Sunday, July 23, 2006

Hezbollah: Not Just "Over There"

(All emphases by Always On Watch)

Those of us who are studying the Islamification of the United States are already aware of the largest Muslim community here in the United States; that community is in and around Dearborn, Michigan. Therefore, it should come as no surprise that at least some Muslims in that vicinity are supportive of Islamic terrorist organizations.

According to Diana West's "Hezbollah and Main Street," which appeared in the July 21, 2006 Washington Times,
"...[T]his isn't, as they say, your father's heartland. Hezbollah itself is popular in Dearborn, which can fill a banquet hall to celebrate 'Lebanon Liberation Day' -- the day Hezbollah claims as victory when Israeli forces withdrew in 2000. Osama Siblani, the publisher of Dearborn's Arab American News, considers members of Hezbollah -- along with Hamas and other jihadist groups -- freedom fighters. And, as Mr. Siblani tells it to the Detroit News, he's not alone: 'If morally supporting Hizbollah or associating with [Hezbollah spiritual leader Muhammad Hussein] Fadlallah is a crime, "there is not going to be enough buses to haul the people out and take them to jail."'

"Mr. Siblani was speaking before the Israeli offensive began. But not before the 1983 Hezbollah bombings in Beirut, Lebanon, which killed 241 U.S. servicemen, 63 U.S. Embassy personnel and 58 French paratroopers. And not before the 1984 Hezbollah torture-murder of CIA station chief William Buckley in Lebanon. And not before the 1985 Hezbollah hijacking of TWA Flight 847 and the torture-murder of Navy diver Robert Stethem. And not before the 1988 Hezbollah torture-murder of Lt. Col. William Higgins. And not before the Hezbollah bombings of the Israeli Embassy in Buenos Aires in 1992, killing 29; the Jewish Community Center in Buenos Aires in 1994, killing 96; or the Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia in 1996, killing 19 U.S. servicemen...."
So how active is Hezbollah here on our continent? And in what kind of activities is the organization engaged? On July 19, 2006, Andrew Cochran published a reference list at Counterterrorism Blog (with internal links at the original site), reproduced below in its entirety:

Racketeering, Money Laundering, Terrorism Financing:

* U.S.A. v. Mohamad Youssef Hammoud et al., Charlotte, North Carolina: 25 individuals charged in connection with cigarette smuggling, money laundering, credit card fraud, marriage fraud and immigration violations. Four individuals were charged with providing “material support or resources to a foreign terrorist organization,” Hizballah, specifically providing “currency, financial services, training, false documentation and identification, communications equipment, explosives, and other physical assets to Hizballah, in order to facilitate its violent attacks.” In 2003, Mohamad Hammoud was sentenced to 155 years in prison, while his brother, Chawki, was sentenced to 51 months.

* U.S.A. v. Elias Mohamad Akhdar et al. (pdf), Dearborn, Michigan: 11 co-defendants charged with racketeering related to the Charlotte, North Carolina scheme. In January, 2004, Akhdar was sentenced to 70 months in prison and was fined over $2,000,000 after having pled guilty in July, 2003.

* U.S.A. v. Imam Mohamad-Musbah Hammoud, et al., Michigan, Canada (Ontario, Quebec), Lebanon: In March, 2006, 19 co-defendants charged with a racketeering scheme involving contraband cigarettes, counterfeit Zig Zag rolling papers and counterfeit Viagra, counterfeit cigarette tax stamps, transporting stolen property, and money laundering. A percentage of the profits derived from the illegal enterprise were given to Hizballah. On July 7, two of the defendants, Imad Majed Hamadeh and Theodore Schenk, 73 pled guilty (pdf). Hamadeh and Schenk face a maximum possible penalty of 20 years imprisonment and a $250,000 fine.

Weapons and Planning:

* U.S.A.. v. Mahmoud Youssef Kourani (pdf), Dearborn, Michigan: In November, 2003, charged with being a “member, fighter, recruiter, and fundraiser” for Hizballah. In June, 2005, Kourani was sentenced to 4 ½ years in prison.

* U.S.A. v. Naji Antoine Abi Khalil, Montreal, Quebec; New York: Canadian/Lebanese dual citizen conspired with an Israeli, Tomer Grinberg, and charged with attempting to export military night vision goggles and infrared aiming equipment to Hizballah. In February 2006, Khalil was sentenced to 60 months in prison.

* U.S.A. v. Ali Boumelhem, Dearborn, Michigan: Man convicted in September 2001 of attempting to smuggle two shotguns, 750 bullets and assault weapon parts in a conspiracy to aid Hizballah, and 5 weapons violations. He was sentenced to 44 months in jail.

Tax Evasion:

* U.S.A. v. Talal Khalil Chahine et. al, Dearborn, Michigan: Restaurant owner and wife, Elfat El Aouar, in May 2006, charged with four counts of tax evasion and the concealment of more than $16,000,000 of cash from the federal government. The U.S. government, in a written proffer of evidence (in U.S.A. v. Elfat El Aouar, Cr. No. 06-20248, EDMI, 5/22/2006), states that Chahine and his wife attended a fundraising event in Lebanon in August 2002 with Hizballah Sheikh Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah, a Specially Designated Terrorist (see page 8), where the two men were the keynote speakers. The proffer also claims that a search of El Aouar’s residence turned up a “thank you letter” for sponsoring 40 “orphans,” as well as images of Chahine and his family in front of a Hizballah outpost. According to the proffer, “[t]he government is aware that the sponsorship of orphans is a euphemism used by Hizballah to refer to the orphans of martyrs. This is a common public relations and recruitment tool used by Hizballah. Hizballah gains favor with the public in Lebanon by supporting ‘orphans,’ while at the same time recruiting others into the terrorist organization willing to sacrifice their lives in terrorist operations based in part on the promise that Hizballah will take care of their families.” The government has yet to charge Chahine or his wife with any terrorism-related offense.

Drug Running:

* U.S.A. v. Mohammad Shabib, Cleveland, Ohio: Federal prosecutors charged Mohammad Shabib with hiding his role in a drug ring which profits were funneled to Hizballah. Shabib, a gas station owner, had $8,000,000 in a Chicago bank account, which authorities say Shabib amassed by shipping roughly 3 tons of pseudoephedrine from Canada to California, which he would sell to Mexican gangs who would use the drugs to produce methamphetamine. (See: Amanda Garrett, “Terrorists’ Money Takes Convoluted Path in U.S.,” The Cleveland Dealer, January 18, 2004).

Mexico: Human Trafficking:

* Mexico v. Salim Boughader Mucharrafille, Tijuana, Mexico: Boughader, proprietor of a Lebanese restaurant in Mexico, ran a smuggling ring into the U.S. Before he was arrested in December 2002, Boughader had trafficked roughly 200 Lebanese nationals, including Hizballah-linked individuals, across the border and into the U.S. Boughader admitted transporting a former employee of al-Manar television, which is owned and operated by Hizballah and currently designated by the U.S. government as a terrorist entity. Boughder is quoted as saying, “[f]or us, Hezbollah are not terrorists."

Other:

* U.S.A. v. Nemr Ali-Rahal et. al. (pdf), Dearborn, Michigan: Husband and wife pled guilty in January 2006 to credit card and bank fraud worth more than $500,000. Ali-Rahal was sentenced to 33 months in prison (see right side text box). While he was not charged with any terrorism related offenses, when FBI agents arrested Ali-Rahal, they discovered, in his home, Hizballah-related materials including a videotape of a 2002 Hizballah rally in Lebanon at which Rahal was present in Lebanon, as well as a collection of books, posters and videos including one titled “A Martyr Speaks About Martyrs” and a photo showing Rahal burning an American flag.

* Hizballah-linked Counterfeit Goods Ring in Los Angeles (pdf), Los Angeles, CA: Testimony of Lieutenant John C. Stedman, Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department, May 25, 2005: “There are also indicators that some associates of terrorist groups may be involved in (Intellectual Property Right/)IPR crime. During the course of our investigations, we have encountered suspects who have shown great affinity for Hezbollah and its leadership. The following are just two examples: during the search of a residence pursuant to an IPR related search warrant, I saw small Hezbollah flags displayed in the suspect’s bedroom. Next to the flags was a photograph of Hassan Nasrallah whom I recognized as the leader of Hezbollah. The suspect’s wife asked me if I knew the subject of the photograph. I identified Nasrallah and the wife said, ‘We love him because he protects us from the Jews’. Also in the home were dozens of audio tapes of Nasrallah’s speeches. During the search, one of my detectives also found a locket which contained a picture of the male suspect on one side and Sheik Nasrallah on the other. In 2004, detectives served an IPR search warrant at a clothing store in Los Angeles County. During the course of the search, thousands of dollars in counterfeit clothing was recovered as were two unregistered firearms. During the booking process, the suspect was found to have a tattoo of the Hezbollah flag on his arm.”

* In 2003, Hizballah’s website carried a page on Hajj with Hizbollah, complete with contact information for regions around the world. The page listed a Canadian phone number soliciting Muslims interested in going on the annual pilgrimage to Mecca. Other phone numbers included Beirut; Conakry, Guinea; Sweden; Switzerland; Ivory Coast; Denmark; Sierra Leone; Togo; Ghana and Gambia for people interested living in those places.

Maybe you've asked yourself, "If Hezbollah is such a terrible terrorist organization, why does it gain support in the Middle East and even here in the West?" The following, from CNN, provides a few clues:
"It opposes Israel and the West, and supports a fundamentalist Muslim government.

"It garners popular support among Lebanese by setting up schools, hospitals and other social services.

"It has become a social/political movement, holding 14 seats in the 128-member Lebanese parliament, according to the parliament's Web site.

"The word 'hezbollah' means 'party of God' in Arabic."
According to Patrick Briley, who has presented some of his findings to high-level staff for the Senate Judiciary and Senate and House Intelligence committees, House Speaker Dennis Hastert, and the 9-11 Commission,
"...There is a terror network in OKC and Norman OK working directly with AlFuqra, AlQaeda, Islamic Jihad, Hamas and Hezbollah (and previously with Iraq and currently with Syria and Iran) capable of assisting in carrying out the current threats of Hezbollah attacks in the US and in OK.

"The network has been well established and growing in OK and working with other similar terror underground networks throughout the US (such as Red House Virginia, Brooklyn and Dallas-HOLYLAND FOUNDATION and INFOCOM) and Canada and Mexico for over 16 years."
Supporting or at least not interfering with Hezbollah is both charity here on earth and a possible avenue to eternal life. While in Islam the only sure way to enter Paradise is through the highest jihad--that is, killing infidels--supporting jihad also has special status.

[Hat-tip to Mr. Beamish for sending me the link to Counterterrorism Blog]

92 Comments:

At 7/23/2006 7:06 PM, Blogger Gayle said...

Wow AOW!!! Lot's of really good information here. You obviously did a lot of research for this post. I was surprised to find out that there were so many Muslims in Dearborn, MI. I think I first found out about that fact from a post Patrick did at Born Again Redneck.

It's a bit scary; I don't think anyone knows how many there really are, a fact which is more that just a tad worrisom! And the ones who are supposed to be "moderate" say nothing against Hezbolla. Well... if they're not against it they're for it. There simply isn't any in-between possible in this current situation.

 
At 7/23/2006 7:13 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Gayle,
Yes, I did a bit of research. Actually, I had to pick and choose what to include; otherwise, the article would have run too long.

Somewhere in my research I read that some 10,000 Muslims rallied in Dearborn last week; I believe that the theme was for Israel to stop the "disproportionate response."

 
At 7/23/2006 7:47 PM, Blogger City Troll said...

what also has to be looked at is the fact that this is just one community. True it's the largest but Hezbooha is spread out in dozens of major cities through out the US. It must also be noted that just last week the head of Hezbooha in Lebanon made the statement that not only are they going to continue to wage war aginst Israel but also against the US inside the US. It is only a matter of time before some of these "Supporters" start self exploding in our school yards and shoping malls...

 
At 7/23/2006 7:47 PM, Blogger City Troll said...

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At 7/23/2006 7:48 PM, Blogger Baron Bodissey said...

If the Shi'ites and the Sunnis can work together, why not add Sufis (Jamaat ul-Fuqra) to the mix?

Sheikh Gilani would definitely be the junior partner, though. JF does not have the breadth and reach of the others.

It does, however, have possibly the best-organized and most extensive networks of American-born Muslim terrorists.

 
At 7/23/2006 7:55 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Baron,
So glad that you stopped by!

One of the points made by Dr. Walid Phares at the Symposium I attended in April is this: there may be several terrorists groups with different names and different foci, but those groups will band together to reach a common goal. "Junior partners," as you so well put it, may also pose a serious threat.

 
At 7/23/2006 8:00 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

City Troll,
Hezbooha is spread out in dozens of major cities through out the US. It must also be noted that just last week the head of Hezbooha in Lebanon made the statement that not only are they going to continue to wage war aginst Israel but also against the US inside the US.

I was expecting that a commenter would mention the above, so thank you for saying that. We can hope that the threats are empty ones, but I believe that is a futile hope.

As you mentioned, we have a plethora of soft targets. Also, I clearly recall an Al-Qaeda training tape which showed how to take over a school.

 
At 7/23/2006 8:05 PM, Blogger The WordSmith from Nantucket said...


Somewhere in my research I read that some 10,000 Muslims rallied in Dearborn last week; I believe that the theme was for Israel to stop the "disproportionate response."


You know what would really be refreshing? Is if these 10,000 Muslims rallied in support of Israel. In support of this President. In support of democracy in Iraq, so that Iraqis may enjoy the very freedoms that they are living with, here in the U.S. And protest against Hezbollah, al Qaeda, and all militant Islamic Jihadists who are terrorizing the world. Wouldn't that be refreshing?

If that were to happen, Islam might start gaining some capital and some credibility as a "religion of peace" instead of the "religion of submission".

 
At 7/23/2006 8:05 PM, Blogger MissingLink said...

Excellent research and sumary although the whole thing is rather depressing.
A few nice chants from the latest pro-terrorism rallies:
lack, red, brown, white!
We support Hezbollah's fight!
We support Hezbollah's fight!
We support Hezbollah's fight!
We support Hezbollah's fight!
Black, red, green, blue!
Black, red, green, blue!
Black, red, green, blue!
Black, red, green, blue!
We support Hamas too!
Palestine will be free, from the river to the sea!
Palestine will be free, from the river to the sea!

 
At 7/23/2006 8:36 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Missing Link,
Aren't those chants just lovely? (sarcasm, of course)

"Palestine...free, from the river to the sea" would annihilate the nation of Israel. Of course, that annihilation is the common goal of both Hamas and Hezbollah.

BTW, I didn't come across any information about Hezbollah in Oz.

Wordsmith,
The Muslims Against Terror rally a little over a year ago had very few in attendance. About 25, I think. The MAS and CAIR refused to participate. At that point, I despaired of seeing any great impact by "moderate Muslims."

 
At 7/23/2006 8:48 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

I just found this over at Right Truth:

WASHINGTON -- Besides uncovering a plot to blow up tunnels in New York City, the FBI is currently investigating 10,000 terrorism cases, according to Joe Billy, Jr., the bureau's chief of counterterrorism. The investigations include cases in Iraq and Afghanistan....

At the same time, because Osama bin Laden has been isolated, al-Qaida has morphed into a sort of franchise operation. Inspired by bin Laden, local groups try to emulate his example. While they try to obtain financing and support from al-Qaida, they generally operate on their own....

The FBI counts the number of terrorism-related arrests and convictions in the hundreds, but thousands of others are charged with immigration violations, thefts, or cigarette smuggling....

 
At 7/23/2006 8:51 PM, Blogger The Merry Widow said...

Orlando, not "that" far from us has a sizable population, as does Tampa. Melbourne has an enclave near FTU(private engineering college), they seem to have left the beaches, until 9/11 we had several families that showed up at the supermarket in black overrobes and black hijabs! In Fla., in the summer, in 90%+ humidity! Duh!

tmw

 
At 7/23/2006 8:56 PM, Anonymous Debbie said...

Great article and round up of the cities involved. Isn't it amazing how Dearborn Michigan keeps popping up? We really need to keep an eye on that place. Cleveland and Toldeo Ohio also as well as North Carolina. I was surprised at the OK connections, but I don't know why. We have both reported on other terror individuals and potential cells there.

Thanks for pointing this one out. We know these people are here and hopefully the government is watching them very closely. Nothing we can do unless we catch them actually DOING something illegal. That is how they fund Hezbollah.

 
At 7/23/2006 9:02 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

TMW,
until 9/11 we had several families that showed up at the supermarket in black overrobes and black hijabs!

Fundamentalists, then. If they also wear elbow-length gloves, they are even more fundamentalist. Fundamentalist translates into radical when it comes to Islam.

 
At 7/23/2006 9:11 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Debbie,
hopefully the government is watching them very closely

The Patrick Briley link, near the end of the blog article, seems to indicate otherwise. :(

Some of the recent arrestees, particularly those in Miami, appeared to be bumblers. But, as you pointed out over at your blog, the 9/11 hijackers would have so appeared had they not been successful with their jihad mission.

 
At 7/23/2006 9:25 PM, Blogger nanc said...

quite eyeopening, aow. great job you've done here.

the part recently i've heard that is not being addressed enough is that these terrorists are in training in mexico for up to a year and slide in here with the illegals and a phony hispanic identity. how hard can that be given our illegal problem. some of them even have names like hussein gonzalez! i made that name up, but you know what i mean.

 
At 7/23/2006 9:32 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Nanc,
the part recently i've heard that is not being addressed enough is that these terrorists are in training in mexico for up to a year and slide in here with the illegals and a phony hispanic identity

I heard that on FNC! Thank you for reminding us of that avenue of entry.

BTW, I saw in the WaPo today that Fidel Castro has been in Venezuela, visiting with Hugo Chavez (among others).

 
At 7/23/2006 9:43 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

A couple of stories about Arab terrorists crossing our southern borders:

In 2004 and in 2001.

 
At 7/23/2006 10:17 PM, Blogger MissingLink said...

AOW
Hezbollah was banned I think in 2003.
Most of australian Muslims are Shiite though and they are in fact either supporting or sympathetic to Hezbollah.
Last Saturday the 'peace' protesters sported Hezbollah's flags.

 
At 7/23/2006 10:30 PM, Blogger WomanHonorThyself said...

Brilliant read AOW!..I did a post with a similar theme..but this info. is powerful!..:)

 
At 7/23/2006 11:10 PM, Blogger Eleanor © said...

Excellent article. Yes, these fifth columnists are everywhere. Does anyone suspect the "Americans of convenience" that are at this moment being ferried back at government expense to the United States?

According to Fox News, there are 25,000 Americans living in Lebanon and twice that many from Canada. What's up with that? Only a fool would believe that they are all tourists out to have a good time.

 
At 7/23/2006 11:36 PM, Anonymous Mustang said...

As usual, well done, AOW. Now it occurs to me, like the man from Terminex, for every cockroach you see, there are 50 that you don't see. I hope our government is mindful that for every enemy they catch (and attempt to prosecute in the already overburdened courts) there are many more that haven't been identified yet. We must continue to be vigilant, and our courts must render justice to the American people.

Semper Fi

 
At 7/24/2006 4:10 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great & Amazing news.
Israeil's 30,000 IDF soldiers fighting with 500, 600 Hezbollah fighters.

Results
25 Israeil Soldiers killded
3 Tanks, demloished
1 Navy Ship demloished
2 Helicopter demloished
11 Civilans Killed

At Hezbollah side,
1 Hezbollah fighter
300 Civilian
Massive civilan homes, infrastructure destroyed.

Great!... Israelis you are doing great:)

 
At 7/24/2006 4:35 AM, Blogger Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

I still cringe at the thought of Al Qaeda backed Balkan Muslim fighters getting dumped into St. Louis along with the Bosnian refugees by the Clinton administration.

We'll never know until we're attacked from within.

 
At 7/24/2006 6:07 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Eleanor,
Thank you for stopping by.

Does anyone suspect the "Americans of convenience" that are at this moment being ferried back at government expense to the United States?

According to Fox News, there are 25,000 Americans living in Lebanon and twice that many from Canada. What's up with that?


And many with dual citizenship, in this post-9/11 world. I've seen mention that many of those ferried back indeed hold that dual citizenship (United States and Lebanon).

 
At 7/24/2006 6:40 AM, Blogger The Merry Widow said...

No A0W, no gloves, but the women were definitely swathed in baggy black! No color, no style, nothing but baggy black. Shortly after we got back to Fla. had to take my late to the big mainland hospital for an infection. Who did we traverse the emergency room with? A definitely ME man, his obviously American(NY accent) wife, dressed from head to toe in a green velvet robe, green hijab(it was the post-ramadan feast) and their daughter. The daughter was burned on the face by a boy at the place of the feast. The mother wasn't trying to comfort her daughter(in public) like I would have if it would have been my daughter! Nor was the boy in the hospital with a bruised bottom either! Bad vibes!
Good morning and G*D bless!

tmw

 
At 7/24/2006 6:48 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Missing Link,
Last Saturday the 'peace' protesters sported Hezbollah's flags.

They should all have been rounded up and deported.

WHT,
I got all wound up, as I've been known to do from time to time. I saw your post, "Time for Pest Control". I'll be by to give it a thorough read.

Mr. Beamish,
I've seen you mention those "refugees" in St. Louis before. How many? Not that numbers are so significant--it takes only a few to work the mayhem.

TMW,
The daughter was burned on the face by a boy at the place of the feast. The mother wasn't trying to comfort her daughter(in public) like I would have if it would have been my daughter! Nor was the boy in the hospital with a bruised bottom either!

Why should he be punished? After all, his only offense was hurting female chattel.

When I taught in the traditional classroom, I had several Muslim students. Yes, in a Christian school. Invariably, the males were given a pass by their parents.

Just last December, my Austrian friend, an ESL teacher in the region of Salzburg, told me about her run-in with some Muslim parents; none of them would hear a bad word about nor tolerate a low grade earned by their sons, but really cracked on their daughters.

 
At 7/24/2006 6:52 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Mustang,
Thank you for the compliment.

Now it occurs to me, like the man from Terminex, for every cockroach you see, there are 50 that you don't see.

Yup. And even more feeding the cockroaches, in one way or another.

 
At 7/24/2006 6:55 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Nanc,
some of them even have names like hussein gonzalez! i made that name up, but you know what i mean.

Several immigrants, legal and otherwise, from Latin America actually have Muslim names. I've noticed that with some of the women. Converts to Islam? I wouldn't doubt it.

 
At 7/24/2006 7:32 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Associated Press, July 24, 2006:

Bush Resists Immediate Mideast Cease-Fire

WASHINGTON (AP) -- White House officials said President Bush remains opposed to an immediate cease-fire to stop violence in the Middle East, despite personal pleas from ally Saudi Arabia that he help stop the bloodshed.

Saudi King Abdullah beseeched Bush to intervene in Israel's military campaign against Hezbollah in Lebanon, where the death toll is approaching 400 after less than two weeks of bombing. Abdullah's request was hand-delivered to Bush by Saudi officials who requested a meeting Sunday at the White House.

"We requested a cease-fire to allow for a cessation of hostilities," Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal told reporters as he departed the West Wing.

"I have brought a letter from the Saudi king to stop the bleeding in Lebanon, and there has been an agreement to save Lebanese lives, Lebanese properties and what the Lebanese have built, and to save this country from the ordeal it is facing," Saud said.

Saud's comment reflected Bush's past statements that all want the violence to stop. But Bush has refused to press for an immediate cease-fire.

"Our position on an immediate cease-fire is well known and has not changed," said White House national security spokesman Frederick Jones....

 
At 7/24/2006 10:03 AM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

Why are we arming and training the Shiias to fight in Iraq and then arming Israel to fight the Shiias in southern Lebanon?

 
At 7/24/2006 12:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

MR Sucky Ducky;

Didn't you already tell us it was for the oil??

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I resent your racist attitude to these 2 groups of people in 2 different countries. Why are you judging them to be the same based on their avowed common religious beliefs??? Don't you tell us that it is bad to do this??

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

When you are willing to ask questions in a non-partisan way that doesn't attempt to infect the answer with your own moral relativity and stupidity we MIGHT be willing to give you an honest answer, rather than the abuse you so richly deserve!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

In other words, the answer is obvious even to you and you are trying to use sloppy logic to twist the dialogue to appear to support you propaganda.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You MORON!!!!!

 
At 7/24/2006 12:45 PM, Blogger G_in_AL said...

We support recognized soviergn nations Duck... Syria and Iran support rogue groups to alleviate their responsibility in the diplomatic arena. You guys seem to never quit get that.

 
At 7/24/2006 12:45 PM, Blogger G_in_AL said...

We support recognized soviergn nations Duck... Syria and Iran support rogue groups to alleviate their responsibility in the diplomatic arena. You guys seem to never quit get that.

 
At 7/24/2006 2:04 PM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

Thank you g for that, now let's try again.

Why are we building arming and training a state friendly to iran when we are arming a state which is indirectly fighting iran?

Can you comment on the broad policy objectives in the mid-east.

 
At 7/24/2006 2:10 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nope MR Sucky Ducky,

still totally directed at a particular result that is propaganda.

Try again!!

Everyone who reads this knows that you are making a statement of your hallucinatory fact and not asking a coherent question.

The last sentence would have qualified except it was proceeded by the garbage.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You MORON!!!!

 
At 7/24/2006 2:42 PM, Blogger Old Soldier said...

AOW, a great eye opening post.

I do not believe there is such a thing as a "moderate Muslim". Islam is comprised of the house of submission and the house of war. The house of submission (whom we would like to think of as moderate) are submissive to Allah who mandates the highest rewards in paradise being given to the martyrs who die killing Infidels. This is hardly a relationship that will generate a moderate element within Islam to whom we can appeal toward reigning in the radicals. By virtue of the tennets of their belief, they submissively support the tennets of jihad.

Our solution will not include any "moderate" Muslims.

 
At 7/24/2006 2:51 PM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

You sound like you are proposing "the final solution" "old soldier".

Did you read the story recently of the troops who were ordered to kill all military age males during a sweep. Made us proud.

I have noticed that the last couple years have produced volumes of muslim scholars in this country. Where did you do your studying?

You start by stating that there are no moderate muslims and that our "solution" will not include moderate muslims. Can I make the assumption that you are seriously demented or would you like to revise that bit of enlightened thought?

 
At 7/24/2006 3:40 PM, Blogger Old Soldier said...

Ducky, I thought we had this conversation regarding your “assuming” anything where I’m concerned…

It does not take a rocket scientist to correlate “I do not believe there is such a thing as a “moderate Muslim” with “Our solution will not include any “moderate” Muslims.” (Because, IMHO, there are no moderate Muslims.) Stop propping up straw men to ensnare; it’s not conducive to civil discourse.

I’m afraid the dementia is all yours, Ducky.

 
At 7/24/2006 3:56 PM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

So what is "our solution"?

Also, what is your background in islamic scholarship. You parrot a lot of cliches that everyone has heard 1000 times but is there any substance to your beliefs?

Are there any moderate muslims in Turkey, China, Indonesia, India? All "bad"?

Do you wear the swastika to bed?

 
At 7/24/2006 4:25 PM, Blogger Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Do you wear the swastika to bed?

I have no idea if Old Soldier is a leftist (the default political position of Hitler) but I'm sure Hitler's greatest non-German fans are Muslims.

 
At 7/24/2006 4:31 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Mr. Beamish said, I'm sure Hitler's greatest non-German fans are Muslims.

HERE is a video along those lines. The translation was recently done.

 
At 7/24/2006 4:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

MR Sucky Ducky:

Please point out all the Moderate Muslims who are outraged by whacko's burning, murdering, and raping in the Name of Islam and Allah in so many countries worldwide??

I claim that if they can't even bring themselves to SPEAK OUT against terrorist tactics then Old Soldier is exactly correct.

Also, you are jumping to conclusions that are negative as always. The claims the soldiers made that they were ORDERED TO KILL ALL MILITARY AGE MALES will probably turn out to be incorrect.

If it is true there will be one or more officers that get to take the Lt. Calley walk.

Unlike the Muslims who KILL ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING and are PROUD of their big bad brave Jihadis for blowing up babies on PURPOSE!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You MORON!!!

 
At 7/24/2006 5:02 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

MR Sucky Ducky:

there IS one other possibility to the alledged orders to kill all military age males.

You, as a typical hate America LEFTIST do not bother to read enough to find out the situation in the village. The young girl who survived told the investigators that she had been told by her parents not to play outside and had been holding her ears because she KNEW the explosion was going to happen.

The town was terrorist controlled and at the time the men were hit there were other firefights going on leaving them with the choice to sit and wait to be wiped out or take the chance that they could attack and run off their attackers.

Not only was this town IslamoNazi controlled, it was known that the villagers regularly COLLABORATED with them. One of their Imams was killed in an attack on coalition forces.

It should also be pointed out that their attackers WERE firing on them from the houses where they entered and shot people.

I'm sorry, but, I just can't even pull out my Crocodile Tears Eyedrops for people who allow the IslamoNazis to attack our troops from their houses. Sometimes the wages for stupidity IS DEATH.

You really need to think about that Sucky!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You MORON!!!

 
At 7/24/2006 6:02 PM, Blogger Old Soldier said...

Ducky, no one parrots clichés the way you do; I am an amateur compared to you.

”Did you read the story recently of the troops who were ordered to kill all military age males during a sweep. Made us proud.”

You don’t miss a trick when it comes to casting a bad light on the military do you? You seem to display a lack of intestinal and moral fortitude with which to defend your beliefs with your life, so you take cheap shots at those who do. That personifies extraordinary elitist liberal arrogance.

“Do you wear the swastika to bed?”

No, Ducky, I don’t, but apparently if you had your way, I would. In another comment stream I once asked you if you truly believed your screeds or were you just stupid. Your question answers my question beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Do I intimidate you to the point of feeling wholly inadequate, therefore you find it necessary to lash out or is your insecurity that overwhelming?

 
At 7/24/2006 6:09 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Anonymous (to Duck),
Please point out all the Moderate Muslims who are outraged by whacko's burning, murdering, and raping in the Name of Islam and Allah in so many countries worldwide??

Those hordes are not there, so one can't point them out. Now, there are a few lone voices, but those who have spoken out against the atrocities--where those few are Muslims or not--often live in fear of losing their lives. Speaking out against the tenets of Islam is apostasy, and the penalty is not just ostracism.

Old Soldier,
Have you checked that video link which I left for Anonymous? If you haven't watched it, you should. Scroll up to find the link here in the comments section. The video shows a connection between Islam and the swastika--literally.

 
At 7/24/2006 6:10 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Old Soldier,
Islam is comprised of the house of submission and the house of war. The house of submission (whom we would like to think of as moderate) are submissive to Allah who mandates the highest rewards in paradise being given to the martyrs who die killing Infidels.

In fact, according to the tenets of Islam, being a martyr while killing infidels is the ONLY SURE WAY to eternal life.

 
At 7/24/2006 6:12 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

G,
Syria and Iran support rogue groups....

Yes, they support those groups which yearn for Dar al-Islam.

 
At 7/24/2006 6:14 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Anonymous,
I'm sorry, but, I just can't even pull out my Crocodile Tears Eyedrops for people who allow the IslamoNazis to attack our troops from their houses. Sometimes the wages for stupidity IS DEATH.

I agree.

 
At 7/24/2006 6:17 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Anonymous,
Have you seen who was rescued from Beirut?

 
At 7/24/2006 6:43 PM, Blogger MissingLink said...

When we atack Nazism we do not attack all Germans when we attack Islam we do not attack all people who were born as Muslims.
On both counts it is the ideology that creates problems.
On the other hand did you hear about moderate Nazis?
I am sure they are there it's just we need to flash them out & start negotiating.

 
At 7/24/2006 6:49 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Missing Link,
I am sure they are there it's just we need to flash them out & start negotiating.

How to do that?

 
At 7/24/2006 7:14 PM, Blogger nanc said...

looks like somebody who shall remain anonymous has been pluckenzeeduckenzee! must've worn the little guy out...er plucky...anon seems to have boundless energy!

 
At 7/24/2006 7:26 PM, Anonymous religion of pieces said...

"While in Islam the only sure way to enter Paradise is through the highest jihad--that is, killing infidels--supporting jihad also has special status."

That is a profoundly worrying statement. It means that there must be tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of Muslims in the West who have an overriding imperative to kill one or more of their fellow citizens (though they wouldn't think of it in those terms - we are all filthy Kafirs) in order to have sex with those 72 virgins and 24 pretty pre-pubescent boys.

 
At 7/24/2006 7:36 PM, Blogger MissingLink said...

AOW,
How to do that?
Have you seen this silly movie 'Mars attacks'?
It pretty bad but somewhat topical.

And ...don't worry how. Just get them to the negotiating table and start negotiating.
And please do not ask what to negotiate.
They are only interested in our surrender.

 
At 7/24/2006 7:37 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Missing Link,
Mars Attacks? Is that a film with Jack Nicholson?

I don't believe that I've seen the entire movie, but it runs on cable from time to time.

 
At 7/24/2006 7:39 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

ROP,
"While in Islam the only sure way to enter Paradise is through the highest jihad--that is, killing infidels--supporting jihad also has special status."

That is a profoundly worrying statement.


Yes, I know. But more than one Muslim apostate has mentioned it.

And it does help to explain the silence of many Muslims, IMO.

 
At 7/24/2006 7:58 PM, Blogger Raven said...

I find it very discouraging to know our government KNOWS this stuff too and chooses to turn a very pointedly blind eye on it.
There is something not right about that...they are supposed to guard us, protect us. I'm beginning to see less and less of this. It's scary.

Excellent post AOW....very eye opening.

 
At 7/24/2006 8:18 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

From David Horowitz's July 24, 2006 article:

...Critics of Israel’s defensive war against Islamic terrorists are busily wringing their hands over the destruction that has been wreaked on Lebanon, which is portrayed as innocent. They invoke these tragedies while calling on Israel to cease its fire and leave the Hezbollah aggressors intact. Since Israel had no role in starting this war, this is like blaming the Allies for the damage inflicted on Germany in World War II – and doing so in the midst of the war. Critics who make such charges and demands in the midst of a war are aiding and abetting the aggressors.

But the very idea that Lebanon is an innocent bystander in the war against Israel won’t wash. Lebanon is host to the terrorist aggressor which has sworn to eliminate Israel and its Jews from the face of the earth. This is the explicit creed of both Hezbollah and its sponsor Iran. And not just in their charter or in statements made months or years ago. Iran’s little dictator reiterated the threat even yesterday in the midst of Islam’s aggressive war against the Jews: “Israel has pushed the button of its own destruction. The Zionists made their worst decision and triggered their extinction by attacking Lebanon." Hezbollah is part of the Lebanese government, occupying two cabinet positions and seats in its parliament. The Lebanese government agreed to enforce UN Resolution 1559 which calls on it to disarm all militias on its territory, namely Hezbollah. If the Lebanese Government had performed this obligation, there would be no war, and there would be no Lebanese civilian casualties.

Instead the Lebanese government allowed Hezbollah to build its headquarters and underground bunkers in the populated neighborhoods of Beirut. It allowed Hezbollah to import 13,000 missiles to be fired into Israel’s cities and towns. The 75,000-man Lebanese army has not sealed off the Syrian border and, according to reports, has allowed Syria to re-supply Hezbollah in the midst of its aggression. The Lebanese government has allowed Hezbollah to build underground fortresses on its southern border in position to attack. It has allowed Hezbollah to launch rockets into the towns of northern Israel to terrorize and kill innocent civilians....

 
At 7/24/2006 8:19 PM, Blogger Old Soldier said...

AOW, yes, I've watched the presentation on the link you sent. I'd like to see Ducky's take on the tape. It ought to be a doozie.

 
At 7/24/2006 8:21 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Oh, this is just choice (snerk):

Arab-American Group Sues U.S. For Slow Lebanon Evacuation

Monday, July 24, 2006


WASHINGTON — A leading Arab-American advocacy group has sued the U.S. government, claiming that it failed to protect American citizens from the fighting in Lebanon.

The lawsuit, filed Monday on behalf of about 30 American citizens by the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, alleges that Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld did not take all possible steps to secure the safety and well being of U.S. citizens when fighting erupted between Israel and Hezbollah guerillas....

 
At 7/24/2006 8:23 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Old Soldier,
Over at Democracy Frontline, I've seen material on the Hitler/Islam connection. But that video! It's so powerful!

 
At 7/24/2006 8:24 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Raven,
I find it very discouraging to know our government KNOWS this stuff too and chooses to turn a very pointedly blind eye on it.

If you haven't read Paul Sperry's Infiltration, try to make time to do so. Also, FPM has several Sperry articles in archives.

 
At 7/24/2006 8:39 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

ATTENTION, ANONYMOUS!
Check THIS out!

 
At 7/24/2006 9:34 PM, Blogger Jason_Pappas said...

Great fact-filled review (with help of Mr. B.)

 
At 7/24/2006 9:38 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Anonymous,
Never mind. I posted it. Next article up.

 
At 7/24/2006 9:40 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Jason,
Mr. Beamish is wonderful at providing blog fuel. I was contemplating posting on the topic of the internal threat from Hezbollah. And voila! Mr. Beamish sent me the link.

 
At 7/24/2006 9:41 PM, Blogger Jason_Pappas said...

Also, what is your background in islamic scholarship.

I guess if I say that Christians believe that Jesus died on the cross, you’d ask me for my background in Christian scholarship. And that Marxists believe the workers are exploited under Capitalism, you’d ask for my PhD in Marxist economics. And if I say don’t let go of those eggs they’ll fall and break, you’d ask for my knowledge of Newton’s theory of gravity.

Sometimes there are things about Islam everyone should know by now.

"you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows ..."

 
At 7/24/2006 9:46 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Jason,
Great response to that little challenge which Duck is so fond of tossing out.

 
At 7/24/2006 10:02 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unfortunately the MR Sucky Ducky and the MR John Brown Stain simply will not accept a conclusion from overwhelming, incontrovertible evidence. Unless it is congruent with their belief systems it simply can't exist!!!

It's fun to smack them around anyway!! Others come by and read and hopefully will pick up useful information.

 
At 7/24/2006 10:09 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Anonymous,
This blog has many commentless readers, some of whom I personally know and some I don't.

You certainly get your points across. LOL.

 
At 7/24/2006 10:22 PM, Blogger nanc said...

i certainly hope there's somebody close to revive plucky after this.

 
At 7/24/2006 10:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

AOW:

Thanks, hadn't seen the news that he had made it out. At last report the Whack Job Imam from Britain was still being denied access to rescue transportation!!

 
At 7/24/2006 10:38 PM, Blogger Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Ducky, like all leftists that have ever walked the earth and all that ever will, are far too dedicated to uniting the world in the belief that all leftists are morons to follow up on any informative sourcing you might provide them to annihilate any excuse for their stupidity that might otherwise pass. Leftism is ideologized stupidity.

 
At 7/24/2006 10:53 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

AOW:

The Hitler connection needs much more disemmination. The fact that Palis name themselves and their kids after Hitler and other famous Jew Murdering Nazis should be FRONT PAGE NEWS!!

I always try to get people to look into the life and times of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin Al Huseini. He ties nicely into the Balkan problems also.

There are many other connections that should be aired and I for one haven't researched any of them yet.

The recent letter from Ahmadinejad to the German Chancellor should make people wonder about those PAST connections. In it the nutcase implied that Germany and Iran had common ground on the Jew problem!!!!!

The German gubmint is very carefully distancing itself from this insanity!!!!

http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=134509

 
At 7/25/2006 1:04 AM, Blogger ConflagrAsian said...

It is obvious that this is a non-progressive blog run by Bush-chimp minions. A bunch of paranoid Bushists.

 
At 7/25/2006 6:05 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

From the header at ConflagrAsian's blog:

Flag Of Liberation

"In the Advocation & Espousal of a Forever Indomitable Juche, Formidable Songun, & an Impregnable DPRK & Islamic Republic Of Iran, as well as of the annulment of the Zionist Regime AKA Medinat Yisra'el & the return of all Zionist-occupied land to Palestinian Moslems & autochthonous Jews."

 
At 7/25/2006 6:15 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Anonymous,
The Hitler connection needs much more disemmination.

That gives me an idea for some future postings. Depending on what the orthopedist says today, I may be able to find time to put up some information on that topic in the near future.

When I watched the movie Islam: What the West Needs to Know, one of the women in the audience gasped, "Just like Hitler!" when two pieces of footage were shown: an imam preaching at a mosque in Baghdad and an imam leading a protest-the-Danish-cartoons gathering in London.

 
At 7/25/2006 6:46 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Anonymous,
The Koran and Mein Kampf, which I recently posted at Democracy Frontline. I glommed onto the information at Infidel Bloggers Alliance a while back.

 
At 7/25/2006 7:06 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

SE Asian Muslims Say They Will Join Hizballah's Fight:

July 24, 2006

(CNSNews.com) - Muslims in Southeast Asia are protesting Israel's offensive against Hizballah, and in Indonesia, Islamists reportedly were registering as "volunteers" to travel to the region to fight against the Jewish state.

The foreign ministry in Jakarta said it knew of no Indonesians who had yet left the country headed for the Middle East, although spokesman Desra Percaya said it was aware that some were prepared to do so....

 
At 7/25/2006 8:31 AM, Anonymous Don said...

I hope the SE Asian terrorists do flock to Lebanon. If you are going to shoot fish in a barrel, you might as well have all the fish in the same barrel. I wonder how the foul fowl would sound if his immediate family was attacked by the terrorists?

 
At 7/25/2006 9:34 AM, Blogger kev said...

Why does anyone need a background in islamic scholarship? If daffy's trying to imply that he has such a background, look what it's done to him. Perhaps what we really need is a background in appeasement scholarship. Then we can be and do whatever any other country or culture wants of us, and then everyone will like us. I heard on some news channel this morning that the UN is accusing Israel of human rights violations. Just think about that for a minute. The UN! That would be kinda like daffy trying to teach a class on American patriotism.

 
At 7/25/2006 10:42 AM, Blogger Pim's Ghost said...

Can I read the comments on AOW withOUT being bothered by Duckhead? Does Ducky post ANYWHERE ELSE?

"You parrot a lot of cliches that everyone has heard 1000 times but is there any substance to your beliefs?"--Ducky finally sums himself up perfectly while trying to insult someone else.

MY CHALLENGE TO DUCKY: START YOUR OWN BLOG!!! HELP ME OUT FOLKS, ENCOURAGE THE DUCK TO QUACK ON HIS OWN SITE!!

OK, back to the OP. Copies of the ISNA's (Islamic Society of N. America) publication "Islamic Horizons" used to be rather scary, yet sometimes also quite humorous. By "used to", I mean prior to 9/11. I used to pick up old copies free in a Pakistani grocery in Indianapolis when I lived there (the ISNA is located in an out of the way suburb of the city). But the ads for many NOW-outlawed and known "charities" and orgs with terrorist ties were on almost every page.

Even more numerous than the one or two pages devoted to ads for Muslim brides and the various articles about how horrid and degraded US society is. These were a great resource to me. Anyone who gets a chance (apparently outside of that one grocer, you must pay for this drivel) to get some copies for free or articles online, do take the time to read them. And if pre-9/11, note all of the overt support for terrorist groups worldwide.

 
At 7/25/2006 12:38 PM, Blogger eyesallaround said...

Great Post AOW! I've known some American Lebanese Shiites, and they all ADORE Hezbollah. They are all disgusting pigs and leeches. The 25,000 that were "rescued" from Lebanon should have been dropped into the ocean.

 
At 7/25/2006 1:31 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unfortunately the SE Asian pigs of Allah will probably contribute mostly money, and, for that feel good feeling, decapitate and or rape a few more christian schoolgirls locally with another one or two bombings of churches and public gathering places to show their solidarity.

As we have seen in Afghanistan and Iraq this filth is long on rhetoric and short on numbers. If they had shown up in larger numbers there, MR John Brown Stain would have already retired on the income from supplying Al Qaeda and associates with head coffins!!

I have some hope that they are starting to run into a good ole US saying:

You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but, you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

What makes it better, of even those you can fool, they all still won't jump up to be a suicide bomber, or equivalent, fight against the IDF or US Military.

 
At 7/26/2006 7:00 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Kev,
Duck has never shared with us exactly which books on Islam he has read nor the names of any courses he has taken. Maybe he'll see this comment and provided us the list, assuming there is one.

Eyes,
Hordes of hijab-wearing women, rescuees from Lebanon, have flooded into BWI and Dulles, our two local, international airports. We've been seeing the stories on the local news here. But not a single program has pointed out that most of these rescuees have dual citizenship. I keep asking myself, "How many of these rescuees voted in Hezbollah to the Lebanese Parliament?"

 
At 7/26/2006 9:00 AM, Anonymous GM Roper said...

Ducky writes: "Are there any moderate muslims in Turkey, China, Indonesia, India? All "bad"?

Do you wear the swastika to bed?"

Wow, the obtuseness is sooooo evident. Yes, they are all bad if they are not standing up in common cause against the terrorists in their midst. Why aren't they speaking out... What happened to their humanity, where is their courage? Where is their ability to "Speak Truth to Power" (which BTW only counts if you actually have something to lose). as to your last sentence... you loose.. Godwin's law and the obvious "he who invokes nazi's first, looses the argument."

Ahh, Ducky, you are such a wanker.

 
At 7/26/2006 9:12 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

GM,
There is overt support, and there is tacit support. Civilians who harbor terrorists are targets, IMO--consequences, so to speak.

 
At 7/27/2006 4:34 AM, Anonymous Seth said...

It's no different than that "martyred" American twit who thought it was worth getting in front of a very big bulldozer to demonstrate her solidarity with Palestinian terrorists. And she didn't even qualify to join anyone's "Stable of 72", or whatever the hell they award dead female jihadis.

Old Soldier's got it pretty well sewn up:

If you support and/or abet terrorism, it's your responsibility to deal with the consequences.

If you are part of a community that sits mute while its own members not only commit acts of terrorism but purport to represent the entire community in so doing, then you are equally as culpable when the time comes to face whatever backlash the terrorists bring on your community.

If you've elected a friggin' terrorist organization to lead your government or even hold government posts, forget it, you haven't got a leg to stand on in any sane argument, nor can you expect any sympathy from me when a bomb descends on your house.

 
At 7/27/2006 8:05 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Seth,
This bears repeating:

If you support and/or abet terrorism, it's your responsibility to deal with the consequences.

If you are part of a community that sits mute while its own members not only commit acts of terrorism but purport to represent the entire community in so doing, then you are equally as culpable when the time comes to face whatever backlash the terrorists bring on your community.

If you've elected a friggin' terrorist organization to lead your government or even hold government posts, forget it, you haven't got a leg to stand on in any sane argument, nor can you expect any sympathy from me when a bomb descends on your house.


I think of it this way....If my neighbor has gang members living in her house and those gang members are shooting holes in my car, and if that neighbor will not make any attempt to evict the gang members, then she is liable. Why do I draw this analogy? Because a few years ago my neighbor's son got involved in some kind of gang; but she didn't just sit there ant let his friends continue to shoot holes in my car. No! She shipped her son out of state to a boarding school and got police protection for herself.

Hezbollah and Hamas amount to terrorist gangs. They will not rein themselves in.

 
At 7/27/2006 11:16 PM, Anonymous Seth said...

If we stay out of this and let Israel do what needs to be done, there will be much reining in, LOL.

A headline I'd much love to see at the end of this "conflict" is:

Damascus And Teheran: On weeping and gnashing of teeth.

 
At 7/28/2006 5:48 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Seth,
The msm propaganda war is on. Yesterday, on various news shows, talking heads stated, "Israel can't win this war."

Yesterday's WaPo lead editorial, however, contained the following sentence: "The truth is that there is no reasonable conpromise to be made with the extremists who began this war." "They" denoted Hezbollah.

I like your headline!

 

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