Guillermo Sobrero And Abu Sayyaf
(All emphases by Always On Watch)
Do the names in the title of this blog article mean anything to you? Ring any bells?
The following brief item appeared in the Sunday, April 30, 2006 Washington Post:
"MANILA -- Military intelligence agents captured a second militant allegedly involved in the abduction of three Americans, including a missionary couple, from a resort five years ago. Abdasil Malangka Dima, an alleged member of Abu Sayyaf, a Muslim extremist group linked to al-Qaeda, was captured in Basilan province, the military said.I didn't wake up until September 11, 2001, and did not recognize the names in the above news item, though I vaguely recalled the names Martin and Gracia Burnham.
"Dima allegedly was involved in the abduction of Martin and Gracia Burnham, from Wichita, Kan., tourist Guillermo Sobero of Corona, Calif., and 17 Filipinos in 2001. Sobero was beheaded and Martin Burnham was killed during an army rescue mission."
A quick Internet search of the name "Guillermo Sobrero" yielded a June 12, 2001 report of his beheading. Excerpt from the June 12, 2001 article about the beheading of Sobrero:
“'Look for his head in Tuburan,' spokesman Abu Sabaya said.... "My Internet search also yielded the following 2003 blog article which contained an excerpt from Gracia Burnham's book In the Presence of My Enemies:
"Sabaya told the radio station: 'As an independence day gift we released an amigo, Guillermo Sobrero, but he doesn’t have a head now.'
"Today is the 103rd anniversary of the Philippines’ declaration of independence from Spain.
"Sabaya said there would be no more negotiations.
"'There is no reason why we should not behead the others,' he said...."
"'… I was watching a group of the remaining captors as they horsed around with each other, just having fun. Somebody pushed a pleasant young man named Jaafar, who was probably no more than eighteen. In a slightly mocking tone, he retorted “Oooh, oooh, don’t kill me! I want to see my sons!” … In the days ahead we heard that line repeated more than once; in fact it became kind of an “in” joke among the captors. We gradually admitted to ourselves the awful truth: Guillermo’s decapitated body was lying back there somewhere on a hillside, marked only by his head raised up on a bamboo pole like a trophy.'"Consider the following excerpt from the March 27, 2006 Weekly Standard article "Saddam's Philippines Terror Connection: And other revelations from the Iraqi regime files":
"SADDAM HUSSEIN'S REGIME PROVIDED FINANCIAL support to Abu Sayyaf, the al Qaeda-linked jihadist group founded by Osama bin Laden's brother-in-law in the Philippines in the late 1990s, according to documents captured in postwar Iraq. An eight-page fax dated June 6, 2001, and sent from the Iraqi ambassador in Manila to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Baghdad, provides an update on Abu Sayyaf kidnappings and indicates that the Iraqi regime was providing the group with money to purchase weapons. The Iraqi regime suspended its support--temporarily, it seems--after high-profile kidnappings, including of Americans, focused international attention on the terrorist group...."Read it all. Note the apparent connection among Saddam Hussein, al-Qaeda, and Abu Sayyaf. Often, what we Westerners think of as different groups of Islamic terrorists have ties, usually financial. According to Dr. Walid Phares, one of the speakers I heard at the Pre-Symposium event on Friday, April 28, 2006, different Islamic terrorist-organizations are branches of the same tree.
More information about Abu Sayyaf can be found here, in this April 2005 report from the State Department. Excerpt:
"The ASG [Abu Sayyaf Group] engages in kidnappings for ransom, bombings, beheadings, assassinations, and extortion. The group’s stated goal is to promote an independent Islamic state in western Mindanao and the Sulu Archipelago (areas in the southern Philippines heavily populated by Muslims) but the ASG has primarily used terror for financial profit. Recent bombings may herald a return to a more radical, politicized agenda, at least among certain factions. The group’s first large-scale action was a raid on the town of Ipil in Mindanao in April 1995. In April of 2000, an ASG faction kidnapped 21 persons, including 10 Western tourists, from a resort in Malaysia. On May 27, 2001, the ASG kidnapped three US citizens and 17 Filipinos from a tourist resort in Palawan, Philippines. Several of the hostages, including US citizen Guillermo Sobero, were murdered. During a Philippine military hostage rescue operation on June 7, 2002, US hostage Gracia Burnham was rescued, but her husband Martin Burnham and Filipina Deborah Yap were killed. Philippine authorities say that the ASG had a role in the bombing near a Philippine military base in Zamboanga in October 2002 that killed a US serviceman. In February 2004, Khadaffy Janjalani’s faction bombed SuperFerry 14 in Manila Bay, killing approximately 132, and in March, Philippine authorities arrested an ASG cell whose bombing targets included the US Embassy in Manila."So, what got me curious about Guillermo Sobrero and Abu Sayyaf? The Washington Post's mention of a beheading, of course. Just how many beheadings don't make the front page of our newspapers so as not to promote Islamophobia? And how many more reports of Islamic terrorism are buried or not published at all?
posted by Always On Watch @ 5/02/2006 06:40:00 AM
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64 Comments:
"SADDAM HUSSEIN'S REGIME PROVIDED FINANCIAL support to Abu Sayyaf, the al Qaeda-linked jihadist group founded by Osama bin Laden's brother-in-law in the Philippines in the late 1990s, according to documents captured in postwar Iraq.
What gets me is, the left will still say that there was no evidence that Saddam had any connection to 9-11 and that he was not a threat to the US. But as we continue to uncover information, we find out differently. Even still, the left refuses, not fails to, but refuses to see the evidence in any form of an objective light.
They do love darkness, don't they?
AoW- If you haven't read Gracia Burnham's book, do so. She is bluntly honest about her fears and doubts during this time. It is a hard read in places, I cried at parts. But well worth the time! May we prove as faithful if we go through tough times. Her testimony of how she handled sudden widowhood helped me, though mine I saw coming for 11 months and her's was sudden!
tmw
gracia burnham is everything her first name implies - graceful. although i've not read her book have seen her in several interviews in the last couple of years. one tough cookie.
as for islam - not a tree aow - more like a poisonous weed that goes unchecked until it takes everything you have to eradicate it. i wonder if we have what it takes.
iran threatening our eternal home - AGAIN - this morning.
as you all know, my favorite t.v. pastor/teacher, zola levitt, died this previous month and i received the last news letter he was a part of before he left this world. it is a MUST read:
www.levitt.com
just go to levitt letter - it's pdf, but well worth the time. NOW IS THE TIME.
TMW and Nanc,
I read some excerpts from that book quite a while back. I might have heard of it through Voice of the Martyrs.
Nanc,
The tentacles are spread throughout the world. That is not to say that we shouldn't hold accountable the pc msm and the universities which spout the propaganda "religion of peace." We must also not let up on our elected representatives; the enemy is well organized with regard to the political game.
LNAML,
If the doings of the Islamofascists were told in full, the alarm would be sounded.
"Conflict," "insurgents," "rebels" are all euphemisms designed to mask the truth.
Furthermore, as long as all Muslims read and literally believe the Koran, Islamofascism will proliferate.
I am aware of the long-standing conflict between Muslims and Filipinos. But what's going on there now, the battle with the "new Islamofascism," dates back to 1978 or so.
the reflexive Spanish hostility toward Muslims
Historical basis for that portion of your comment. Spain lived under the boot of the Moor from 711-1492. It is a myth that all the caliphs were tolerant and, in truth, the rules of dhimmitude prevailed.
BTW, I am a Spanish major and have read loads of medieval literature from Spain, in the original Spanish. And some of the methods of the Inquistion derived from the techniques used upon the Iberians when those Iberians would not submit to Islam.
Off to work now!
Ducky
Has it ever crossed your mind that this is about more then Israel ?
The goal of Islam like that of Communism is global hegemony.
"The millions we are harming in Iraq"
Now there's an overstatement. Most of the civilian casualties are the result of indiscriminate attacks made by insurgents not from the occasional bombing of a wrong target.
Don't get carried awayby last night's game. Sox fans never seem to understand that the division isn't decided in May.
Ah yes, Ducky attacks the "thumpers" again. As if there is an equivalency between mohammahdens and Christians. As there are several "thumpers" who hang out at this site, have any threatened you with beheading? Don't go back to the Inquisition now, we are discussing the present! When was the last time a Christian threatened to behead anyone? When is the last time Christians threatened or did burn down an embassy? Or threatened to roll some other nation into the sea? Hmmm? I can't hear you! When have the lives of cartoonists or artists been threatened with death? Well?
tmw
Mussolini,
I'm not certain of the equivalence you place upon the Democratic and Republican Parties. The Democratic Party has, since its inception in the early 1800s, been an organization solely dedicated to the twin goals of destroying the US Constitution and putting large numbers of dark-skinned people to death. Republicans don't have such starkly ignoble origins.
Although if 2008 comes down to a Hillary Clinton vs. John McCain contest for President, I'm probably going to stay home from the polls. I'm not anti-Hillary enough to vote for John McCain, and vice versa.
kidnappings for ransom, bombings, beheadings, assassinations, and extortion...Hmmm a day in the life of an Izlamo facist eh AOW?..good God.
On the eternal issue of the size of the federal government, I've always observed that when Democrats claim to have "shrank" the size of the federal government, it is after they've cut a swath through the number of military personnel while amping up domestic law enforcement. (They'll get around Posse Comitatus somehow...)
On the other hand, when Republicans claim to have "shrank" the size of the federal government, it is after they've slashed production and market regulations and restrictions on the private sector.
Looking through the toilet paper roll tube from the other side, we clearly see that Democrats believe government is a gun (can't let the people have those!) to rule the masses and Republicans believe government is a business expense.
Both spend the same insane amount of money on needless domestic and international social welfare bullshit.
The libertarian in me ain't happy with either of the two's narrow focus, but the conservative in me at least recognizes that the Republicans keep America in the world game.
I would venture to say that the lack of news items of beheadings and other terribly violent acts commited in the name of Allah are excused from Media coverage because they have become old hat. As is true with so many things in the U.S. media, they overexpose people to horrors that eventually de-sensatize the public. Now, a beheading is just another one of those "things" that you may read about in the paper. Once America got over the intial shock that it was common place in Muslim countries, the leftists were given back their ability to rationalize true evil (people) that leads down a path of religious based moralism, and they could once again side-track everyone to their percieved evil (events/things) that lead down the path to secularism.
In other words, the over exposure has allowed the public to stop thinking things that people do repeatedly are still as shocking as the first time they saw it, so instead they can focus on the "important" things like Global Warming and World Hunger... after all, those are the really "evil" things in life, not various religious and moral views that differ from ours right?
Good Grief.
G,
Aye, the graveyard, the great equalizer.
G,
Your hiatus is over? I hope so!
I haven't yet had time to read all the comments here, but I wanted to post the following, in case someone wants to check it out.
From this source and by Irshad Manji:
...The weapons of mass destruction have been found. They’re people with unshakeable faith in the coming showdown between good and evil. Left in their hands, the world is heading for a clash of Armageddons.
Irshad Manji is a Fellow at Yale University and author of The Trouble with Islam Today: A Wake-Up Call for Reform in Her Faith.
The entire article is worth reading.
AOW,
The terrorism we face is STATE funded and we should not have any illusions whatsoever about it.
To pick Iraq (as an example)out of many other Muslim states was smart bacause it had a potential to become a "democracy".
Unfortunately the implementation od the "very general plan" has been lousy.
Why?
Because people who are in charge of the implementation don't understand that "democracy" doesn't start on political level (voting rights etc.) but on getting people involved in very basic decisions which can make them better off.
Hi all! Nice blog AOW. I read that Iran had "found" uranium deposits in their Zagros mountain region today. These mullahs keep pushing their luck with the rest of the world. I wonder if anybody besides us bloggers cares what is going on in the ME. Like Neal Boortz always says--American Idol is on tonight.
hey flo! you're everywhere today - i saw you slaying dragons over at fpm. are you the only one left speaking to eggnesto?
aow - hope you don't mind - beak and i recommended your site above others as a great place for flo to get some insight - he's a diamond in the rough.
O.T. aow - please check your e-mail - thanks ahead of time.
Florian,
Welcome! I'll stop by your site as my schedule and carpal tunnel allow.
My blog is a great place to meet people. Hope you enjoy visiting here.
These mullahs keep pushing their luck with the rest of the world.
The mullahs have always exerted their power. Nothing like using the "word of allah" to hold onto power. Have you ever read Mitchener's Caravans? Michener was certainly no Islamophobe, but he did his research well and told the story.
From the bit I know, the ME is rich in uranium deposits. Or so said Mahdi Obeidi, author of The Bomb in My Garden; i heard him speak in March, 2005.
Carpal tunnel AOW? From all these years blogging I'm sure. I've never read Mitchner's Caravans, I'll certainly check it out. We'll see how this plays out. Problems in Iraq, Iran, and Pakistan could boil over. All we can do is pray.
No nanc I also joined the boycott of eggnesto.
Florian,
I've been blogging for only about a year--my blogoversary was April 28. But years of piano playing is also a factor.
Of course, I HAVE been blogging with a frenzy. LOL.
good flo - now nobody's talking to him!
AOW: Oh how I wish I had gotten onto this thread earlier.
But after reading sooooo muuuucccchhhhh BS from Ducky, where could I even start to untangle that mess?
He must have thrown the entire book of Michael Moore talking points into the word processor and just uploaded them one by one.
Niger yellowcake forgeries? Get serious! Those were never important to the Niger story. Probably done by people trying to discredit the truth, which is that the sixteen words in Bush's State of the Union address: "The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa" was an accurate statement.
Your complete indifference to the vast and growing catalog of contacts, funding, training that Saddam had with terrorists in general and Al Queda in particular is evidence that you lack any credibility in discussing these vital life and death issues.
Try reading the UNANIMOUS Senate Intell Report and UNANIMOUS 9/11 Commission Report, both of which described the links we are now learning more about.
What a lame ducky!
The Clinton regime bombed out an "aspirin factory" in the Sudan owned by Al Qaeda that was making sarin gas for Iraq.
At least, that's what they said.
AOW
When you read Caravans look for the comment by a Mitchner characher
that says either the Russians or Americans will bomb us back to the stone age.
You also meet the many ethnicities of Afghanistan and pedastry was a part of local culture.
Saddam can make any kind of coalitions against the Free World. Let me quote Tony Blair's speech at the Foreign Policy Centre in London.
“True the conventional view is that, for example, Iran is hostile to Al Qaida and therefore would never support its activities. But as we know from our own history of conflict, under the pressure of battle, alliances shift and change. Fundamentally, for this ideology, we are the enemy.”
“‘We’ is not the West. … but those who believe in religious tolerance, openness to others, to democracy, liberty and human rights administered by secular courts."
Tony Blair is right! Those who are against the Free World can make any kind of alliances.
C'mon SA,
You describe a world where every individual nation pursues temporal policies that support their own percieved national interests, irrespective of whatever comic book "America bad / non-American good" style exercise in assembling words into patterns indistinguishable from absurdity that a typical leftist might espouse.
You describe the world correctly.
NOTICE TO COMMENTERS,
I have a heavy work schedule, but don't think that I've forgotten to come back here and read all comments.
I plan to leave this posting as the most recent until late Thursday night or early Friday morning.
While I'm intermittently around, I hope that every commenter will scroll up to read what O Sons For Liberty had to say! OSFL worked in the Philippines.
Work beckons. Gotta run.
a very enlightening post oson. i grew up in san diego with many philipino kids from military families - i remember how they missed their country as it seems 35-40 years ago what you say is happening was unheard of. sad.
aow - missive your way. thanks.
Oson, that is so "Muslim is Evil" yesterday... they need to do something really nasty (aka more shocking and new) to get widespread media coverage... otherwise, you MUST understand that you have to be more tolerant and understanding that it's the poverty and oppression making them do that, not anyone specifically "evil"...
aow - my first post is up:
http://longrange.blogspot.com/
Great one example of state-sponsored terrorism ducky
So you believe that from this one example there is no state-sponsored terrorism?
Step into reality...
Branches of the same tree...we've been saying this all along havent we AOW?!..is anyone out there listening?
lol, btw Oson, I should have mentioned the sarcasim dripping... sorry for the misunderstanding.
Hey, Ducky has a point, it's not all state funded... well, except for where you concider Islam a "state" since it acts as one in most instances.
The typical muslim donates to a muslim "charity" which distributes the money to various causes, including terrorism (holy jihad).
Mussolini, do you remeber how quickly Libia wanted to join the "nice guys league" after the air strike?
This was also a lesson to other states sponsoring terror and they do not do it as openly as before.
Still, Hamas is funded by Syria and Hizballah by Iran.
Not a secret.
Qaddafi a megalomaniac? Well sort of. He is only just a Colonel--not even a Brigadier General--much less a 4 star. Nontheless, he does have sense since right after 9/11 he seems to have continuously wet his pants over America's response to the attacks. Iran is led by a cabal of suicidal mullahs who don't care what happens to their country if they carry out attacks on Israel. The former President of Iran is quoted as saying "if we lose 100 million muslims in exchange for the destruction of Israel it would be worth it". How can you rationalize with these kind of nut jobs?
Yup Qaddafi is up there with Syria and Fatah. They only use Islamic terrorism for their own purposes.
Look how devout Saddam is these days.
"I will stick to my assertion that states don't have to sponsor terrorism. The money and materials can be had by free lancers and that is what you are seeing."
How would you explain the Taliban in Afghanistan? Not only did they support terrorist by giving them safe haven they allowed training camps inside their borders.
Iran gives direct aid to several terrorist organizations. Iran provides funding, safe haven, training, and weapons for Lebanon-based Hezbollah and Palestinian terrorist groups Hamas, Islamic Jihad, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command.
Maybe I don't understand your definition of state-sponsored terrorism.
"I also seperate Israel and America."
I think everybody does ducky. I know that I am a much stronger supporter of Israel than you are but I understand that our countries often have different agendas.
The only people who might not see a difference are those who fall for those Jewish conspiracy theories.
Hmmm
Who led the pork to get mounds of money for the project ? How does the dynamic duo who obtained the pork bear no responsability ?
Here's a bit of wisdom from Ducky, "Military operations are virtually useless"
You love dogging Reagan (who I am not too fond of either), but it was Reagan's air attack against Libya that made them behave themselves. Sure he made a lot of noise, but time took care of him and his security forces went on the defensive to end up eventually capitulating to the US.
The only thing that keeps the Iraqi insurgency bottled up in 3 provinces is the US military. Without US military power Saddam would still be the CEO of Murder Inc, instead of being tried in an Iraqi court. It was American military power that kept the streets safe for two national elections and a referendum on the Iraqi Constitution.
Without military power how would we have evicted Saddam from Kuwait and Hitler from Poland?
Grow up. Military power is not pretty and not even desirable, but is absolutely necessary in the face of the fascists that you protect...
P.S. your comment about Iraqi secularity ignores the history of Saddam's Faith Campaign in the 90s when he tried to manipulate Islamic bigotry for his own ends.
How can you use such an argument in the case of a madman who considered himself to be the new Saladin? He clearly used Islamic bigotry as much as the secular Syrians do. Baathists of all stripes use a combination of Arab Nationalism and exploitation of Islamist bigotry to advance their goals of personal enrichment and the pursuit of power.
AOW - PLEASE CHECK YOUR MAIL!
Philanthopy from Ducky:
I don't live in Israel and frankly don't give a crap if someone paid the family of a bomber.
Not a whole lot to say about the above--it speaks for itself.
Very likely truth from Ducky:
I believe that the Saudis are behind a lot of crap.
And the Saudis are nothing less than state-sponsored ideological and financial supporters of terrorism. I see no politicians willing to expose the Saudi regime as overt or complicit Wahabbists.
It is foolhardy to think that attacks of terrorism are carried out by isolated nutjobs and, at the same time, assert conspiracy on the part of the Right.
Ducky,
Please note that the Indonesian organization has been hunted down. They aren't mounting a serious threat and the state is hunting them down much as A;lgeria and Egypt btutally hunted down radicals.
I think that many Indonesians would disagree with the first part of that statement, especially the parent of beheaded Indonesian schoolchildren. As to Egypt, the Muslim Brotherhood, under different label, is sitting in Parliament.
Florian,
Qaddafi is a megalomaniac, as was Saddam. Both know/knew how to rally the Muslims by unifying them through the use of the Koran. I don't see either of them as devout, but I do see both of them manipulators who well know how to hold onto power.
Crusader,
Traditionally, Muslims will unite against a common enemy. The various terrorist organizations will put aside their differences so as to further their goal of Islam dominating the world--that concept is consistent with the Koran and the Hadith.
Mussolini,
Apparently we'll deal with Iran AFTER they strike whoever they strike.
I believe that to be correct. But I think there's more to it than CFR.
Mike's America,
Sorry for all the hip-deep wading you had to do.
Don't you know that only the Right is capable of conspiracy? (sarcasm)
Muslim states are either "family business" or theocracies. With the exceptions of Indonesia and to certain degree Malaysia, rich/powerful families/clans are actulaly running their states.
Indonesian government doesn't sponsor terrorism but Saudis do it for the Indonesians.
All madrassas in Indo are paid by the Saudis or Kuwaitis. Madrassas teach nothing but Jihad and hate.
It is where the selection of martyrs and operators takes place.
The political forces behind Indonesian government aren't entirely Muslim (Catholic and Chinese) and this is one of the reasons why Aceh is still the only region where Sharia is the official law.
Still, the government easily takes the Muslim side when it comes to open conflicts.
Just a few old links with regards to Indo and al-Qaeda and Afghanistan:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azahari_Husin
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,351169,00.html
http://www.cdi.org/terrorism/sea.cfm
Freedom Now,
The problem is with Islamist theology.
How long is the West going to persist in the delusion that the "problems" with Islam are not inherent? Verse after verse in the Koran, passage after passage in the Hadith.
Missing Link,
All madrassas in Indo are paid by the Saudis or Kuwaitis. Madrassas teach nothing but Jihad and hate.
Thank you for pointing out the above. And the Saudi-funded madrassahs are in many Western nations, not just in Muslim countries.
Better watch Wikipedia, though (not that I'm disputing the above link from you). Have you seen what's going on with Wikipedia's entry about Robert Spencer? Same old, same old: the Jews are behind all the conflict with Islam.
You might also want to check the Wikipedia entry about the Danish cartoons.
AOW,
This particular entry is correct.
It's actually copied from something else.
It's a mixture depends who gets their hands on it first.
In fact Time is almost as reliable as Wikipedia these days.
Here is another take on this vile crim Husin:
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/09/09/1094530774504.html
Missing Link,
I'm sure you're correct about that particular Wikipedia entry. My point was that Wikipedia may become something along the lines of Orwell's 1984. The msm already have.
Missing Link,
Well, that's some bit of information in that link you dropped.
Excerpt:
Here are some facts about Azahari Husin.
* Dubbed the "Demolition Man" by Malaysian newspapers, Azahari is suspected of being Jemaah Islamiah's (JI's) top bomb maker.
* He is a former university lecturer and gifted mathematician, who police suspect of designing the Bali and JW Marriott Hotel bombs....
* He returned home to obtain his degree, and at the end of the 1980s went to Reading University in England, where he impressed his tutors so much they persuaded him to stay on to complete a doctorate. That was in 1990....
* Back in Malaysia, two toddlers in tow, he and his wife became lecturers at Universiti Teknologi Malaysia at Skudai in the southern state of Johor.
* His epiphany occurred in the mid-1990s, when he fell under the influence of the late Abdullah Sungkar and Abu Bakar Bashir, two exiled Indonesian preachers spouting notions of jihad, or holy war, and accused of being JI's founding fathers....
* "He's a real born-again Muslim," said one security official, noting that most foot soldiers of the JI network come from a rural background and were educated in local Islamic schools or madrassahs....
Not exactly a poor, illiterate Muslim fellow, huh?
Military operations are virtually useless, especially when you have a republican president like Ron "Senile" Raygun, George "Sure keep your attack helicopters" Bush I or Chucklenuts. You must rely on policing and intelligence. Good intelligence requires allies -- Chucklenuts hasn't been helpful in building alliances.
ROFLMAO!
I do believe this is the most asinine thing I have ever read from Ducky.
Stick to analyzing photos of piss, Ducky. Military doctrine, strategic thinking, tactical planning, geopolitics, and diplomatic relations don't seem to be your bag. I'm in serious doubt you could even point at Iraq on a map.
O Sons.... thanks, and you to bud... no worries, though, I re-read my post and realized how it sounded (or read?).
Duck... shhhh, your hammer and sickle are showing again... oh wait, thats right, the Left are the "compassionate" ones.
Is there a problem in Iraq we need to be aware of?
Duck, your hammer and sickle are not from your pretense and attempt at being the "courageous dissenter" you seem to wish for, instead it is directed because you repeatedly make assinine comments that reveal your opinion that capitalism and Republic styles of governemnt are not what you desire, and that you frequently make viled attempts to champion the effects of communism and socialism.
The compassion comment was because your political leaders on the left commonly refer to Republicans and cold-hearted, uncaring, and lacking compassion... hence that would mean they are proporting to HAVE compassion...
so, using the logical bridge, I was attempting to point out THEIR hypocracy through you since you seem to only have selective compassion for those that kill Americans and/or Jews.
Oh, and no, they give us other neat sayings in the "book"... but most of them would offend you even more, so I just keep them between myself and other "mindless" Jarheads...
Btw, the nation was founded by those military types that you say we dont let run the country... and does that comment mean you wont vote for the recent slew of Democrats coming back from Iraq as vetrans?
Beamish,
I do believe this is the most asinine thing I have ever read from Ducky.
That's saying something!
G,
Duck has the right to quack out his leftism because the military types have protected his right to do so. That's the ultimate irony as far as I'm concerned.
Duck,
AOW, come on tie a can on it.
Well, I won't. My blog, my choice of topics to which I add my own comments. I don't recall my discussing Vietnam, Granada, or Panama. Perhaps I've forgotten; perhaps you've mixed up someone else's comment with one of my comments.
favorite rabies radio personality
I'm not a radio person and very rarely listen to talk radio. I had never even heard of Graham until the WaPo reported his dust-up with CAIR.
The military types can use aphorisms in comments here if they like. I also give you the latitude to challenge them and to use some of your favorite aphorisms, and with little comment from me. I don't recall ever asking you not to challenge here. But I do think that a little consideration and respect might be in order.
No need to pick a fight with me, Duck.
I doubt that G will be back to this thread.
Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...
"The Democratic Party has, since its inception in the early 1800s, been an organization solely dedicated to the twin goals of destroying the US Constitution and putting large numbers of dark-skinned people to death. Republicans don't have such starkly ignoble origins."
Uh, Mr. Beamish, are you on drugs or just that stupid? Because your grasp of American history is pitiful! Me thinks you've been "beamed" a few too many times in the head. I assume for your sake that you are mentally retarded.
FYI, the Democratic Party was founded in the late 1700s in part by none other than Thomas Jefferson. I'm quite intrigued to learn that destroying the U.S. Constitution was its primary foundational aim. I worry about what the weed you're smoking is laced with. Also that comment about "putting large numbers of dark-skinned people to death" is just paranoid hyperbolic race-hustling and sensationalism on your part. Lemme guess, you are some self-hating honkey plagued by White Liberal Guilt on the inside. Such over-the-top sensationalism is actually quite offensive to African-Americans.
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