Monday, August 15, 2005

Immigration Advocates Need A Reality Check

Here in its entirety is a piece from the August 11, 2005 editorial page of the Washington Post:
Mr. Kilgore's Nativism

"With a gratuitous blast at illegal immigrants, Jerry W. Kilgore, the Republican candidate for governor in Virginia, has injected a nativist note into the campaign. Struggling in the latest statewide poll and evidently grasping for an issue to excite his conservative base and make inroads in Northern Virginia, Mr. Kilgore injected himself into a local dispute in the town of Herndon, in western Fairfax County: He announced his opposition to the town's efforts to establish a publicly funded gathering spot for day laborers, many of them illegal immigrants, who work in the area's booming construction industry. In Mr. Kilgore's view, providing such a site for Hispanic laborers, who currently await work in the parking lot of a convenience store, would 'undercut our laws and our stability by rewarding those who . . . are in this country illegally.'

"Well, we certainly wouldn't want to see Herndon's day laborers subvert Virginia's stability. But it's hard to see how the commonwealth is safer or how its laws are more secure, with the workers clamoring for construction jobs and disrupting traffic in front of a 7-Eleven, as they do now.

"Then again, if we read Mr. Kilgore correctly, he'd like to see all undocumented immigrants given the boot. As Virginia's attorney general, the title he held until earlier this year, he supported legislation that would give local police the authority to detain illegal immigrants after they've been arrested for another crime -- loitering, say -- and turn them over to federal officials. Mr. Kilgore seems to care little that police officers, who lack the training, time and resources to act as immigration agents, are opposed to the idea; they're actually busy with local crime. Nor does he explain how Northern Virginia, which has virtually no unemployment, would furnish itself with construction crews, landscapers, janitors, child-care workers and short-order cooks and fill dozens of other positions in the absence of the very immigrants he so badly wants to deport.

"The federal government's failure to seal the borders and enforce immigration laws is a legitimate subject for debate, and a number of states have been forced to deal with the consequences of that failure. But Mr. Kilgore is not adding a constructive voice to the debate. He is simply on the prowl for a wedge issue, and hopes he's found one in immigrant-bashing. Uninvited, he stepped into the dispute in Herndon several days after a conservative radio talk show host, broadcasting from Sacramento, urged listeners to deluge Herndon Town Hall with so many phone calls protesting the proposed day-laborer site that they would "melt the switchboard." In an ugly response, listeners did just that, peppering their calls and e-mails with expletives denouncing the immigrants and the town officials who would help them. Herndon officials were forced to unplug the phones.

"Given the passions unleashed in this dispute, perhaps the temptation to fan the flames with a naked appeal for votes was simply too strong for Mr. Kilgore. But he should have summoned the strength to resist it. Virginia's most pressing problems -- including transportation, education and health care -- will require all of the next governor's energies. It would be nice if candidates for governor showed they could focus on the big issues rather than play politics with bitter and emotional local disputes."
A gratuitous blast at illegal immigrants? Does the Washington Post editorialist have any personal knowledge of the situation in Herndon? Has the author of the above editorial had any personal experience with what residents of Northern Virginia have to put up with, not only at day-laborer loitering sites but also in long-established residential neighborhoods?

The following quotation from an anonymous commenter--who has personal experience as to the impact of immigrants in an established neighborhood--appeared at "The American Street And Illegal Immigration":

"In northern Virginia, it is more than just five or six [people] in one house. Think about 19 people in an 1000 sq ft rambler with one kitchen and one bathroom. Wall to wall beds. That was not in my neighborhood, but in my development.

"We original neighbors in my neighborhood believe the house across the street is now a 'safe house' for illegals. We watch them come and go - many, many people. They have constructed a building in the back yard - which the county supervisor inspected and stated that, in his judgement, it was for living quarters, because of the doors, insulation, etc.

"Those people moved in on a Saturday. Tuesday morning there was a wide band of red paint spray painted the full length of the street-side of my husband's white pickup. We have lived here for more than 30 years without incident.

"There are always 14 vehicles, at least three of which are commercial, parked on the street in front of the house which is situated on a slow curve, giving more room than other homes have for street parking. AND, there are two people who, in the morning, park their cars in front of that house - one person gets into one of the white commercial vans. The second person walks to a house two doors down the street and joins another person in a commercial vehicle at that house and they drive away. Of course, one person who drives the second van in front of my house lives in the 'illegal safe house.' I reported the first white commercial van to the president of the company of the business. One white 'signed' van was promptly replaced with two 'no sign' white commercial vans. How is that for cooperation?

"A few days ago, my daughter and I arrived home in one vehicle followed by her fiance in another vehicle to find no parking places in front of our house - on our side of the street! People were, of course, standing around talking in the yards of the house across the street and next door. Since there was a party next door, I asked if they knew who the cars belonged to. They moved one so we could park one of our vehicles on the street in front of our house!!! We pulled two vehicles as far as we could into the driveway so that my husband could get most of his truck into the drive when he arrived. I called him on his cell to let him know the situation and to ask that he not cause a scene. We do have to live here until we are ready to sell to some more of their kind.

"AND, before my neighbor sold, she took her son to kindergarten orientation in the neighborhood. The staff at the school HUNTED for an English welcome package. After some time, they thrust a Spanish package in his hands and told him to enjoy. My neighbor was able to get the county to agree to enroll her son in the school in the neighborhood they were moving into several miles away. She transported him daily for eight months - more than 20 miles.

"That is the joy of living around illegal immigrants. They come in and 'slumify' the neighborhood. As we drive into the neighborhood, daily, we see more junk added to the yards of our wonderful neighbors - welcomed by the government - (who I am sure helped them buy their house!!!!!)"
The anonymous commenter, who has such personal observations, has clearly delineated the reality in Northern Virginia. And based on the second commentary, I definitely see an education issue and likely a health issue as well.

Certainly the hordes to which the commenter refers are in violation of local zoning laws. Or don't the local zoning laws apply to certain residents of a neighborhood?

Via email, the following comment from Bob shows that problems with illegal immigration are not restricted to Herndon, Virginia:
"I think this has been festering for the last 40 years and needs to be addressed. When local law officers catch a load of illegals, the Feds will not pick them up. Tennessee has a growing problem with Mexicans illegally working in the state. We have brought this on by having the 'wealth redistribution theory' welfare system that has been pushed by the Liberal Democrats ever since LBJ and his 'Great Society' programs. It grows like a cancer and no one realizes what is happening until it becomes terminal to our way of life. This is one of the reasons that I am a conservative, active, Republican."
Would someone please tell the editors of the Washington Post to read the above commentary penned by Anonymous and the note from Bob? The editors need to get in touch with reality!

Note: For NY Girl's commentary on immigration, go here. Her article provides more evidence that the problem in Northern Virginia is more than a local problem. In fact, the matter of illegal immigration may be the hot-button issue of the 2008 National Election.


At 8/15/2005 7:18 PM, Blogger NYgirl said...

Thanks for the link.

Believe me, this is a problem all over the country. You should see California & New York. And with Arabs coming in through the Tex-Mex border, this is also a major security issue.

At 8/16/2005 12:10 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

NY Girl,
Yes, this IS a major security issue.

There is another hearing in Herndon, Virginia--on Tuesday, August 16, I think.

In Prince William County, Virginia, when the taxpayer-funded center was voted down, a private organization stepped in. I don't believe that organization checks on legal/illegal status, however.

At 8/16/2005 12:47 AM, Blogger Esther said...

Immigration is absolutely the issue for the 2008 election...possibly even 2006. It is totally out of control. I have heard that something like 50% of violent crime in LA is because of illegal immigants! That's insane!

At 8/16/2005 8:12 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Yes, illegal immigrants do commit a high proportion of violent crimes. Thank you for pointing that out.

A friend of mine, who used to work for a police department in Texas back in the 1980's, used to take reports of pedophilia and women's rapes. And illegals committed the majority of those crimes; the same also applied to robberies, assaults, and murders. This type of data is often not released to the general public.

One fellow here, recently arrested in a gang rumble in Maryland, had served time for the illegal disposal of a human body. Guess what? He was an illegal immigrant! Back when he was arrested on the disposal-of-a-human-body charge, county notified the feds, but the feds never picked the fellow up. Once he was back on the street, still an illegal immigrant, within six months he stabbed several people.

Maybe the feds will do something this time.

The presence of illegal immigrants is not just a nuisance and a drain on the taxpayers. The presence brings violent crime into our midst.

At 8/16/2005 3:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe it's just me . . . perhaps I don't "get it." If an immigrant is in the US legally then I have no problems whatsoever with immigration. At the outset, legal immigrants have obeyed the law, and that is a good sign for furture conduct. Conversely, illegal immigrants have violated the law, and this is NOT a good sign for the future value of that individual as a member of our society.

We the people have a right to secure our borders. We the people demand that our government do exactly that. Frankly, I am appalled that our Congress has ignored this problem, which I believe has potentially enormously dangerous consequences to our citizens. When local and state governments seek to detain or arrest those who are illegally present in their states, which I do not feel falls outside of the 10th Amendment, the federal government should be grateful for the assist.

I don't know who the editorialist is, AOW -- but it is another case of someone with his head up his ass. Our government need to be accountable to us, and it is up to us to see that elected and appointed officials are accountable. If they refuse to address our concerns, we should refuse to reelect them. We don't do that because most Americans have an attention span of less than five minutes.

Semper Fidelis . . .

At 8/16/2005 3:46 PM, Blogger Gindy said...

"Immigration is absolutely the issue for the 2008 election...possibly even 2006."

It better be an issue in 2006. Especially after seeing what Gov. Richardson is proposing. I wish California would do the same thing.

At 8/16/2005 6:34 PM, Blogger Timothy Birdnow said...

If they are illegal, why is aren`t they being picked up? Instead, this local government is building them a park! What hypocrisy!

This issue must be dealt with, and the longer this goes on the harder it will be for everyone. Ask the Lebanese if massive illegal immigration is a good idea!

At 8/16/2005 8:20 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Once again, you have correctly analyzed the situation, at least to my way of thinking.

As to that editorialist, his head is definitely "where the sun don't shine." I also see political motivation in the editorial: Kilgore is the Republican candidate, and the "Post" supports the Democratic candidate, 9 times out of 10. I'm sure that the "Post" will endorse Kaine.

And, unless I miss my guess, the moronic lefties in Northern Virginia will vote for Kaine. It's the rest of the state which votes Republican, although our present loser of a governor, Mark Warner, is a Democrat.

If by some freak occurrence, Northern Virginia votes for Kilgore, those votes will be cast in opposition to the situation with illegal immigrants. Lots of people in this portion of the state are fed up!

At 8/16/2005 8:26 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Excellent point about the Lebanese!

My husband screams these words all the time: "WHAT IS IT ABOUT THE WORD ILLEGAL THAT THESE IDIOTS DON'T UNDERSTAND!!!"

Round up the illegals. Deport them! Some (NOT all) of them are petty or heinous criminals; many pay no taxes and, as my anonymous friend pointed out, "slumify" the neighborhood. All the negatives are no longer worth the price of cheap labor--if indeed the price of cheap labor was ever worth the cost.

And now, here in the D.C. area, we have the matter of Latino gangs to deal with. Many members of these gangs are illegals--or the offspring of illegals.

At 8/16/2005 8:27 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

I heard some details about Gov. Richardson today. Is the rest of America listening? Is our national government listening?

At 8/16/2005 8:31 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

To all,
Have you heard the news about the formation of a new bank? A bank which will specialize in arranging mortgages FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS?

Give me a break!

At 8/16/2005 8:44 PM, Blogger Jason Pappas said...

I was dumbstruck when a pro-illegal advocate made the following statement to a talk show host about illegal immigrants: “you act as if they are all criminals.” I was amazed that even the talk show host didn’t hear what was said. Perhaps someone needs to point out what illegal means.

At 8/16/2005 10:51 PM, Blogger beakerkin said...


I am in favor of legal immigration but the way we do it is wrong. This may sound un PC but family based reunification is a joke.

The system should be blown up and done on skills. We should stop a moronic system that makes Phillipinos wait longer then anyone else.

There is a silent exodus of Christians going on right now. Copts are fleeing Egypt, Christians are fleeing Lebanon and Syria. We must never turn our back on the Christians and other religious minorities living under Islamic opression.

There will be a flood of refugees at a later date from South America.
Far left governments tend to create
that type of problem.

At 8/17/2005 11:04 PM, Blogger Toni said...

I was recently accused of being racist for opining against "illegal" immigrants. The person said I was just using psuedo speake in distinguishing between legal and illegal and told me I was racist! It wasn't on my blog and I commented a couple of times back and forth with this guy but he couldn't get past the racism label.

At 8/17/2005 11:22 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

In the past few days, some of the legal immigrants here in the D.C. area speaking out against the illegals.

And, yes, illegals ARE criminals! Why don't the lefties understand that?

At 8/17/2005 11:25 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Excellent comment here! And just where will WE go to escape from the lefties?

At 8/17/2005 11:28 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Every time they can't think of sensible to say, the lefties trot out the accusation of "racist." Ann Coulter has pointed out that syndrome.

I hate trying to reason with people who refuse to be rational.

BTW, I just heard a bulletin on the local news. The Herndon center for day laborers was approved by the town council. The vote was 4 to 2. Unbelievable! Come next election, the town voters should push those four idiots out of office!

At 8/20/2005 4:57 PM, Blogger The MaryHunter said...

Great post, AOW. I plan to point to it from a post on Maryland illegal immigration politics that I am preparing for Sunday morning on The Wide Awakes and at TMH's Bacon Bits.

At 8/20/2005 9:57 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

I'll have a look. Thanks for the tip.


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