Friday, October 27, 2006

CAIR And Election Campaigns

In my previous posting (Please scroll down), I questioned whether or not CAIR has violated its tax-emempt status by the organization's support of candidate Keith Ellison.

Now comes this October 27, 2006 article in FrontPageMagazine. Excerpt:

"...[F]or officials of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) – the most visible group claiming to represent Muslims in America – their political loyalties appear to lean in one particular political direction. An extensive review of political contributions by CAIR officials, employees and board members on the local, state and national level reveals that CAIR is betting almost exclusively on Democrats to represent them politically on Capitol Hill during the upcoming 110th Congress....

"[A]t present CAIR officials are content to liberally spread their campaign contributions to Democrats, apparently on the gamble that they will take one, if not both, chambers of Congress....With Democrats in control, CAIR is betting that they will be better represented on Capitol Hill in their self-proclaimed goal of eventual Islamic domination for America. Maybe that is something that citizens should keep in mind on November 7th as they go to the polls and vote."

Among the states mentioned in the article are Ohio, California, Minnesota, Georgia, Virginia, and Florida. Read the entire article here.

47 Comments:

At 10/27/2006 8:19 AM, Anonymous Seth said...

Which just goes to show that our country's worst and most malevolent enemy of all time knows which side their bread is buttered on, and this, in turn, makes a very big statement about a certain segment of our society that dare call themselves "Americans".

 
At 10/27/2006 8:41 AM, Blogger Raven said...

When are our leaders going to do something about CAIR? Tt's beyond any doubt now what they stand for. If we can figure out these people.

 
At 10/27/2006 8:56 AM, Blogger The Merry Widow said...

What makes you think that the intestinal fortitude exists in our current political "leadership"? They have lost their moral compass, so they cannot call anything evil, no matter how much they "smell like smoke and sulfur"!
"They" (CAIR) are "just a political opinion" not traitors!
Woe is us!
Good morning, G*D bless and Maranatha!

tmw

 
At 10/27/2006 10:35 AM, Blogger nanc said...

and to think, there are some very worthy organizations out there who may be having trouble gaining non-tax charitable status~!

perhaps we should go militant?

 
At 10/27/2006 10:39 AM, Blogger The Merry Widow said...

It may come to that!

tmw

 
At 10/27/2006 10:54 AM, Blogger nanc said...

i'm glad they made this top article today at frontpage - that article ALWAYS generates the most interest for some strange reason. people get three days to pick it and others apart.

although some of the best articles are on page two - so it goes...

 
At 10/27/2006 10:55 AM, Blogger nanc said...

tmw - it's a good thing our side is the side with arms! :]

 
At 10/27/2006 11:19 AM, Blogger Farmer John said...

...and long legs! :P

 
At 10/27/2006 11:30 AM, Blogger nanc said...

the better to run with!

 
At 10/27/2006 12:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am uncomfortable with foriegn money going into a US Charity and then into campaign donations. This sounds illegal but I am not an attorney.

 
At 10/27/2006 12:29 PM, Blogger Farmer John said...

Running is good. That reminds me of a story Plato once related in his "Laches" (On Courage) dialogue (...and I don't think it was one that Hermes told Argus!)

SOCRATES: Then, Laches, suppose that we first set about determining the nature of courage, and in the second place proceed to enquire how the young men may attain this quality by the help of studies and pursuits. Tell me, if you can, what is courage.

LACHES: Indeed, Socrates, I see no difficulty in answering; he is a man of courage who does not run away, but remains at his post and fights against the enemy; there can be no mistake about that.

SOCRATES: Very good, Laches; and yet I fear that I did not express myself clearly; and therefore you have answered not the question which I intended to ask, but another.

LACHES: What do you mean, Socrates?

SOCRATES: I will endeavour to explain; you would call a man courageous who remains at his post, and fights with the enemy?

LACHES: Certainly I should.

SOCRATES: And so should I; but what would you say of another man, who fights flying, instead of remaining?

LACHES: How flying?

SOCRATES: Why, as the Scythians are said to fight, flying as well as pursuing; and as Homer says in praise of the horses of Aeneas, that they knew 'how to pursue, and fly quickly hither and thither'; and he passes an encomium on Aeneas himself, as having a knowledge of fear or flight, and calls him 'an author of fear or flight.'

LACHES: Yes, Socrates, and there Homer is right: for he was speaking of chariots, as you were speaking of the Scythian cavalry, who have that way of fighting; but the heavy-armed Greek fights, as I say, remaining in his rank.

SOCRATES: And yet, Laches, you must except the Lacedaemonians at Plataea, who, when they came upon the light shields of the Persians, are said not to have been willing to stand and fight, and to have fled; but when the ranks of the Persians were broken, they turned upon them like cavalry, and won the battle of Plataea.

LACHES: That is true.

SOCRATES: That was my meaning when I said that I was to blame in having put my question badly, and that this was the reason of your answering badly. For I meant to ask you not only about the courage of heavy-armed soldiers, but about the courage of cavalry and every other style of soldier; and not only who are courageous in war, but who are courageous in perils by sea, and who in disease, or in poverty, or again in politics, are courageous; and not only who are courageous against pain or fear, but mighty to contend against desires and pleasures, either fixed in their rank or turning upon their enemy. There is this sort of courage--is there not, Laches?

LACHES: Certainly, Socrates.

SOCRATES: And all these are courageous, but some have courage in pleasures, and some in pains: some in desires, and some in fears, and some are cowards under the same conditions, as I should imagine.

LACHES: Very true.


I know, I know... you've heard it before. Somethings bear repeating, though.

 
At 10/27/2006 12:37 PM, Blogger Farmer John said...

...when the gov share of gdp hits 20% (or 50%+ in Europe) it becomes just about impossible to keep $ out of politics.

 
At 10/27/2006 12:42 PM, Blogger Farmer John said...

...and lawyer/politicans all know how to carve the right type of loop hole to suit their shape of a gun.

 
At 10/27/2006 2:05 PM, Blogger Old Soldier said...

I wonder how it would be received if the Southern Baptist Convention started funneling money to candidates? I wonder how long it would take before the IRS was investigating the tax exempt status?

 
At 10/27/2006 2:18 PM, Blogger Farmer John said...

They love to pull the church & state card, don't they o.s.!

Meanwhile, back at the altar of Big Government, the secularist plot their next move.

 
At 10/27/2006 3:19 PM, Blogger The Merry Widow said...

You got it, FJ! That's why I left the gop, I felt that they had betrayed everything the party used to stand for! To the elitists, we are unwashed, unthinking masses who should know enough to leave them to do whats best for "us"! Unfortunately, the "us" isn't the rank and file American that pays their taxes, works hard, serves in the military. we are so stupid, in their eyes, that we don't deserve better than the scraps from the table. and if we're not grateful for those "scraps"...

tmw

 
At 10/27/2006 3:41 PM, Blogger nanc said...

do i smell a coup?

 
At 10/27/2006 4:08 PM, Blogger Farmer John said...

only if you ride in a deville...

 
At 10/27/2006 4:14 PM, Blogger Farmer John said...

Better to take careful aim and keep count.

 
At 10/27/2006 4:19 PM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

Hmmm, I just took a quick look at the article. Since its posted at Frontpage you can hedge your bets and assume it's pretty much crap.

Sure enough....
"CAIR-California President Rashid Ahmad is another CAIR state chapter leader also betting on the Democrats this election cycle, giving $500 to Rep. Doris Matsui (CA-5), in her reelection bid – his only campaign contribution documented thus far."

The author appears to be a moron who isn't aware that private donations despite belonging to an organization are legit.

More pure cheese. Damn you people are paranoid.

 
At 10/27/2006 4:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I do not know if CAIR has seperated its foreign and domestic donors. However, the Duck is used to plebescites in his workers paradise.

 
At 10/27/2006 4:45 PM, Blogger WomanHonorThyself said...

"their self-proclaimed goal of eventual Islamic domination for America"..anyone that denies this is in for a rude wake up call AOW!

 
At 10/27/2006 5:04 PM, Blogger Mike's America said...

Thanks for emailing this to me. I put it in my top post along with the news from Northern Virginistan.

I wonder how the Sharia types feel about supporting a Senate candidate in Virginia who writes child pornography.

 
At 10/27/2006 8:31 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Beak,
You've made an important point!

I do not know if CAIR has seperated its foreign and domestic donors.

I find it interesting that CAIR backed off on the law suit against Andrew Whitehead of Anti-CAIR when the proceedings came down to investigating CAIR's finances. That mention you made of foreign and domestic donors may well be CAIR's soft underbelly.

 
At 10/27/2006 8:59 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Mike's America,
This latest about Jim Webb has stirred up quite a storm here in Northern Virginia.

 
At 10/27/2006 9:31 PM, Anonymous Exile From Hillary's Village said...

Ducky (no surprise) has no idea of what he speaks.

It's no surprise that he hates David Horowitz, after all, Mr. Horowitz is a Communist turned Conservative, and there's nothing more unforgivable to a Leftist.

Take it from someone who lives in Minnesota: Ellison is trying to lie his way out of his association with the Nation of Islam, which believes that white people were genetically engineered by a mad scientist.

Keith Ellison is basically saying that he "accidentally" stood up for the Nation of Islam for only 18 months until he realized that they supported cop-killers in Minneapolis.

The fact is, he was involved with the Nation of Islam for years!

But, to Lefties like Duckwad, who cares about the dacts?

 
At 10/27/2006 9:35 PM, Blogger nanc said...

plucky - if you have half a mind and it doesn't belong to you - give it back!

 
At 10/27/2006 10:11 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Exile,
Hello! Long time. Good to see you out and about.

Thank you for adding those insights about Ellison. You're in Minnesota, so you have a closer view as to what's been going on:

Keith Ellison is basically saying that he "accidentally" stood up for the Nation of Islam for only 18 months until he realized that they supported cop-killers in Minneapolis.

The fact is, he was involved with the Nation of Islam for years!

 
At 10/27/2006 10:12 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

I've noticed that leftists harbor a lot of ill-will toward David Horowitz. No wonder! He's "been there, done that."

 
At 10/27/2006 11:31 PM, Blogger Steve Harkonnen said...

"The author appears to be a moron who isn't aware that private donations despite belonging to an organization are legit."

It's called a loophole, but it leads to further suspicion that CAIR may be in violation of their tax-exempt status.

 
At 10/28/2006 6:13 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Duck,
Damn you people are paranoid.

Not really. Just asking a few questions--questions which have been consistently rebuffed by CAIR. Once members of CAIR entered the blogosphere and refused to answer a few questions, interest was piqued. The situation keeps getting curioser and curioser.

Old Soldier made an excellent point:

I wonder how it would be received if the Southern Baptist Convention started funneling money to candidates? I wonder how long it would take before the IRS was investigating the tax exempt status?

Beak has also made an excellent point:

I am uncomfortable with foriegn money going into a US Charity and then into campaign donations.

I once read that CAIR contributed to CAIR's Library Project. I don't know if that's true, but I'd like to know about that. And if foreign money is invested in election campaigns, there is further cause for concern.

 
At 10/28/2006 6:22 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Farmer John,
only if you ride in a deville...

Great car!

Nanc,
i'm glad they made this top article today at frontpage - that article ALWAYS generates the most interest...

Interest can lead to scrutiny and investigation.

TMW,
I'm not thrilled with the GOP. But I'd like even less the Dems being in charge.

Raven,
When are our leaders going to do something about CAIR? Tt's beyond any doubt now what they stand for.

CAIR's lobbying power?

Seth,
our country's worst and most malevolent enemy of all time knows which side their bread is buttered on...

As Tony Blair once said, "They will use our freedoms against us."

Farmer,
Meanwhile, back at the altar of Big Government, the secularist plot their next move.

Doesn't it sometimes defy logic that secularists should so love big government? Or is the problem "secular Utopians"?

 
At 10/28/2006 6:25 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

TMW,
What makes you think that the intestinal fortitude exists in our current political "leadership"? They have lost their moral compass, so they cannot call anything evil, no matter how much they "smell like smoke and sulfur"!

For several decades, the use of the word "evil" has been mocked by certain members of our society. I believe that same mocking happened in the 1930s, when appeasement of Hitler was the chosen path. We all know how that turned out!

 
At 10/28/2006 6:26 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Steve,
It's called a loophole, but it leads to further suspicion that CAIR may be in violation of their tax-exempt status.

The left decries capitalists' use of loopholes. So why not now will the left decry the loopholes being used by CAIR?

 
At 10/28/2006 6:28 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

WHT,
"their self-proclaimed goal of eventual Islamic domination for America"..anyone that denies this is in for a rude wake up call

At what point will those someones receive the wake-up call? I believe that some people are incapable of waking up. They'd rather be ostriches--or traitors.

 
At 10/28/2006 12:25 PM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

My this is an informative board ,,, Keith Ellison, by extension I assume, believes that white people were genetically engineered by mad scientists and he's running ahead in the Minnesota race.

That's pretty silly. Besides, Garrison Keillor would have told me.

Orthodox muslims do not consider The Nation of Islam true muslims. Just thought I'd mention that.

Then we have AOW getting all upset that a private citizen is making contributions to a legitimate candidate she doesn't approve of. Well, no-one said this board is the place to look for democracy.

Then we have Old Soldier intimating that Southern Baptists either aren't making political contributions or are only making contributions to candidates who are in the best interest of the nation, like Rick Santorum.

You folks just seem to go out of your may to avoid a complex point of view.

 
At 10/28/2006 3:44 PM, Blogger Gayle said...

I got here so late that this entire subject is covered entirely, so I will just ask you a question, AOW: Do you have any more of that masking tape for Ducky?

 
At 10/28/2006 4:02 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Duck,
Garrison Keillor would have told me.

Funny that you should mention Keillor. I finally got to rent the DVD A Prairie Home Companion. I plan to write a short review of the film. FYI, I enjoyed the film, especially the music.

My this is an informative board...

You have your take, others have theirs, and I have mine.

 
At 10/28/2006 4:03 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Gayle,
AOW: Do you have any more of that masking tape for Ducky?

Duct tape is even better! :)

 
At 10/28/2006 6:03 PM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

Sorry about the thread hijack but this is too much. Relevant on an election thread maybe. Better get in gear.

From the Miami Herald
-----------------------------------
In the debate about the reliability of electronic voting technology, the South Florida parent company of one of the nation's leading suppliers of touch-screen voting machines is drawing special scrutiny from the U.S. government.

Federal officials are investigating whether Smartmatic, owner of Oakland, Calif.-based Sequoia Voting Systems, is secretly controlled by Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez, according to two people familiar with the probe.
...

Concerns about Smartmatic are keen on the eve of the Nov. 7 election, given fears that someone with unauthorized access to the electronic system could create electoral chaos. Some critics believe that if the Venezuelan government is involved, Smartmatic could be a ''Trojan horse'' designed to advance Chavez's anti-American agenda.

 
At 10/29/2006 8:12 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Duck,
No need to apologize!

Federal officials are investigating whether Smartmatic, owner of Oakland, Calif.-based Sequoia Voting Systems, is secretly controlled by Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez, according to two people familiar with the probe.

Yesterday or the day before, I read in the WaPo that some kind of foul-up with voting machines was known before the machines were scheduled to be implemented. I don't recall the name of the company involved.

 
At 10/29/2006 9:49 PM, Blogger kuhnkat said...

If you take a look at Chavez's last election tallies you would have even more interest in who provides and maintains voting machines!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Of course, Jimmah "the peanut brain" Cahtuh said it was OK so Ducky believes him!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 
At 10/30/2006 9:18 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Kuhnkat,
Does anybody still believe Carter?

Jimmah needs to stick to building homes with Habitat.

 
At 10/31/2006 4:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a bunch of superficial labelers I find on this wall, no doubt it doesn't come surprising in a modern, diverse society - Americans always seem to be quick to judge on unrelated, external factors, before fully considering implications of policy, debate and process, not to mention the authenticity of CAIR's vision and mission statements, they would rather joke, mock others, listen to each other's egotistical opinions, so congratulations on continuing the American tradition of subtle exclusivism in the name of democracy

 
At 11/01/2006 12:06 AM, Blogger kuhnkat said...

anonymous,

apparently you are too STUPID to include the FACTS that the fellow who established CAIR, and others associated with CAIR, have been PROVEN to be financial supporters, organizers, and recruiters for several ISLAMIC TERRORIST ORGANISATIONS.

Thanks for admitting you are ignorant for the whole world to see. Maybe that is why you are posting anonymously??

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 
At 11/01/2006 8:22 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Kuhnkat,
Maybe Anonymous isn't ignorant. It could be that Anonymous knows full well about the history of CAIR. Furthermore, I fail to see the "exclusivism" is an excuse for not investigating any organization's finances.

 
At 11/01/2006 3:50 PM, Blogger First The Ear said...

Gee, Anonymous sounds suspiciously like Ahmed Bedier. This is getting really weird.

 

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