Symposium Report: Part Three
(All emphases by Always On Watch)
Dr. Babu Suseelan, professor in clinical psychology and Director of Addiction Research Institute in Pennsylvania was the second speaker at the April 29, 2006 Symposium and made the following statements early in his presentation:
“The ideology behind terrorism is Islam. Period."Those statements got the immediate attention of the listeners. The first third of the presentation included several hot-button statements such as the above, as well as substantiation.
“The whole history of Islam has been death and destruction.”
In the middle portion of his speech, Dr. Suseelan drew parallels between the Islamic mind and the criminal mind; he also compared Islamic thinking to that of the alcoholic or drug addict and pointed out that early indoctrination leads to what most of us would describe as twisted thinking—a code which encompasses a violent lifestyle.
The essence of the middle portion of Dr. Suseelan's presentation was similar to the following comment, which Dr. Suseelan made at Front Page Magazine's blog "Go Postal":
“…Jihadi terrorists are irrational, extreme xenophobic, hostile, and blinded by their dogmatic, fundamentalist faith. The basic premise of Jihadi terrorist is that their violent acts stem from feelings of rage and hatred reinforced by their belief system. Jihadis think and behave differently. They are selfish, impulsive, calculating and act out of their own selfish interest with no regard to the responsible members of society. Whatever their ideology, religious sanction, Jihadis are cunning, intelligent, self-seeking, aware of their criminal acts and incapable of guilt and empathy. Several patterns of thinking drive the Jihadis terrorists, including:Speaking in terms from his area of expertise, Dr. Suseelan pointed out that Islam itself is a closed paradigm which uses force to maintain itself, thereby leading to violence in Islamic societies. Citing Afghanistan as an example, Dr. Suseelan emphasized that merely introducing democracy into this closed paradigm will not succeed in opening the Islamic paradigm and that changing a regime is only a temporary relief from the self-perpetuating a closed dogma disguised in religious garb. Rather, cognitive restructuring is required. He mentioned the following as strategies to use in containing the violence and to promote cognitive restructuring:• Rationalization"Ideas expressed in the Koran provide all the justification necessary for Jihadis to carry out deadly terrorist activities. Jihadi terrorists are primarily afraid of freethinking, liberty, pluralism, secularism, and co-existence. They are defensive, capricious, and conditioned by their outdated irrational fanatic religious dogma…”
• Indifference
• A sense of entitlement
• Super optimism
• Lack of Guilt
• Shallow emotions
• Lack of remorse
• Egocentricity
• Grandiosity
• Don’t accept Islam as just another cultural variant.
• Criticize Islam openly, using the Internet and any available media.
• Stop immigration from Muslim nations.
• Emphasize the humanity of those slaughtered by the followers of Islam.
• Disqualify any Islamic theocracy from having a seat at the United Nations.
• Do not permit Muslim proselytizing in prisons.
Dr. Suseelan’s speech was quite lengthy and complex, and some attendees at the Symposium may have had difficulty in following all his rapidly-made points. Also, the sound of English spoken with a soothing and lilting Indian accent can become the focus of the listener. However, Dr. Suseelan began his presentation with attention-getters, did not speak in euphemisms or politically-correct terms, and included a PowerPoint presentation of graphs, maps, and trends. He substantiated much of what he said with a brief history of Islam, particularly with regard to the five-centuries-long “Holocaust in India” (Eleventh-Sixteenth Centuries), in which 80,000,000 were slaughtered by Muslims in the Indian subcontinent, and also mentioned at least one recent statement which he overheard from a Muslim in New York City after the most recent detonation of a bomb in Tel-Aviv, Israel:
“We need more bombs to kill more Jews.”In other words, he effectively showed that "radical Islam" is not a new development and that jihadism has been characteristic of Islam across the centuries.
In the final portion of his presentation, almost as a musical coda, Dr. Suseelan concluded his speech with visual aids to illustrate how, over the past fourteen centuries, the methods for waging Islamic have progressed from the sword to guns to suicide-bombers to IED’s.
Dr. Suseelan left us with this question: Is the next Jihadist weapon the nuclear bomb?
[Find essays by Dr. Babu Suseelan here.]
posted by Always On Watch @ 5/12/2006 06:15:00 AM
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83 Comments:
"He substantiated much of what he said with a brief history of Islam, particularly with regard to the five-centuries-long “Holocaust in India” (Eleventh-Sixteenth Centuries), in which 80,000,000 were slaughtered by Muslims in the Indian subcontinent"
The American historian Will Durant summed it up like this:
"The Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex of order and freedom, culture and peace, can at any moment be overthrown by barbarians invading from without or multiplying within." (ref http://voi.org/books/negaind/ch2.htm )
The tale is indeed very depressing and discouraging. The process is being repeated in the West, especially in Europe. But few people are aware of it, and nobody has any idea how to stop the barbarians invading and multiplying.
Those who forget the past are condemned to relive it. As the placards in the London cartoon demonstrations said: 'Get ready for the REAL holocaust'
Wow, AoW! Thank you for spending the time to get this info out to us! i'm not real sanguine, but hope springs eternal!
Good morning and G*D bless all!
tmw
Religion of Pieces,
Thank you for that link!
More material from the link (emphases mine):
[T]he number of victims of the persecutions of Hindus by Muslims is easily of the same order of magnitude as that of the Nazi extermination policy, though no one has yet made the effort of tabulating the reported massacres and proposing a reasonable estimate of how many millions exactly must have died in the course of the Islamic campaign against Hinduism (such research is taboo). On top of these there is a similar number of abductions and deportations to harems and slave-markets, as well as centuries of political oppression and cultural destruction....
The ideological foundation of the Islamic campaign was similar to the Nazi ideology. The Muslium invaders (as we can read in numerous documents which they left us, from the Quran and the Hadith onwards) distinguished between three kinds of people: first of all the Muslims, the Herrenvolk (master nation) to which Allah had promised the world; secondly the Jews and Christians, who could live on under Muslim rule but only as third-class citizens, just like the Slavic Untermenschen (inferior people) in Hitler's planned new order, thirdly the species to be eliminated, the real Pagans who had to disappear from the face of the earth.
Different from Hitler's victims, the non-combatants among the unbelievers often got a chance to opt for conversion rather than death....
Before I heard Dr. Suseelan, I had a bit of knowledge about the slaughter on the Indian subcontinent. Most textbooks used in schools, however, gloss over what happened.
Here in Farifax County, Virginia, the Hindu community brought to the attention of the county-wide Social Studies Curriculum Coordinator that newly proposed textbooks were whitewashing Islam in that particular regard. As a result, the County promised that "an extra unit," a supplement packet, would be given to the social-studies teachers; the new textbooks were adopted and are now in use. I don't know if the supplement is being implemented.
It's no surprise, really, that most social-studies textbooks gloss over the atrocities perpetrated by the sons of Allah. After all, Susan Douglass--convert to Islam--is curriculum advisor to the major publishers of those textbooks. Sometimes her name appears in the list of experts at the front of the texts, sometimes not.
Susan Douglass's name appears in the credits for the curriculum guide published by the Council for Islamic Education. That particular guide has become controversial in California, precisely because of its whitewash of Islam.
More on Susan Douglass, from The Sperry Files:
Textbook publisher's statement that confirms that the Muslim activist group Council of Islamic Education (CIE) revised its interactive educational module on Islam used in public schools in several states, including California. The role-playing module instructs public school children to "become Muslims" for three weeks, reciting Muslim prayers and Quranic verses without any critical analysis of Islam. Susan Douglass -- the devout Sunni Muslim, Saudi schoolteacher and special White House guest -- is CIE's top "scholar" and the exclusive consultant to the nation's largest history textbook publishers.
As well as historical atrocities, the connection between Islam and criminality is all too apparent nowadays in the jails of the Western world.
As one of the London bombers put it:
In his posthumous video statement Khan said: "Our religion is Islam - obedience to the one true God, Allah, and following the footsteps of the final prophet and messenger Muhammad... This is how our ethical stances are dictated. (from http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4764345.stm )
In other words, the Muslims' ethical stances are dictated by following in the footsteps of an extortionist, rapist, robber, murderer, torturer, mutilator and pedophile.
Islam is the only major religion not based upon the Golden Rule. In fact, Islam is not a religion in any normal sense, it is more of a criminal brotherhood, like the Mafia.
Must have been very interesting to see in person.
Morning AOW. Great piece. Funny what kind of people the religion of peace seems to attract isn't it?
A little biographical sketch of Dr. Babu Suseelan, from this source:
Dr. Babu Suseelan - an internationally acclaimed columnist, social scientist and clinical psychologist. He has been living in USA for the last three decades. Presently the Professor of Clinical Psychology, University of Pennsylvania, Dr. Babu Suseelan is one of the greatest sons of Kerala. His words are listened with rapt attention by social scientists, security experts and policy makers all over the world. Dr. Suseelan is a strong advocate of India’s age old knowledge system and values. What makes him distinct is his view that human kind should assimilate all progress made in the fields of science and technology without sacrificing the basic tenets of our heritage. International journals vie with one another to publish the papers authored by Dr. Suseelan and that itself is an indication of the respect commanded by him.
UPenn is a well respected university.
Much of Dr. Suseelan's work relates to the Indian Hindu community.
My earlier post seems to be missing.
In any case, a great piece, AOW. It's important to know that the truth is getting out. Also, RoP has a important link. So many more people are spreading the truth today compared to 4 years ago. For example, Bostom on O'Reilly (thanks for the tip) was perfect. O'Reilly still hasn't figured it out which is not too surprising.
Well done, AOW -- more people NEED to speak out against the evil before they completely destroy the US. Just imagine, for a moment if the illegals from Mexico were all mulsims...
And Ducky -- look over there, something shiny!
Jason,
Blogger is temperamental these days. I'll check my email notification to see if your comment made it that far. Sometimes I get notification of a comment which never appears here at the blog.
I saw the O'Reilly segment with Dr. Bostom on Wednesday night. Obviously, O'Reilly didn't have a proper comeback when the CAIR spokesman denied the jihadism verses in the Koran--never mind the Hadith, usually as revered as the Koran. But Dr. Bostom came off well, without any screaming. I wonder if O'Reilly's curiosity will be stirred, but I have my doubts as he often is superficial in his approach.
Dr. Bostom also spoke at the Symposium. The gist of his presentation was a historical survey of jihadism. The schedule listed Bostom's presentation as "Dhimmitude and the uniquely Islamic institution of Jihad." His presentation immediately followed that of Dr. Suseelan and drew on his research for his book The Legacy of Jihad.
I will try to my review Dr. Bostom's presentation on Friday, May 19; but with my busy schedule right now, I can't promise that I'll have it up on that exact date.
AOW - YOU'VE GOT TO SEE THIS:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=22438
talk about cartoonifada!
Well, it DOES matter if prisoners convert to Islam and then launch "lone wolf" jihads, especially if they believe that the highest jihad guarantees them a special place in Paradise. Many hardened criminals already have in place a mindset favorable to converting to Islam.
Arab Muslims look down on black Muslims. I'm not so sure the black followers of Allah are considered "apostates," in all cases. Arabs consider themselves superior to blacks and have enslaved them for centuries; these Arab Muslims were fond of castrating their black male slaves.
Abraham Lincoln read Captain James Riley's book (The title might be Sufferings in the Sahara, but I'll have to check the library web-site to be sure of the exact title), which contained information about Arab-Muslim slave traders in Africa. In fact, Lincoln cited three books which most affected his life: the Bible, Pilgrim's Progress, and Captain Riley's book.
The Arabs and the Persians each consider themselves superior to one another. Islam promotes the superiority of Arabs. And never forget that the Koran is written in Arabic, the "official language" of Allah. Any who can't read and/or recite the passages in the original Arabic are automatically considered inferior.
Wahhabism is fundamental Islam, so Wahhabists deprecate all the other sects.
About nuclear Iran, from this source:
Iran is looking to a summit of eight key Islamic states on Friday to support its campaign for nuclear technology, while calling for solidarity against Western "hegemony."
The meeting in Bali, Indonesia, gives Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad the opportunity to appeal directly to fellow Islamic leaders for backing in the face of steadily increasing Western pressure at the U.N.
The U.S. and European governments want Iran to abandon uranium enrichment, claiming that Tehran is using a civilian nuclear program as a front to develop a nuclear weapons capability. Iran denies the charge.
The D-8 (Developing-8) summit brings together the leaders of eight important Muslim countries - Indonesia, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nigeria, Egypt, Turkey, Malaysia and Iran.
Ahead of the meeting, the host nation, Indonesia, said nuclear energy would feature strongly on the agenda....
Nanc,
I checked that FPM link. So, it's okay to create that type of comic book, but don't satirize MTP with the Danish cartoons???
The real problem Duck is having, along with many (actually most) other liberals is that calling a spade a spade (for lack of a better term) in this current cultural crisis would mean that people (or governments, which represent them) would be compelled to take action upon such a dire and preventable threat. However, if you cloud it in undefinable terms of tolerance with the "multi-culturalism" fabrication they use to explain away their ineptitude to deal with reality, suddenly one is not required in good conscience or even resonable logic to act up said threat.
In other words, the UN's typical reaction. Everyone run around, talk a lot, explain it away and try harder to "understand" them so that you dont have to "DO" anything, yet beat down anyone who points out the obvious with unjust and undue criticism.
love you too there sweetheart, now shush and "let those who have eyes see"
Duck,
Not that you as a "born again" don't consider yourself superior on the basis of nothing more than an internal dialogue.
I knew the above would be your response as you've typed in almost those very words a few times over at Beak's, addressing me. You're so predictable.
And, of course, YOU don't consider yourself superior, with all your bucks and Marxist wisdom.
one of the reasons the Koran is considered divinely ispired is the quality of the poetry
I take it, then, that you've read the Koran? I fully admit that I haven't read the Koran in Arabic; I have enough trouble wading through it in English, especially since the chapters are not in chronological order. I have, however, been to mosque more than once and have heard the words chanted; you won't hear me say that the chanting is not quite beautiful, though the quarter tones rankle my Western-developed ear for music. Nevertheless, I do have a fondness for "exotic" music.
Is all "quality poetry" is divinely inspired? Hmmmm....There's a thought, but who determines the definition of "quality" plays in as well.
Whatever. I'm off to work in just a few minutes. Maybe someone else will come along to trade barbs with you as that particular activity makes you feel superior.
PS: When my back hurts the way it's hurting today and when I can't even tell my left foot is attached to my body, I just don't have the patience for much exchange.
G,
Duck is just having his own version of a good time. Remember, he's here to help. He tells us so with some frequency, yet accuses us of using aphorisms.
I thought your post was an excellent read, AOW.
Hope you feel better straightaway!
Excellent work AOW!!!..truly brilliant!..thank u thank u for posting this.Sorry I have nothing intellectual to add....it was all covered!
osons - did you used to post at fpm?
"Woe unto those who call evil good and good evil..." Truely good is being rejected wholesale worldwide. Matt.10:34-36 sayes it all. And Ducky, those were in red! So what you think and say are no surprise to me, but I have no hatred toward you, only a vast pity at the waste! What is happening was revealed almost 2000 yrs. ago, they are coming true before our eyes. You are not my enemy, but I and others like me are yours.
tmw
AOW,
It all sounds almost like my own words (just much more eloquent).
Violence in embedded into Islam and The Quran is the source of it the same way violence is an integral part of Nazi or communist ideology.
Defining the "enemy" is very important and by classifying our present danger as "extremism" is missing the target by a mile.
Islam in itself has to be brought to the same level in the perception of our societies as Nazism.
On a lot of occasions the Islamic apologist bring up the “you must read the Quran in Arabic to fully appreciate it” line.
This is nonsense since no ordinary Arab could possibly read and understand the original version of this scripture.
The difference between the “old” and “modern” Arabic is as huge as between Latin and Italian.
I hope you know the story behind Muhammad’s aversion to poets and poetry in general. All local Meccan poets (pre-Mohammedan Arabic culture had scores of them) made a laughing stock of Muhammad’s attempt of reciting his revelations.
They mocked his “unrefined” Arabic and his primitive poetry skills and also the fact that he tried to “sell” old stories as religious revelations (they pointed out - this comes from Christianity and this from Zoroastrian religion and so on).
Later he ordered to murder his “tormentors” and destroy their work.
Almost nothing survived this “book burnings”.
The first two poets to be killed were Al-Nadr bin al-Harith and Uqba bin Abu Muayt (March 624 after the Battle of Badr).
Killing of prisoners was until then unheard of (especially that both were from very rich families), as no ransom could’ve been expected.
After winning the battle of Badr Muhammad became cocky and ordered the murder of Asma bint Marwan a poetess, who lived in Medina. She was killed in her sleep by one of Muhammad’s henchman (also 624).
Just one moth after this murder Muhammad ordered Abu Afak another Medinan poet to be assassinated.
Here is the list of the remaining contemporary poets murdered on Muhammad’s orders:
September 624: Kab bin al-Ashraf (mixed Jewish-Arabic ancestry)
July-August 625: Ibn Malik
January 630: after the conquest of Mecca a daughter of Abdullah bin Katal’s who was a singer and poetess.
After this cultural cleansing all Arabs decided that Muhammad’s verses were the purest and the most beautiful and this became the official “party” line parroted by generations of terrorized Muslims and moronic Western apologists.
BTW AOW you must read Mein Kampf in German to appreciate its the sheer beauty and the power and wisdom radiating from it.
Better still if you can listen to Wagner and watch a video showing one of the Nazi rallies and listen to Fuhrer speeches.
Earth shattering experience.
Poetry in motion.
Ducky,
80 million was the total number of Hindu infidels sacrificed to Allah (the brothel-keeper and god-impersonator) over six or seven centuries of Razzia.
It works out at about 120,000 Allahu Akhbar-style beheadings a year. Well within the capabilities of the pre-Auschwitz technology of these proto-Nazis.
there used to be someone named "THAINE" at fpm who posted in all caps - that's all - i haven't seen him for awhile and thought you may be him. thanks for responding.
In my previous post I used the word 'razzia'. It has been pointed out that this is an Italian word refering to a Muslim slaving/ plundering/raping raid, and the correct tranliteration from the Arabic is actually 'Ghazi'
'Ghazi' is an originally Arabic word, from ghazd, 'to fight', also adopted by such languages as Turkish for Muslims vowed to combat non-believers.
For the ghāzīs in the marches, it was a religious duty to ravage the countries of the infidels who resisted Islam, and to force them into subjection. (Cambridge History of Islam, p. 283)
Also:
After the conquests had come to an end, the legal specialists laid down that the Caliph had to raid enemy territory at least once a year in order to keep the idea of jihad alive. (Peters, Jihad in Classical and Modern Islam: A Reader, p. 3)
- My profound apologies to any Muslims who have read my previous posts for my linguistic confusion misrepresenting the practices of the most sacred rites of their religion. - Razzia is a bad Islamophobic word. 'Ghazi' is the real Islam.
Missing Link,
I doubt that Dr. Suseelan is more eloquent than you.
And thank you for posting that long comment. You made the point for me during my absence.
"...why our ideas are valid, and the ones held by Islam, fascism, communism, and even narcissism are not"
Sorry.
Now we have conclusive proof the Duck is out of his mind. The Koran is not poetic as anything in a semitic tounge sounds poetic due to the Semitic language structure.
The torah also has musical notes and is sung as well. However if you weren't such an ignoramus you would know that too.
I suppose we could place notes in the Communist Manifesto but it would never remove the stench of 100,000,000 dead. Your ignorance of the basic history of Islam is the parties position.
Beamish in 08
Beak,
Bwahahahaha!!!
Nobody says it like Beak.
Bwahahahaha!!!
cubed and aow - right as rain. too many eerie similarities for it all the be attributable to craziness.
and, o.t., but the last time i saw iran watch was at democracy frontline yesterday morning.
• Rationalization
• Indifference
• A sense of entitlement
• Super optimism
• Lack of Guilt
• Shallow emotions
• Lack of remorse
• Egocentricity
• Grandiosity
Kinda sounds a little like Washington too. (No kinda to it)
Thanks for posting on this event. It has been most interesting.
Thank you for the information. I too believe nuclear weapons will be the terrorists tools.
Always:
“The ideology behind terrorism is Islam. Period."
I have always said this. It should be obvious to all except those who do not wish to see. And of course we all know that there are none so blind as those who do not wish to see!
I wish I had been there to listen to Dr. Babu Suseelan! It seems as though he told it like it really is!
This is an excellent blog, Always; it really lays it on the line. I wish GWB would stop by and read it, too!
Nothing is so stupid than to ignore the lessons of history! The history of confrontation with Islam goes back a long way. It beggars belief that there are so many 'educated' people around who are totally unwilling to accept the reality of what is staring them in the face.
Westerners and their 'leaders' have been too tolerant of this death cult for far, far too long. Tolerance is generally good; but not in all cases. There is such a thing as being too tolerant. We have become just that!
It is high time that we started appreciating our own CULTURE and CIVILIZATION. It is also high time that we started doing what is necessary to ensure its survival. For one thing is absolutely sure: Islam will destroy it all: our way of life; our liberty; our free-thinking; our creativity; our art, our progress; our tolerance; our culture; our everything! Only to replace it all with barbarism and a blind faith in the elusive Allah and his false prophet!
let's see if my comment comes in anonymous. two up was mine to cubed and aow. nanc
A bit more about Muslim proselytizing in the American prison-system, from this source:
When prisoners in New Folsom State Prison near Sacramento become adherents to the political ideology of radical Wahhabi Islam, form a terrorist cell while in prison (Jamat Ul-Islam Is Saheeh) and plot terrorist acts against three National Guard facilities, the Israeli Consulate and several synagogues in the Los Angeles area; when accused "Dirty Bomber" Jose Padilla (a.k.a. Abdullah al-Muhajir) a former Chicago street gang member converts to Islam during a term at a Broward County, Florida jail and falls in with terrorist recruiters after his release; when Aqil Collins, a self-confessed jihadist turned FBI informant, converts to Islam while doing time in a California juvenile detention center and later trains with one of the men accused of kidnapping and beheading Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl; when convicted terrorists from the 1993 World Trade Center bombing are put into their prison's general population and proselytize other inmates in radical Islam because prison officials fear being accused of "religious profiling"; or when Muslim inmates are allowed to conduct radical Islamic, virulently anti-American and anti-Western services in loosely monitored prison chapels across our nation...there is something going on in our prison system that relates directly to our current war on Islamic radicalism.
For years, the Washington-based Center for Security Policy has been tracking the infiltration of U.S. prisons by agents of Saudi Wahhabism....
The conversion program is funded with Saudi money through the National Islamic Prison Foundation, an organization that underwrites “prison outreach” but whose real goal is the conversion of large numbers of inmates (primarily African-American) not only to Wahhabism, but to its radical Islamist agenda....and the effort is both successful and, for the most part, hidden from public view.
Islam is the fastest growing religion among young, incarcerated African-Americans. Some figures suggest that one out of three African-Americans in federal prison are Muslim and most converted during their imprisonment. With an estimated 250,000 Muslim inmates in the nation's prisons (making up 10% to 17% of the prison and jail population), there are reasons for concern especially since Foundation officials claim an average of 135,000 additional conversions per year. When these inmates are released from prison with the customary $10, a suit of clothes and a one-way bus or train ticket, they know any mosque or masjid (Islamic Center) will shelter and feed them and help them find a job. Prison authorities believe that these converted inmates could serve as terrorists once they are released, murdering their own countrymen in a kind of "payback" for perceived injustices done to them by "white America."
The radical Muslim chaplains who carry out these proselytization efforts are trained and certified for the U.S. Bureau of Prisons by two specific Wahhabi-oriented institutions in the U.S. - The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) based in Plainfield, Indiana and the Graduate School of Islamic and Social Sciences (GSISS) which was recently renamed Cordoba University and is located in Ashburn, Virginia. According to the October 2003 Senate testimony of Dr. Michael Waller of the Institute of World Politics, Operation Green Quest (the American financial response to 9/11) raided GSISS offices in March 2002 for "potential money laundering and tax evasion activities and their ties to terrorist groups such as al Qaeda as well as individual terrorists.... (including) Osama bin Laden." The GSISS was raided because of its suspected funding ties to the World and Islam Studies Enterprise, a terrorist front group established by former University of South Florida professor Sami Al-Arian who was recently convicted for heading the American fundraising efforts of Palestinian Islamic Jihad. Al-Arian currently faces deportation....
In our prison system, Islamist imams have demanded, and, for the most part, have been granted the exclusive franchise for Muslim proselytization to the forceful exclusion of moderates. This surge of radical Wahhabism in our prisons has had a profound and unfortunate impact upon moderate non-Wahhabi Muslims, most notably Shi'ite Muslims and spiritual Muslims known as Sufis. Not only are they subject to religious intimidation, but moderate Islamic literature has also begun disappearing from prison libraries....
More information at the above link.
Kev,
How can anyone, including daffy duck, dispute what has been said here?
Ducky gets his jollies by disputing whatever he can find provided what he finds is not leftist in orientation.
Ogre,
Just imagine, for a moment if the illegals from Mexico were all mulsims...
Conversion to Islam has reached Latin America. I've read that mosques are sprouting up in the jungles.
The Latinos' Spanish ancestors must be rolling in their graves, after all that Spain went through from 711-1492.
Eyes,
The philosophy of islam is closer to that of Charles Manson than Jesus Christ.
I had that very thought when I heard Dr. Suseelan speak. So many parallels, among them the cult aspect.
Dr. Suseelan didn't reference Charles Manson, however.
Religion of Pieces,
Islam is the only major religion not based upon the Golden Rule.
Thank you for pointing that out. I believe that Ali Sina has made that point in one of his essays.
In fact, Islam is not a religion in any normal sense
As Jason likes to put it--"a geopolitical ideology."
Our prisons have already become a breeding ground for conversion to Islam. If Islam truly parallels the criminal mindset, many inmates are already primed.
Religion of Pieces,
From that link you provided:
Home Secretary John Reid has rejected suggestions London bomber Sidique Khan blamed his actions on the Iraq war.
Mr Reid was asked if ministers wished to avoid a public inquiry because they feared it would fuel a debate about Iraq being a motive of the bombers.
He said Iraq had not been mentioned in the bombers' wills or testaments.
If the above is so, many Western assumptions about the source of the hatred has been misplaced.
Subject/Verb agreement: "have been misplaced."
Yes, it is a political ideology first and foremost. By the way, someone who looks like you linked to my article about Mohammad's Ethnic Cleansing of Medina on another discussion board. People there did some research and have had to agree with me even if they aren't comfortable about my terminology.
Cubed,
They aren't insane. Mostly, they are evil people making evil choices. Many of them have been thoroughly brainwashed, but they don't fit the criteria (in medicine) for psychosis.
Thank you for saying that! All too often, we say that somebody is crazy, when the truth is that he is praciticing a code which, by our definition, is amoral.
My grandmother, who hailed from the hills of east Tennessee, used to say that we too freely bandy about the word "crazy." She said, "Sometimes it's not 'crazy.' It's just pure meanness."
IMO, narcissism if left unchecked, leads to amorality. Self-centeredness to the exclusion of the feelings of all others leads to the inability to hold oneself acoountable. And because Islam doesn't have any equivalent of the Golden Rule, the followers of MTP and of Allah are primed to be the supreme narcissists. If that narcissism is advocated and reinforced from a young age, conscience, as we know the term, is corrupted and perverse.
As Dr. Phares pointed out at the Symposium, our justice system is too ignorant about Islam to be able to reach just verdicts/sentences and to "understand" this particular type of criminal, who amounts to a counterculturalist. Counterculturalists are not necessarily psychotic, just out to change the world order. And that brings me around to Hitler and Stalin, and their like.
Counterculturalists who want to dominate and/or kill all who don't subscribe to their system--that's how I see Islamists. Now, where is the room for compromise? I don't see any, especially since the paradigm is kept closed by means of force and thus suppresses or destroys the conscience.
Regarding AOW's comment:
"And because Islam doesn't have any equivalent of the Golden Rule, the followers of MTP and of Allah are primed to be the supreme narcissists"
One should be aware that the bombheads often practise taqiyya by claiming that the following saying of The Pervert is the Mohammedan version of the Golden Rule:
"No one of you is a believer until he desires for his brother that which he desires for himself." - Hadith recorded by al-Bukhari, Sunnah
In fact, this is Allah's command to ignore, break and desecrate the Golden Rule. It is an injunction to rape, pillage, castrate and murder.
The word 'brother', in the Islamic context, does not mean a blood relative. Neither does it mean a fellow human being. What is means is a male member of the Ummah. Check out any Muslim website and you will find 'brother' used in this sense. Muslims only address fellow Muslims as 'brother', they never use this term to najis Kaffirs.
So what this Hadith actually says is: "No one of you is a believer until he desires for his fellow male Muslim that which he desires for himself"
And what does he desire for himself? Plunder, sexually submissive women and children, African eunuchs, severed Judeo-Christian heads and 72 virgins in Allah's celestial brothel.
This Hadith is about 'Honor among thieves'. It has nothing to do with the Golden Rule or the ethics of reciprocity.
Genuine religions bring out the best in people - Islam does the opposite.
Jason,
By the way, someone who looks like you linked to my article...
Yes, there is a resemblance. But that particular avatar is the original Rosie, with the original motto. Wareen changed some details in my avatar, including the background color and the shape of the eyes.
Rosie the Riveter is in the public domain, and I'm seeing her in several places, including a car-maintenance book for women.
Religion of Pieces,
One thing is for sure...Islam doesn't allow for the Christian concept of loving one's enemy. Just look at the restrictions within the Islamic definition of "brother."
Kyle,
The character of every major ideology reflects that of its founder.
Islam was founded as a male-centrist ideology, and panders to all kinds of sexual desires which satisfy men. And, yes, pedophilia is included.
AOW - A MUST READ - came in a newsletter i receive and i had to go hunting for it, but finally found it here:
http://www.nfbnet.org/pipermail/faith-talk/2004-January/003606.html
interesting.
Courageous guy. Nice find, AOW. I still think we need to go a few steps further than he advocates, but it was good to see islam itself blamed for the crimes of its followers.
The best way to deal with islam is to criminalize it as a terrorist organization, and then prosecute the vermin, and those quislings who support them, ruthlessly and without mercy.
Good point Kyle.
It is a shame 12 steps won't work for most of them. They do display the same sympoms of an addict.
Happy Mothers Day all you Moms, you know who you are!
May it be blessed and beautiful!
tmw
TMW,
I don't have any biological children, and Mom died in 1987. Mother's Day now is not one of my favorite times of the year.
But the loveliest thing happened last night....I heard a knock on the front door. And who was there? One of my homeschool students and her mother. This student gave me a bouquet of flowers and a special card--a Mother's Day card; where the card said "Mom," she had crossed out the word and written "Teacher" so that the front of the card read "For My Teacher." The verse inside the card is lovely, and the student also wrote me a beautiful, personal note which basically said that I, as a teacher, have been a mother to my students.
The little tribute from that student made my day!
Happy Mother's Day to you, TMW. I hope that you get some pampering.
You're linked to the Mad Zionist. Happy Mother's Day!
-MZ
MZ,
I'll reciprocate right now. Thanks!
Religion of Pieces is right on target as usual!
Great Post and some grest comments
AoW- I have found some of the most motherly, loving, caring Mothers weren't physical ones but spiritual, emotional and intellectual ones! So you are included in the HAPPY MOTHERS DAY Aow! Bet Mothers Day in heaven will find you babied, pampered, primped and waitted on hand and foot! So there!
tmw
AOW, fantastic job!!!!!!!! Sounds like you had quite an experience at this symposium. Simply amazing.... Thanks for letting us know about this!
An excellent post, AOW. This is the kind of meat that bloggers look for and hope to duplicate. I loved it! And it's always amusing to hear Ducky explode in a flurry of Leftist cliches, insults and sarcasm. I suspect he named himself after the little rubber ducky his mom gives him when he takes a bath.
Some more information on the history of Islamic criminality. A little-known feature of Islam was state-sponsored piracy and slave raids against Western Europe, which only ceased with the Anglo-Dutch naval bombardment of Algiers in 1816.
This topic is NEVER taught in European school history classes.
Ref
http://www.bnp.org.uk/columnists/brimstone2.php?leeId=69
Stogie,
Thank you for the compliment. I DO try to come up with good material. I can't do that every single day nor every single time, however.
I have no idea as to how Mr. Ducky came up with his handle, but you might have a good theory. Wasn't there some kind of 60s comedy routine about "rubber ducky"?
Religion of Pieces,
I'm off to check that link right now.
Religion of Pieces,
From the link you provided:
The Islamic terror began in ‘the terrible summer of 1625’ when North African corsair slave raiders invaded and devastated the southern coasts of England, and for a short while even raised the green battle standard of Islam over English territory that had engraved upon it the terrible promise “The gates of Paradise are under the shade of swords ." From the coast of Cornwall, Devon, Dorset and Southern Ireland the Islamic slave raiders murdered and stole away entire villages to be sold into slavery in the Islamic Empire of the East....
The impact of these attacks on the European nations attacked by the murderous pirates was devastating – France, England, and Spain each lost thousands of ships, and long stretches of the Spanish and Italian coasts were almost completely depopulated and abandoned by their inhabitants. At its peak, the destruction and depopulation of some European areas probably exceeded what European slavers would later inflict on the African interior when indigenous African slave traders sold their fellow blacks to European slave traders. Europe at that time was in the grip of fear from Islam....
Just goes to prove that terrorism is nothing new in Islam. And there's lots more to the article. Thank you for providing the information!
How much of Columbus's quest for a new route was due to Islamic disruption of certain trade routes? I should check Trifkovic's and Bostom's books on that topic.
Here's an ammo drop for everyone's anti-Islamic information arsenal, suitable for printing, or reading online via the table of contents on the right sidebar.
(In case anyone hasn't read this yet)
in case anybody wants to write to mouse-owey (courtesy democracy frontline):
ZACARIAS MOUSSAOUI
51427-054
Inmate Mail/Parcels
FLORENCE ADMAX USP
PO BOX 8500
FLORENCE, CO 81226
U.S.A.
Mr. Beamish,
I've added that link to my right sidebar--"Prophet of Doom (PDF)." I recommend that those who want to uncover the whitewash of Islam take a look at that site.
Nanc,
Write to Moussaoui? I think my letter would be censored.
did you see the article at democracy frontline? yep, they'd highlight mine with a black sharpee also!
you've said you needed some lighthearted time - i sent you just the thing you need - check your messages - needs a sturdy chair with good arms!
I see Ducky is doing his rounds and throwing sand in our eyes!
tmw
ALLAH THE METEORITE
One line of attack on Islam which doesn't seem to have been followed up in the blogosphere concerns the existence of Allah. Some atheists have tried to prove that Allah doesn't exist, but it may be far more damaging to Islam to demonstrate that Allah does indeed exist and to show where 'he' resides and what 'he' is.
Christians and Jews believe that G_d is transcendent and omnipresent, he is not located in any particular place and indeed both transcends and permeates the physical structure of the universe.
In total contrast, Muslims are obsessively concerned with directing their prayers towards one particular location on planet earth, and line up their prayer mats and build their mosques pointing within a fraction of a degree towards Mecca. Muslim astronauts get particularly confused when in orbit because their god resides on earth - the majesty of the cosmos is lost on them. They believe that if you don't aim your prayers accurately at Mecca they won't have any effect. Very strange!
So we must conclude that Allah lives somewhere in Mecca. The entire city, including hotels, car parks, public lavatories, electricity substations etc cannot be equally and universally holy. So what is the object of this idolatrous worship?
The structure that every Muslim bows down to five times a day is Allah's house - the Kaaba.
And yes, inside it you will find Allah himself, who does indeed exist, and is none other than - a meteorite!
Allah is a chunk of space junk!
Having trouble with my connection and using primitive dial-up just to post this notice.
Later!
Nanc,
i sent you just the thing you need - check your messages
I didn't see anything from you, from your usual email address. Let me check my spam folder.
Nanc,
My spam folder is empty. Resend?
Duck,
This symposium is supposed to be some big deal. No just what happened?
Education. Your definition of that word probably differs from mine.
You attend your classes, and I attend mine.
Religion of Pieces,
One line of attack on Islam which doesn't seem to have been followed up in the blogosphere concerns the existence of Allah.
Along those lines, read "Muhammad's Night Vision," by Cubed of Sixth Column. First few paragraphs:
Islam’s origin is ascribed to a vision in which the angel Gabriel appeared to the still pagan Muhammad. Many explanations have been proposed as the source of the vision(s), ranging from divine inspiration, demonic possession, psychiatric disorders, dreams, trances, seizures, or just plain lies and deceptions.
There is another explanation for Muhammad’s vision, if its description is revisited in the light of what is known now, in the 21st century....
Although the above doesn't directly address what you said in your comment, I think you'll find Cubed's article very interesting. Also, Sixth Column's Web Page, not the same as the blog, is an excellent source for erudite articles of many types.
I believe that Dr. Anis Shorrosh has addressed the matter of the origins of Allah. A link to his web site is on my right sidebar. The title of that link is "Dr. Shorrosh."
Duck,
Yes AOW, we attend our seperate classes. However, you continue to attend the same one.
That's as far as YOU know. I don't report on everything I do or study.
Kev,
You've pointed out what has puzzled me by the defenders of the enemy sworn to the destruction of our way of life:
people who terrorize, and murder very viciously, in the name of their "god." These animals murder their own children in pursuit of... whatever. How can you justify setting a bomb where innocent people, including babies and young children, will assemble, killing and maiming them, because these islamic fanatics hate others, not of their "relgion"?
Islam itself divides the world into Muslims and "other." No room for multiculturalism in that way of thinking.
One major difference - perhaps THE most important difference - between the ethical standards of Muslims and those of the rest of humanity, is that Muslim ethics are dictated solely by Mohammed in the form of his instructions in the koran, and also by the example of his actions.
To Muslims, Mohammed is the 'perfect man' (al-insan al-kamil) and can do no wrong. Following his example is pleasing to Allah.
Everything else is 'man-made' and contrary to Allah's will. So to the Muslim, Mohammed's venomous, psychopathic, hate-filled rantings (koran) and his murderous, predatory, pedophilic example (hadith) are the sole arbiters of what is right and wrong.
This means that the Muslim must reject both the Golden Rule, and also the inner voice of his own conscience (both of which are so important in Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhism, Bahai etc).
If you convert to Islam you must stop thinking for yourself (one of its attractions for some people) . If you are born a Muslim, you are never allowed to start thinking for yourself. And, of course, you need never obey your conscience if Mohammed has given you an excuse to follow his own repulsive example.
Since Mohammed was a mass-murderer and child-rapist, then there's nothing wrong with murdering and raping children.
Beslan? - Allahu Akhbar!!!
Religion of Pieces,
If you convert to Islam you must stop thinking for yourself (one of its attractions for some people) .
What you said in the parens is exactly one reason for some people's attraction to Islam. All one's thinking is pre-set, so to speak.
Everything else is 'man-made' and contrary to Allah's will.
Not only contrary, but also deserving of punishment or expungement!
AoW- I just read on FPM a disturbing article about Iran and the SCO(Shanghai Cooperation Organization), our enemies are joinning together!
tmw
Mark,
This is an excellent blog, Always; it really lays it on the line. I wish GWB would stop by and read it, too!
A few months ago, I sent some links to the President's office, but I don't think they were much appreciated. I got a letter back which emphasized the importance of all religions in our cultural fabric.
I got a letter back which emphasized the importance of all religions in our cultural fabric.
Well, murderers give the cops something to do between donuts.
"I got a letter back which emphasized the importance of all religions in our cultural fabric."
There are some creepy-crawly things eating away at our cultural fabric that could benefit from an application of cultural mothballs, or some more powerful cultural insecticide.
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