"Appeasement Danish Style"
"While most media accounts of the "cartoon jihad" focused on the publication of the cartoons, and on the ensuing violent reaction by some Muslims -- who were depicted by the much of the press as victims! -- few reporters have ventured to describe the increasingly hostile climate that Muslim extremists had succeeded in creating in Denmark before the publication...."Go read the rest at American Crusader's site.
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posted by Always On Watch @ 4/03/2006 11:30:00 AM
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88 Comments:
My, my, my - you're still on the cartoons? What are you, 7 years old?
Are you aware that important things are happening in the world? More important, I dare say, than a few racist cartoonists working for a newspaper that toes the facist line of the facist party running a European white-supremacist enclave.
Helicoptors going down in Iraq, GI Joes dying in Afghanistan, GM breaking every promise they've ever made to their workers, capital flight running away from the greenback, an immigrant uprising, general strikes in France, and another leftist victory in another South American election.
I mean, there's so much out there for you to prattle and whine about.
And you choose cartoons.
That tells us something about you, doesn't it?
John Brown...how long as your food been prepared according to Islamic standards for food preparation?
Before jumping to conclusions, at least read the entire post.
I read what AoW posted, which focussed on the cartoon nonsense.
Your post is more of the same uncited, unsourced, uncorrobated nonsense that has led to the ass-kicking Uncle Sam's taking in Iraq.
Then what do you care, john b? If it's all just "so much nonsense", why are you even bothering to post about it?
Terror is a very interesting business. While some rustlers like to imitate the cowboys singing their songs, they're really just forcing the cattle to huddle closer together while the other group prepares to light a fire and start a stampede. And I see that like a "good" cowboy you've got your water bucket out, just in case. Better make sure you don't get burned (for your "flight plan" to Venezuela has already been filed, hasn't it? Rustlers are such "boasters").
btw - I suspect that the bucket of water you "appear" to be carrying contains some liquid other than water in it. Stalin used to carry one, too.
-FJ
ps - So, how about that property, john b.? If you didn't see anything you liked there, I've got a million more just like 'em ALL over the Orinoco and Amazon basins. But if you want to be where the "real" action is, you might want to also rent a shack... errrr... "condo" in Havana as well. You know how hectic "shuttle diplomacy" can be.
-FJ
IranProp,
I don't have to acclaim my own intelligence. You affirm it in relief.
Shouldn't you be focusing on your plot to slaughter Persians? It's been a rough couple weeks - they need your head in the game!
See, behind my words, I have facts. And the facts right now, for Uncle Sam's little cheerleaders, ain't good:
Iran sends a message to the West by boasting about its high-speed torpedo
"Iran announced that it has carried out successful test-firings of the world's fastest torpedo, capable of outrunning any warship.
"The message was intended as a signal to western military planners considering attacks to deal with Iran's nascent nuclear capability."
Maybe all the pro-attack-Iran blogs can get together and have a fundraiser for water wings!
speaking of cartoons - aow - remember the stick person remark? check your e-mail.
tooshay mussolini!
Just a quick interjection here, and then I'll go back to grading some papers...
My blog, my choice of topics. I post what interests me.
If you want news stories, go to news sites. This blog does not pretend to be a news site.
Back to my chore now...
Isnt it amazing that Brownie twists things around. AC and AOW complain about how silly it is for Muslim extremists riot over cartoons and Brownie says that they are crying over spilt milk.
If they are crying over nothing then what are the rioters crying about?
Please put everything in right context...FASCIST
Big Deal,
Torpedoes travel 45-55 knots, while battleships cruise at 35-40 tops. That's why they incorporate anti-torpedo technology.
Well guys one of our contributors is a Dane.
He post his Danish news item on our news headlines sections.
He's got his own blog as well but it's mostly in Danish.
Denmark needs support, it is only a small nation and they took on a lot of Muslim refugees, who now are trying to take advantage of their laws to incorporate Denmark into Dar al Islam.
john brown said "When you're a serious person reading a dozen newspapers a day, you need a little levity in your life...
I'm afraid you need a little more than that, john... I think you actually need some "seriousness".
Nietszche, "Untimely Meditations, Schopenhauer - The Philosopher as Educator"
Whoever is seeking to answer the question of what the philosopher as educator can mean in our time has to contest this view, which is very widespread and is propagated in our universities; he must declare: it is a downright scandal that such nauseating, idolatrous flattery can be rendered to our time by supposedly thinking and honorable men--a proof that one no longer has the slightest notion how different the seriousness of philosophy is from the seriousness of a newspaper. Such men have lost the last remnant not only of a philosophical but also of a religious mode of thinking, and in their place have acquired not even optimism but journalism, the spirit and spiritlessness of our day and our daily papers. Every philosophy which believes that the problem of existence is touched on, not to say solved, by a political event is a joke- and pseudo-philosophy. Many states have been founded since the world began; that is an old story. How should a political innovation suffice to turn men once and for all into contented inhabitants of the earth? But if anyone really does believe in this possibility he ought to come forward, for he truly deserves to become a professor of philosophy at a German university, like Harms in Berlin, Jürgen Meyer in Bonn and Carrière in Munich.
-FJ
I'm so glad that john has "facts" and not "religion". That's makes him absolutely clueless as to the nature of his own "intelligence" and "knowledge".
Let the amusement....continue. It'll be a riot when john actually begins to perceive the narrow confines of his own, self-imposed head-coffin.
-FJ
...and speaking of "facts", have you all seen the new "stealth flying boat" that the Iranians have developed?
I mean, they gotta launch those torpedoes "somehow", don't they?
-FJ
I can't imagine where the idea came from (or the engineers, for that matter).
-FJ
Must of bought it at the same place they bought their new torpedo. Don't 'ya just love all that new technology? Keeps all my buddies employed.
-FJ
We can only hope the Iranians have better luck with it than those poor suckers on the Kursk did.
-FJ
What did happen to the Kursk?
Oh yeah, now I remember. LOL!
-FJ
FJ,
It's nice to see someone posting something other than anti-Muslim bile. Thanks for helping to change the dynamic away from the usual here: racial bigotry and blinding hatred of Arabs.
Really? I though I was simply doing a little "Ruskie bashing" w/ a side of "Iranian technological incompetence" thrown in for good measure.
You know us rascist bigots. We can't get enough of that blind hatred.
But just to change the dynamic back...
Osama bin Laden was inspecting a recon company in a remote post in the desert of Iraq. During his first walk around the camp, he noticed a camel hitched up behind Osama's tent. He asked the local imam why the camel is kept there.
"Well sir," was the nervous reply, "as you know, there are 250 men here and no women.
And sir, sometimes the men have ..m-m-m.... urges.
That's why we have the camel."
Osama then said, "I can't say that I condone this, but I understand about urges, so the camel can stay."
About a month later, Osama started having a real problem with his own urges. Crazy with passion, he asked the terrorist on duty to bring the camel to his tent. Putting his Koran behind the camel, Osmama stood on it, and had wild, insane s*x with the camel.
When he was done, he asked the local imam, "Is that how the men do it?"
"Uh, no sir," the local imam replied.
"They usually just ride the camel into town where the girls are."
Happy now?
-FJ
There you go, FJ. Much better than trying to act like you understand Nietzsche.
Since the CIA tells USAma where to go and what to do, perhaps they, not the imam, put the camels there.
Aftter all, we all know the Uncle Sam's little GI Joes have all sorts of sexual perverts running around raping anything that moves.
On May 22, 2003, in Baghdad, a nine-year-old girl was abducted from the stairs of the building where she lived, taken to an abandoned building nearby, and raped. A family friend who saw the young girl immediately following the rape informed international human rights groups.
The report quotes the family friend, "She was sitting on the stairs, here, at 4:00 p.m. It seems to me that probably they hit her on the back of the head with a gun and then took her to [a neighboring] building. She came back fifteen minutes later, bleeding [from the vaginal area]. [She was still bleeding two days later, so] we took her to the hospital."
A human rights group saw a copy of the medical report by the U.S. military doctor who treated the baby girl six days later. The report documented bruising in the vaginal area, a posterior vaginal tear, and a broken hymen. Lieutenant Monica Casmaer, a physician’s assistant attached to a U.S. military unit, examined the nine year old girl. with the pediatrician. She described the injuries as fairly severe, especially given the time that had elapsed before she was examined.
Ducky I have an interesting concept that I hope you can learn from. When you make an accusation you need to have evidence to back it up.
Many people in this blog, including myself, accuse Islamists of intolerance and assert that they are prone to violence. Some critics differ and say that the problem exists in the Western world. Therefore, we must provide proof (as much as our critics need to do). These riots reveal a pattern in Islamist fundamentalism that is relevant and timely to this discussion.
The problems began when some Danish Imams went on a tour of the Middle East calling for action against Denmark (ironically this took place a couple of months after the publication of the offending cartoons). The spokesperson for the group threatened to bomb a member of the Danish Parliament and the group itself spread false information regarding the cartoons (showing a picture of a pig squealing contest and falsely stating that it was one of the published cartoons).
Despite several apologies from the Danish newspaper that published the cartoons there were numerous bomb threats and attacks on their website (as well as hundreds of other such threats on Scandinavian organizations). This was followed by riots that broke out throughout the Muslim world. There were riots in Morocco, Libya, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Kenya, Nigeria, Somalia and Indonesia. Please note that these are locations that I can verify that there was violence, there were many more demonstrations that included flag burnings and threats of violence, but I could not verify any actual acts of rioting in those instances and did not include them in this list.
I don’t know of anyone who has tallied the death toll from the riots but I can tell you that at least 127 people were killed in Nigeria, about 11 in Libya, 9 in Afghanistan, an unknown amount in Pakistan and a Catholic Priest, Andrea Santoro, was murdered while praying in a Turkish church as revenge for the cartoons (there were some other deaths but this list is not complete). Embassies were attacked, looted and damaged in Beirut, Damascus and Tehran.
The scope of the violence was far ranging and completely out of proportion to its catalyst. Particularly disturbing was the fact that Islamists were so willing to blame and target innocent parties with little of no connection to the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten. Collective victimization of a country and its citizens for the actions of this newspaper should be unacceptable. Especially in light of Islamists propensity for this kind of behavior.
Ducky you stated, “What you should pay attention to freedomnow is the fact that the cartoons are sooooo last season. Nobody except right wing blogs and right wing rabies radio mentions them.”
First off, it is sad that the Left is afraid to address Islamic extremism. Secondly, this is a current event. The riots continued as recently as one month ago. March 4th 40,000 people marched in Pakistan with some rock throwing and the usual slogans like “Hang those who insulted the prophet” and “Death to America” (even though, our major newspapers never even published the cartoons), 20,000 protested in Turkey on the same day.
On March 29th the Swedish foreign minister was denied entry into the genocidal country of Sudan in direct retaliation for the cartoons.
On March 30th A group of 27 Danish Muslim organizations filed a defamation lawsuit against the Jyllands-Posten newspaper over the cartoons.
Yesterday March 3rd Sudan blocked a top UN humanitarian official because he is Norwegian in yet another cartoon retaliation.
…I hope that your effort to whitewash this current event is due to ignorance and is not intentional…
John Brown,
Please provide proof that the CIA gives orders to bin Laden.
I'm not your research assistant, 'freedomnow'. Look it up yourself.
Uncle Sam created the whole little CRAZY MOOOOOOOSLEM al-CIAda conspiracy.
When people like MafiaDon, Cheney, Sambo Rice and the gang spout their fairy tale nonsene about Zarqawi and alCIAda, they're blowin' smoke right up your ass. But I guess some guys (and gals, right 'nanc'?) like that sort of thing.
john,
So, please what's the source for your info on this, the Koran or sworn testimony from Tawana Hakima?
After all, you be 'da man wif 'da FAX.
btw - Is poppin' the cherries of nine year olds a crime in your book? It isn't in theirs.
-FJ
I don't know why you're flapping your lips, FJ, considering that Uncle Sam's little stormtrooper military can't get enough of raping and murdering children.
With the exception of Apartheid Israel, nobody even comes close to the way Uncle Sam rapes, murders, and tortures kids.
Hell, here on the Plantation doing so is called government policy. Hoo-rah.
btw - Iraq was just a regular Garden of Eden under Saddam. Hey but then, what's the "American" record when compared to his? Or that of the "opposition (warning, graphic images)"
-FJ
And who armed ol'Saddam? Ronnie the Crip. He gave him chemical and biological weapons.
Who was his liason? MafiaDon.
If there's death and destruction being sold, rest assured that Uncle Sam is the pusherman.
Just like USAma's alCIAda.
BTW, it's hysterical that the Uncle Sam's State department thinks it has the right to judge others.
Sad, but funny.
JoBro,
Let me see if I understand you correctly.
The CIA has tricked fundamentalist Muslims into backing Osama Bin Laden with mind control lasers?
Oh, the source wasn't even Tawana. It was john brown's own perverted little mind. No surprise there. I bet you spend a lot of time making up all kinds of tales for the alt.sex newsgroup. Do you write serials for them?
You like the ones about powerful men in uniforms, don't you? Do they where their hats in your fantasies john? Do they carry little "swagger-sticks" and beat you with them?
I hate to tell you this john, but here we don't spend our afternoons fantasizing about swagger-sticks and dreaming about raping little girls. Have a good day.
-FJ
Brownie,
You cant support your arguments can you? The reason I posed that challenge to you is because I have researched the issue from the Leftwing point of view and havent found any credible links between the CIA and bin Laden.
You are like a three legged dog. You wobble around, baring your teeth, but you are just a joke...
as tazz would say, "looks like a moonbat has flown through and dropped a load of brownieboy guano!" only in tazztalk.
oy, the verbosity!
Nanc said, looks like a moonbat has flown through and dropped a load of brownieboy guano!"
So I see! I hope that I don't have to start using comment moderation because that punishes everyone. I am reticent to do so, but might have to.
John Brown is stuck on the same tune; I'm getting bored with it. Coming home from work, only to read comments singing the same worn tune is tedious.
Mussolini,
Beamish has such wit.
Have you seen some of his art over at his site? Don't have a beverage in your hand when you look. I've given you fair warning. Hehehe.
You also must read Beamish's Guide to Handling the Koran.
Treat yourself, and take a look at some of Beamish's archives.
FJ,
Some people have twisted fantasies. As Warren mentioned, they are the obscene-phone-callers of the net. I have decided not to talk to them.
FJ,
Addendum: You, of course, can talk to whomever you please. I simply don't have time to waste on futility.
No reflection on you, of course, FJ. You have been a good friend to this blog.
Mussolini,
I became rabidly anti-left shortly after Sept. 11th, when Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich introduced a bill which attempted to prohibit development and deployment of orbital mind control lasers, a technology I feel is vital to America's defense.
beamish,
I've only one word for your "Guide to handling the Koran"...."Priceless".
-FJ
FJ,
Good research there!
How perverted a mind must one have to blame those rapes on America? What contorted logic...?
Perhaps psychosis?
Como siempre, your diagnosis is "spot on".
-FJ
Censor away, AoW. I fully expect it. Then you can be like CensorMan the Leftist!
How do you think Osama got the weapons to fight in Afghanistan? From who did they come? Or did they fall from the sky? Are you actually denying that Uncle Sam funded and trained alCIAda?
Censorman, Uncle Sam has been working with alCIAda for 2 decades. That you choose to ignore it, that you refuse to follow the money or the connections - sounds like a 'leftist'.
Hell, Uncle Sam even paid $100,000 to your favorite Beastie Boy-loving, Infidel girlfriend-having patsy, Muhammed Atta. Got any more leftist fairy tales you want to spin?
As for the raping, Uncle Sam is legendary. They rape girls, they rape women. They rape female soldiers, they rape military students.
In fact, besides murder and torture, rape seems to be their highest priority:
Defend your rapist heros
Defend your rapist heros
Defend your rapist heros
GI Joes Rape
GI Joes Rape
And then of course, there's the legendary special about how women are oppressed in the military published by the pro-war Denver Post
And when it's not them raping, it's the death squads they arm, train, and order around.
And like I said, when Uncle Sam's not raping and killing, it's torturing.
FJ,
The real problem in this fading republic is incidental to the police or those they frame up.
The real problem is that we live in a place where the biggest murderers, killers and gangsters make the laws.
They're the people to whom you pledge absolute, unwavering loyalty like a good fascist foot-soldier.
conspeorists abound.
john,
Sounds like all we have to do in this Republic is crack down on the perverts and progressive miscreants like yourself and all of those problems you cite will disappear overnight.
Might be a piece of advice well worth taking. Thanks for offering john brown. Don't let the screen door hit you on the behind on your way out.
Oh, and here's a piece of advice from me to you. Given the current state of FISA regulations, you might want to exercise a little care to "vet" your sources. You never know who might be listening.
-FJ
fj said, "Don't let the screen door hit you on the behind on your way out."
nanc says, "yeah, it may give you a headache."
FJ,
Regardless of whether you choose to face up to the fact that Uncle Sam's little toy soldiers are serial rapists and murderers, it still has the serious ass-kicking they're taking in Iraq to deal with.
So I wouldn't say that fixing the mysogynistic nature of Uncle Sam's Empire will clear up your problems.
The Iraqi resistance and Comrade Hugo will make damn sure of that.
The two aren't totally disconnected, but even if Sam stopped raping and torturing today, Cut'N'Run Sam will still be cowering in their little bases. Whenever they stray from their little barricaded walls, they get stuffed in Head Coffins.
And also, do you really think I'm unaware that COINTELPRO Sam spies on its own citizens? What do you think - the Constitution still means something to these lying brigands on Capitol Hill?
I think you might be right, nanc! No need to assume normal human anatomy.
-FJ
Hey Brownie,
Is that your proof that the CIA gives orders to bin Laden,...that the CIA supplied him weapons during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan?
Your crackerjack research cant even compare to a second grader's current events report, not even in a special education class.
It is a fact that the CIA had no direct contacts with the mujahedeen in Afghanistan. There was contact with Pakistani intelligence officers, but never directly between the two.
You dont have any concrete evidence do you?
Viva Che!!! XOXOXOXO
JoBro,
When I was in elementary school, I was given an intelligence test and it was determined that my IQ is in the "gifted" to the lower end of "genius" range. In 4th grade, I tested out with college level reading comprehension.
It's highly unlikely, given the early discovery of my intellect, that I've ever uttered anything that people might mistake for leftism.
Freedomnow,
How many times do I have to say that you can do your own research? The fact that the CIA created, funded, armed, and conspired with alCIAda is something readily available in both the congressional record as well as free on the internet.
That you shuck and jive around Uncle Sam's role when the very people who did the dirty work have written books bragging about it says quite a lot about your scholarly rigor and your ability to avoid the factual record when it conflicts with Cheney-worship.
And then we've got Benito ignoring Uncle Sam's well-documented history of rape, torture, and mass slaughter with chemcical and nuclear weapons by redirecting the discussion to every wingnuts favorite the invisible man, Zarqawi. Of course he doesn't need proof to believe that Z-man was running around Iraq beheading people. All it takes is the blowhard liar Rummy saying so... the only proof Hitler's ally needs is the word of a chronic liar.
He's swallowed too much castor oil!
Censorman,
Stop bothering me with your leftist tripe. Don't you have someone to censor?
Censorman,
Is it really true that in 4th grade, in addition to testing well, you were also raped by one of Uncle Sam's little GI Joes?
Hmmm, the smoke's getting a little thick in here. Can you spare a gas mask beamish?
-FJ
much verbal flatulence for sure f.j.
Hey nanc, if you had just suffered a complete credibility rout, wouldn't you launch a few smoke cannisters to impair your enemies visbility and help stave off the inevitable cavalry pursuit? It's just a shame that verbal and chemical obscurants aren't covered under the Geneva Convention like most other "offensive" weapons.
-FJ
I love the "censorship" screams... Help's keep all the smoke over the battlefield. Kinda reminds me of the cries from "no man's land" after the first day at Verdun and the Somme. To me it sounds like....
Victory
-FJ
JoBro,
You can post freely on anyone's blog. You're not censored. However, if you wish to post on my blog, and have those new posts remain, you need to correctly label your screeds as produced by a moron. It's not as if I'm asking you to be dishonest. I realize honesty isn't a leftist's forte, but at least you can be honest about your stupidity, as often as you have heard about it from credible witnesses.
From a purely psychological standpoint, I am curious about how you manage to cheerlead for terrorists you believe are controlled by the CIA?
Is is really so hard to admit you're a blithering idiot?
Victory sure takes a strange form, FJ.
If your refusal to recognize that Uncle Sam created, armed, and trained alCIAda represents victory, congrats are in order!"
Censorman,
When leftists like yourself cheerlead for Bush, MafiaDon, Sambo and the gang, you're cheering for alCIAda, too.
Just like you cheer for Uncle Sam's death squads in Iraq running around blowing up mosques.
Don't you work for DHS, don't you Censorman?
This isn't you by any chance, is it?
"The deputy press secretary for the Department of Homeland Security was arrested last night on charges that he used the Internet to seduce an undercover Florida sheriff's detective who he thought was a 14-year-old girl, the Polk County Sheriff's Office said.
You are incoherent brownie. To help you understand what I mean I have included the definition for you:
Incoherent (adj.) - Unable to think or express one’s thoughts in a clear or orderly manner
Your incoherence is the result of your inability to respond to my request for proof of your ridiculous accusations.
Intelligent debate is not a requirement in your Marxist paradise and it’s a good thing for you…
Not your research assistant. Check the government record. Read newspapers. Check out a library.
plucky said,
"Good lord, even Mr. Ducky, the censor's nightmare, the nonpareil of trolls wishes that John Brown would tie a can on it."
loooooovvvvve it!
So is anyone who disagrees with a Leftist automatically labeled a “Censor”? I didn’t delete anyone’s post or ban anyone either.
If you don’t agree with me that’s your problem, not mine. It doesn’t make you a censor.
You said that the CIA gives orders to bin Laden. All I asked is how you came to such a conclusion when there are no credible sources to verify such an accusation in any govt record, newspaper or library. You insist that there is but wont reference such evidence.
Is intelligent debate so hard?
Freedom Now,
Is intelligent debate so hard?
Looks that way.
When commenters get banned from site after site, they are restricted to fewer sites and vomit forth more bile.
Duck,
Good lord, even Mr. Ducky, the censor's nightmare, the nonpareil of trolls wishes that John Brown would tie a can on it.
LOL. You are indeed the nonpareil of trolls. LOL again.
FJ,
It's hard to see through all the smoke, but I think your assessment is correct.
FJ,
Si yo tenga razon, no hay esperanza para "el enfermo."
No voy a conversar con el. Por supuesto, otros pueden si las palabras no me enojen.
No voy a tirrar mas petroleo en ese fuego. Como usted, yo no tengo suficiente tiempo por este mundo para coversar con mentirosos sin honor. Lo siento por lo que hizo.
-FJ
FJ,
Lo siento por lo que hizo.
"Hizo" o "hice"?
Ud. no necesita decir Lo siento. Ud. es amigo de este lugar.
This is intriguing, JoBro. The government records are honest, but the CIA agents running the mind control lasers that make fundamentalist Muslims support Al Qaida aren't?
Been pillaging the medicine cabinet again?
¿Dónde está su tarjeta verde?
Mr. Beamish,
I needed that smile before I signed off tonight. Thanks!
Su Secretaria de Educacion habla un poco de espanol. Pero no se hacer acentos con el computador. Lo aprendere este verano cuando tendre mas tiempo. :)
j'aime le golf plus de deux papier hygiénique d'épaisseur!
Tomé dos años de español en la preparatoria, pero eso estaba sobre hace veinte años.
Both...and beamish, you are simply one surprise after another. Like I've said before, "you've got my vote."
-FJ
FJ,
Both.
You are a gentleman. Not to worry.
Beamish rules!
FJ,
If I don't know something, I at least know how to learn it. :)
I never think to use Babel Fish, or the like. That non-computer upbringing I had. ;)
Knowing where to find the information is key!
I'm not sure that I'd trust the BBC as a reliable source. Confirmation? Links?
Duck will, however, allude to what happened in the Ukraine.
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