis,
I'll read that link when my work schedule eases off later this week. I've already had a glance, and the material looks interesting.

 
At 12/07/2005 8:25 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Duck,
Beak's pathetic "anti-semite" rantings which you cheer lead from time to time.
But Beak isn't censoring your comments. CAIR might if your position opposed theirs. And, truly, I don't do that much cheerleading, at least as not much cheerleading as you do criticizing.

If the far right religious elements can take criticism.... they haven't shown it.
Some do, most don't. Frankly, I don't have much respect for any who don't take part in reasoned discussion. The left, far or not, doesn't take criticism particularly well, from what I've observed.

On one hand you are surprised when a muslim says he wouldn't be upset if the government were muslim (does that surprise you?) and on the other you have no apparent qualms about psycho Protestant "dominionists" meeting with the Bush administration and Opus Dei members on the Supreme Court.
I oppose dominioists in general. And if a Muslim government would violate American ideals, such as the free speech we exercise here, I think such is a very serious matter. In addition, you've conveniently ignored some of the shady connections that various officials at CAIR have.
And I thought you didn't like Saudi connections? How much funding from Saudi does CAIR accept?

 
At 12/07/2005 8:29 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Samwich,
Don't worry about offending me. The information in that link is downright disgusting. Ick!

 
At 12/07/2005 8:31 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Bill,
I can live with atheists, how come they cannot live with me??
That's how I feel! I leave it to the Lord to make judgments, but I want my right to practice my faith, as in the First Amendment.

But some are so easily offended, aren't they? I have a difficult time understanding that.

 
At 12/07/2005 8:41 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Bassizzzt,
You make quite a point there. Satire? Or the reality?

 
At 12/07/2005 9:50 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

About Al-Arian (I couldn't get the link to the Washington Post to work for today's, December 7's, article entitled "Fla. Professor is Acquitted in Case Seen as Patriot Act Test," but I have the hard copy in hand):
The trial was a crucial test of government power under the USA Patriot Act...The accusations were based on 20,000 hours of phone conversations and hundreds of faxes secretly monitored beginning in 1993...

Outside the courtroom, Ahmed Bedier, regional director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), a Muslim civil rights group, praised the al-Arian verdict. Al-Arial, a Kuwaiti-born Palestinian, had become a controversial symbol for advocates of academic and speech freedom and for American Muslims who support the Palestinian cause...

"This sends a very positive message that Muslims can receive a fair trial in America."


One juror has stated that the government just didn't make the case.

But, yes, the outcome is a big oops, as Duck put it, but not just with regard to detention. My concern is that more funding of terroris connected and more call for the overthrow of our government will continue to come from the classrooms in the universities here. And while I don't know all the details of the Al-Arian case, those are my concerns.

In FPM @
http://frontpagemag.com/
Articles/
ReadArticle.asp?ID=20461 , Joe Kaufman, who attended the trial, said the following:
This case was a big blow for the war on terrorism. Although most Americans are attuned to what's happening in Iraq, they may have missed what's going on right in their own country. Sami al-Arian was a major player on the wrong side of this war. Because someone like him – someone who was so blatantly involved in terrorism – was acquitted, the Justice Department may think twice before bringing future terror cases to trial. And that undoubtedly will embolden the enemy.

No doubt about it, IMO: our government has a mixed message and a mixed policy when coming to terrorism. The Post article goes into some detail on that inconsistency.

As Bill points out, several admins have buddied up to Saudi. Saudi's attempts to curtail Wahhabism are pretty much nominal, and our relationship with Saudi is indeed akin to a dangerous and fatal disease.

 
At 12/07/2005 9:56 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Bill,
Obviously, you know plenty of details about political chicanery. I'm glad to see that Samwich has so acknowledged.

Like you, I'm not a Bush-bot! I agree with him on some matters, but I'm very unhappy about the Saudi connection and the immigration "solutions." One would think, because GWB will not be again running for Prez, that he would be less concerned about political correctness.

 
At 12/07/2005 10:12 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Here's the link for the Washington Post story (free registration required):
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp-dyn/content/article/
2005/12/06/AR2005120601012_pf.html

 
At 12/07/2005 11:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

AOW,
"One would think, because GWB will not be again running for Prez, that he would be less concerned about political correctness."

This is something I cannot understand at all.
Well I am an outsider but still...

 
At 12/08/2005 8:13 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Samwich,
I've notified several. Yes, communication is power.

I wonder if some lefties see bestiality as a cultural variant?

 
At 12/08/2005 8:20 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Duck,
Well, I don't have that quandary. My cousin-in-law does all that kind of work for a living and doesn't hire illegals, or much of anybody else except for his buddies at the VFW.

I will agree with you that most immigrants are very hard workers, and I commend their work ethic. But you know how I feel about illegal immigrants. For me, it's a matter of law.

Truly, I'm glad to hear that the wind is no longer whistling through your house. We should all conserve energy, if for no other reason than to prevent the Saudis from lining their pockets.

My fireplace is in use this season, for the first time in some 40 years. This house is over 60 years old and leaks like a sieve. But at least I don't have to worry about radon.

 
At 12/08/2005 8:29 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Bill,
I just have an old victorian on a postage stamp in the largest ghost town in America.
Sounds nice, though.

Care to enlighten us on the Trilateral Commission and the CFR? For starters, anyway.

Political treason!
Agreed, but many don't see it so, in part because of a lack of understanding of the Founding principles. Isn't the old quote something about hanging together or certainly hanging separately?

And, of course, Benjamin Franklin said, "A republic, if you can keep it." I wonder what he would say were he to see the situation today.

 
At 12/08/2005 8:34 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Bill,
We were posting at the same time. No criticism implied in my comment.

We've heard the same thing about "one-world government," but I, too, don't recall the details. Maybe Samwich will enlighten us.

 
At 12/09/2005 11:32 AM, Blogger G_in_AL said...

How do you manage these tangents AOW? Well, you've got Duck jumping in trying to give us his "class" on social compassion and "realities" of the world. Bill trying to expouse his vast knowledge on limited subjects in hopes of impacting our outlook on certain facets of the government, and the ever present samwich giving us inside glimpes into the ultimate of the so-called black helicopter theory.

By the way, S, your ying/yang lefty counterpart is the one who believes "The Matrix" was not fiction (albeit your theories/ideas/beliefs are actually possible and believable)

I guess this either speaks volumes about your posting content, your posting style, or the people that it attracts. Either way, good job by you.

Happy Friday.

 
At 12/09/2005 2:11 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

G,
I don't know that I have talent for promoting tangents or for attracting certain people, but I LIKE to think that some of the discussions here result from my being a teacher who really enjoys "hosting" heated and insightful discussions. Those classes with vibrant discussions are the highlight of my teaching day.

And I enjoy reading all the comments here--even Duck's--and especially the tangents because many are educational for me personally. I've always loved learning new things!

Unfortunately, Christmas preparations (Hooray! After six days of the tree sitting here with lights only, I have now placed on the first round of ornaments), doctors' appointments, grading papers, and catching up on end-of-year, postponed bookkeeeping matters interfere with my responding to each and every comment--and with commenting when I make my blog rounds as well. But I AM still making rounds, insofar as is possible.

Local fact: One teenager here killed both his father and mother and cited The Matrix as his "reason." I didn't personally know this boy, but one of my colleagues did.

 
At 12/09/2005 2:15 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Bill and Samwich,
Continue on, if you care to. I have some work and Christmas preparations to attend to. Be assured that should either of you post any links, I'll check them out.

 
At 12/09/2005 2:17 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

G,
I forgot to mention that I've noticed some lengthy numbers of comments at your site this week. Over the weekend, I'll make time to read through those discussions.

 
At 12/09/2005 8:39 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Samwich,
Kudos to you for your tough-skinned approach to the abuse you receive when presenting the truth. I've chuckled over your comment for much of today. Right attitude!

 

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