Saturday, July 29, 2006

"This Far, And No Further"

Just when I think I know what my next blog article is going to be, along comes something irresistible at another blogger's site. This time, my find comes from Benning's Writing Pad. Below is a lengthy excerpt and is worth your time:
"Recently we have heard cries calling on Israel to respond to the Hezbollah terrorist attacks with 'proportionate response'. As in 'tit-for-tat', we must suppose. Hezbollah fights from hideouts within civilian neighborhoods, from within hospitals and mosques. They are shielded, usually knowingly, by the very civilians who we are told are innocent victims of Israeli aggression. And while the terrorist of Islam fire their rockets and missiles purposely into civilian targets in Israel, cower behind women and children in attacks against Israeli forces, the World would have us hold back Israel. We are called upon to safeguard the terrorists and denounce the people who have been attacked, again and again, by fanatics.

"The World continues to plead with our nation to convince Israel to seek a 'path for peace', as if that has not been tried again and again. We are told by former Federal government officials that we are the only super power in the region and that we hold sway with both sides, thus being the only ones who can stop the war there. Americans, told of the danger of Lebanon for years, and despite US State Department warnings against traveling to, or staying in, Lebanon, went there. And now endangered, they demand that the US government not only rescue them from the situation there, but stop it.

"Stop Israel. Keep them from killing innocent Lebanese civilians. And the Western Media proclaim the horrors of Israeli attacks on the Lebanese people and trumpet the sorrow, bloodshed, and horror of what is happening in Lebanon. And on occasion they also show us images of the victims of Hezbollah in Israel.

"But the World Media remain quiet about the Israeli soldiers kidnapped from Israel by Hezbollah in the north, and by Hamas in the south. Two Islamic terror organizations, shielded by their civilian neighbors in Lebanon, and elected to office in Gaza, commit acts of war, and then call upon the West to restrain the victims from seeking justice. And retribution.

"History in the region of the Middle East tells us quite clearly that for each step toward peace, made by Israel, they have been made to pay a steep price in blood. Every move Israel has made to promote peace in the region has resulted in increased violence from the Islamists. Each time Israel has conceded land to the Islamists they have been attacked for their weakness - for that is how the Islamists see Israel's concessions - and made to pay more for Peace than for War. And still the World calls on them to give up. To step back further, to concede again.

"Far too many in the West cannot, or will not, see the Evil that is Islam. They prattle on about its proud history: of exploration, of art, of medicine, of learning. All nonsense. And what they will not allow themselves to see now is the utter depravity of Islam and its interations with the Civilized World around it. This Cult of Death is granted concessions by the West that are suicidal in nature. Concessions that nobody would ever accept were the circumstances local rather than global.

"Imagine that your neighbors began lobbing M-80s into your yard, onto your patio, through your windows. Would your response be to grant them part of your yard? If they crawled under your fence and kidnapped your child, would you offer to sit down and discuss the matter with them? Or would you call the police? Would you expect the Authorities to punish the missile lobbers, retrieve your child, and punish the kidnappers? If so, then you are not considered nuanced enough to be discussing the Middle East 'situation'.

"And that 'situation' is but a tiny, though massively dangerous part of what is happening in the OWrld, whether we want to face it or not. For Islam is on the move. As it has since its violent, bloody inception, Islam is expanding, demanding converts or surrender, moving in and demanding that each place give in to its demands. Western Europe, which fought for its own survival centuries ago agaisnt this same Death Cult, finds itself once again endangered by Islam. This time it is different, though.

"Europeans, in their Liberal, compassionate way, allowed Islam to enter. Acts of mercy, giving home and sustenance to refugees from other Muslim lands, has resulted in a growing minority of demanding, violence-prone cultists who despise their adoptive homes and refuse to assimilate into the societies around them. They are attempting to take over those nations from within. First through legislative means, and political bullying (Hate Speech Laws anyone?), then through armed uprisings, violent criminal activities, and the cordoning off of entire areas within cities, where the actual native populace can no longer tread without fear for their lives and limbs.

"Europe may well fall this time, where they did not centuries ago. What will America do? Our own naysayers have emboldened the Islamist enemy. They have cost this nation precious blood through their tacit support of the Islamist Horde. Their incessant whining about the 'Rights' of the enemy attempt to weaken our resolve. We listen at our peril. Now is not the time to debate the finer points of diplomacy. Now is the time to gird up our loins, put on our armor, heft our swords and go fight the Forces of Darkness and Chaos. Because they are coming. Many are already here, working to weaken us from within. Using our Media, our Courts, our common decency as platforms from which to launch more attacks....

"It's time for us, the people of the United States of America, to stand up and say, 'This far, and no further!'"
I couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you, Benning!

[You can read Benning's full essay HERE]

79 Comments:

At 7/29/2006 8:37 PM, Blogger Raven said...

Excellent. Just excellent.

 
At 7/29/2006 8:42 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Raven,
I was about to write my own essay, but stumbled onto Benning's. He's expressed how I feel so well.

Benning's article was quite long, or I'd have copied and pasted the whole thing.

Now I can go back to that bit of research I was doing--tomorrow, after my aching body recovers from the concert I attended today. LOL.

 
At 7/29/2006 9:51 PM, Anonymous Seth said...

Great and on-point essay.

Islam is coming closer and closer to accomplishing what Hitler nearly did in Europe, only without the need for a uniformed military, by saturating the local populations with its presence and "testing the waters" with attacks like those in France and England, in the former the rioting and car burning, in the latter the transit bombings. When they really turn up the heat, the Euroboneheads are going to be hurting.

Here in the U.S., a mere 1% of our current Islamic population is around 90,000, and it would take a whole lot less than that to wreak bloody havoc in several cities at once. I don't believe the problems we're surely in for, however, will be restricted to "a mere 1%".

If a bunch of people don't wake up and smell the mocha very soon, there may not be much to choose between photos of mid 1980s Beirut and photos of early 21st Century Anytown, U.S.A.

 
At 7/29/2006 10:00 PM, Blogger WomanHonorThyself said...

"History in the region of the Middle East tells us quite clearly that for each step toward peace, made by Israel, they have been made to pay a steep price in blood. ..Soooooooooo TRUE!..:)

 
At 7/29/2006 11:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

We need to wake up and kick Wahabbist BUTT back to the middle of the Saudi desert and launch their big black rock into the middle of them with a NUKE attached!!!

That way they ALL get their 72 VIRGINS!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 
At 7/30/2006 2:16 AM, Blogger Truth-Pain said...

I meantioned something along this vein at Betmo's blog. I just discoved benning's blog. Love his stuff.

 
At 7/30/2006 8:25 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Truth-Pain,
I've never been to Betmo's blog. I visit Benning's blog as often as I can. He's an excellent writer!

 
At 7/30/2006 8:29 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Anonymous,
We need to wake up and kick Wahabbist BUTT back to the middle of the Saudi desert and launch their big black rock into the middle of them with a NUKE attached!!!

It may well come to that.

And that black rock? Puts me in mind of pagan religions, going back to ancient times. Myself--I can't imagine parading around and bowing to A ROCK!

 
At 7/30/2006 8:31 AM, Blogger benning said...

Don't forget the rioting as they throw rocks at a totem symbolizing Satan! How many die each time that happens?

Thanks, AOW, for the plug! And for ignoring the typos all over it! Yeesh!

What concert? Who was playing?

 
At 7/30/2006 8:33 AM, Anonymous Justin said...

Anonymous:

Strange I have been saying the same thing for some time. "Nuke them all and let their G*D sort them out.

AOW:

An excellent post. It is unfortunate that The President and the News Media "Fox included" continue to use the term "War on Terror" Terror is not an enemy. Terror is a word and one of its definitions is:

"Violence committed or threatened by a group to intimidate or coerce a population, as for military or political purposes."

The key words are "by a group". This enemy is not just a word it is a group,it is people that, are hell bent on not only doing away with the Jews but the Christian world as well.

Until Bush and the government step up to the plate and quit worrying about offending any muslims and calls it for what it is " A Islamic Facisist War on Freedom" no one is going to take the war seriously.

Americans need to be told the truth. This war is not just a word or boogey man creeping out of the closet. It is a war with a group of people and they have to be dealt with .

 
At 7/30/2006 8:38 AM, Anonymous Justin said...

One other foot note AOW if you dont mind.

I find it offensive that the Government and news media label fundimentalist Christian groups as wrong and paint all Christians as belonging to this sect.

However, they will not dare offend a few muslims by labeling the terrorist as fundimentalist facisists that they are.

 
At 7/30/2006 8:42 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Benning,
You are most welcome. I didn't play the role of grammar police. You got your points across and saved me the bother of writing something almost identical insofar as those points go.

What concert? Who was playing?

The Beach Boys, with only one original still on stage--Mike Love. The guest drummer was John Stamos.

I had an outstanding time, despite the heat and the heavy-duty workout. Plus, my ticket was free! A gift certificate from my piano students.

I had several hours away from thinking about world events--r&r.

 
At 7/30/2006 8:54 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Justin,
You are always welcome here!

For a long time, I've been ranting to my friends about "The War On Terror." Terror is a method (or a strategy), not something one can wage war against.

Until Bush and the government step up to the plate and quit worrying about offending any muslims and calls it for what it is " A Islamic Facisist War on Freedom" no one is going to take the war seriously.

I've been hearing more of the term "Islamofascist" of late, even from GWB. But not enough use of it!

I find it offensive that the Government and news media label fundimentalist Christian groups as wrong and paint all Christians as belonging to this sect.

However, they will not dare offend a few muslims by labeling the terrorist as fundimentalist facisists that they are.


And also this...Do fundamentalist Christians fly planes into buildings? Yes, I know that some who call themselves fundamentalists have bombed abortion clinics, disrupted funerals, harassed homosexuals, etc. BUT most fundamental Christians don't do such things and, in fact, condemn those types of acts.

Islamofascists, on the other hand, commit acts of terrorism and, if not committing those acts, fund them.

Here's what I want to see....Outright condemnation of Islamofascism and their front organizations--and any Muslims who don't come forward are "outta here."

 
At 7/30/2006 8:56 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Benning,
Don't forget the rioting as they throw rocks at a totem symbolizing Satan! How many die each time that happens?

And when all those people die, the response from the imam is "Nothing could have been done. It was the will of Allah." That's very nearly word-for-word, BTW.

 
At 7/30/2006 9:02 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Seth,
Islam is coming closer and closer to accomplishing what Hitler nearly did in Europe, only without the need for a uniformed military, by saturating the local populations with its presence and "testing the waters" with attacks like those in France and England,

Here in the U.S., a mere 1% of our current Islamic population is around 90,000, and it would take a whole lot less than that to wreak bloody havoc in several cities at once.


Isn't that one reason why the media and the administration don't want to take the risk of offending? Meanwhile, Islamification is proceeding.

Of course, one difference here in the States, particularly with regard to riots which have occurred in Europe--citizens are armed. Hmmmm.....

I've read the Eurabia will be a reality by the end of this century, if not by mid-century. The Muslim population there is already pushing for an Islamic constitution.

 
At 7/30/2006 11:10 AM, Blogger Brooke said...

I'm going with mid-century, AOW, unless Europe somehow gets their heads screwed on straight.

Us, by centuries end, if we don't straighten up as well. CAIR is already on record saying that they want America to be an Islamist state.

 
At 7/30/2006 12:03 PM, Anonymous Justin said...

Americans are much like boiling a frog.

If you drop a frog into a pot of boiling water his reflexes are fast enough he will jump out.

However, if you put the frog in a cold pot of water and turn on the heat and bring the water slowly to a boil he will be cooked before he knows it.

Daily we are served up a bigger portion of bilge. We are told daily.

1.Open borders are what we need these people only come here for work.

2.We must feel sorry for the poor Palestianians and Lebanese because of Israels unprovoked or massive response when attacked by both Hammas and Hezbollah.

Unless Americans wake up to what is going on here we are going to be on cooked frog.

Brooke

Isnt it funny that the CAIR statement is not widely published in the media. What the media doesnt realize is they will be the first these people take out.

 
At 7/30/2006 4:04 PM, Blogger Tom said...

Excellent post, excellent blog. You have been blogrolled on my blog.

 
At 7/30/2006 7:05 PM, Blogger MissingLink said...

Definetely a great post.

 
At 7/30/2006 7:24 PM, Blogger Esther said...

Two Islamic terror organizations, shielded by their civilian neighbors in Lebanon, and elected to office in Gaza, commit acts of war, and then call upon the West to restrain the victims from seeking justice. And retribution.

Straight from the Arafat playbook, the Palestinian sucker-punch! Hit Israel and they tell anyone who will listen you want a ceasefire.

Great post!

 
At 7/31/2006 7:11 AM, Blogger Old Soldier said...

Excellent post and comment stream. You and Benning have inspired another post.

Keep up the great work!

 
At 7/31/2006 9:06 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Brooke,
I'm going with mid-century, AOW, unless Europe somehow gets their heads screwed on straight.

Us, by centuries end, if we don't straighten up as well.


You might be right about mid-century for Europe.

I don't know that shari'a law will ever be established here in the States. But if Europe goes down the tubes, America would become very isolated. Not a good prospect.

Justin,
I often think of the boiling-frog analogy.

1.Open borders are what we need these people only come here for work.

Check out Victor Davis Hanson's Mexifornia. Should be required reading for every American!

Tom,
I've also blogrolled you. I love the left-side border at your blog. How did you manage that?

Missing Link,
Thanks! When I find something as excellent as Benning's essay, I "borrow" it. I'm shameless in that regard!

Esther,
Hit Israel and they tell anyone who will listen you want a ceasefire.

I grow weary of it!

I stand with Israel, as you know.

Old Soldier,
Benning and I are privileged that you find this essay an inspiration.

I love your blog, BTW.

 
At 7/31/2006 10:56 AM, Blogger G_in_AL said...

Can Israel ever really have peace? I'm wondering from a Biblical stand point? I mean before Tribulation? I'm asking out of lack of knowledge, not to prove some point or anything.

 
At 7/31/2006 11:05 AM, Blogger Gayle said...

Hi AOW. I saw Benning's wonderfully well-written and expressed post already. It's great, and it's nice of you to post part of it here.

 
At 7/31/2006 11:16 AM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

Why is AOW so interested in kicking Saudi butt when the player is iran.

Hell, we sold the Saudis and the emeirates about 8 billion worth of quality weaponry last week.

All hail Mother Courage.

 
At 7/31/2006 11:32 AM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

g,

Start a huge war, millions of casulaties,
to "save" Israel,
and turn the middle east into a giant pay-at-the-pump Exxon station (that sells 64oz Kool-Aid Big Gulp at the Mini-Mart);

problem? Sounds Christian to me.

 
At 7/31/2006 1:19 PM, Blogger Old Soldier said...

Ducky neither of those two comments sound like a person trying to understand the territory. They resonate quite antagonistic to me; especially the, "Sounds Christian to me," comment.

Are you practicing taqiyya, Ducky? Or are you a man of your word?

 
At 7/31/2006 1:30 PM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

Well, old soldier, I don't have much appetite for a faith that , to my point of view, actively courts violent confrontations and glorifies destruction.

I can't reconcile that with the supposed "culture of life". Evangelical Christians are not peacemakers and I feel they ignore the message of the gospels in favor of Revelations which reads like it was written after 3 days in a Navajo sweat lodge.

Your mileage may vary.

 
At 7/31/2006 2:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Che Sucky Ducky pissed:

"Why is AOW so interested in kicking Saudi butt when the player is iran."

Maybe because the House of Saud and the Wahabbists have been allied since the Brits were stupid enough to GIVE THEM SAUDI ARABIA!!

Maybe because the Petrodollars from the WORLD have been spent to export WAHABBISM WORLDWIDE!!!!!!

Maybe because these Muslims, propagandised by the Wahabbists, are the current worst problem for the world burning, pillaging, raping, murdering, torturing in a manner not seen since Jangis Khan (pronounced like MORON KERRY) (PS: Genghis himself thought the Muslims were STUPID the way they ran their DHIMMI world and banned it where he conquered!!!)

Maybe Che Sucky Ducky is just too stupid to understand the world situation????

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You Che MORON!!!!!

 
At 7/31/2006 2:18 PM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

anonymous --- how much do you pay for thorazine under the new medicaid drug plan?

Do you have children? Are they collecting SSI?

 
At 7/31/2006 2:37 PM, Blogger Old Soldier said...

Ducky, Christ told us there would be wars and rumors of wars. He did not say that Christians would be exempt from the wars. Radical Islam is bringing this fight to the shores of Christianity with their hate fueled fanaticism directly targeting Christianity. Are we to blindly oblige their desires and peacefully lay our necks on their chopping block? Or are Christians allowed to defend themselves?

 
At 7/31/2006 3:24 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Che Sucky Ducky,

My children are self supporting. I do not get medicare, medicaid, educational assistance, grants, aids, food stamps, welfare..............

Che Sucky, how hard do you have to beg your physician for the extra meds??? Or, do you TRADE SERVICES for them!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You MORON!!!!!

 
At 7/31/2006 3:34 PM, Blogger Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Well, old soldier, I don't have much appetite for a faith that , to my point of view, actively courts violent confrontations and glorifies destruction.

So you're not a Muslim. But surely you're not whitewashing the sepulchre of the champion "in the name of Christ" murderers and their papist commanders, are you?

 
At 7/31/2006 4:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Old Soldier said:

" Are we to blindly oblige their desires and peacefully lay our necks on their chopping block? Or are Christians allowed to defend themselves?"

My OPINION is that the "turn the other cheek" has been twisted by the lefties until Jesus himself wouldn't understand where it came from.

I believe that "turn the other cheek" was meant to defuse interpersonal relationships. That is, if someone strikes out in anger or just trying to make you react, DON'T. Low level provacations like this are not worthy of escalating. Unlike Muslims, Christians are NOT supposed to have their PRIDE above others!! Taking the odd slap or other non- serious damage is good for us.

Standing around bent over with the OTHER cheek turned while IslamoNazis or Commies or MS-13... are trying to subdue or kill us are is a totally different situation!!!

I would also remind those who are not familiar with Jesus teachings that he admonished his Apostles to sell their cloaks, if necessary, to BUY SWORDS!!!! Ya think he wanted them to beat them into plow shares or use them to butcher meat or peel fruit/vegetables??

Hammer him Old Soldier!!!

 
At 7/31/2006 5:04 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Duck,
Why is AOW so interested in kicking Saudi butt when the player is iran.

Check my very first blog post on April 28, 2005, when I thought that one had to have a blog in order to be a team blogger. That first posting is no great shakes, certainly, but I've never given Saudi a pass.

 
At 7/31/2006 8:38 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Duck said, I don't have much appetite for a faith that , to my point of view, actively courts violent confrontations and glorifies destruction.

That's Islam, isn't it?

Anonymous,
You've summed up why I have major problems with Saudi.

And excellent point about "turn the other cheek."

 
At 7/31/2006 10:11 PM, Anonymous And Another Thing said...

When Charles De Gaulle kicked NATO headquarters out of Paris in the 60's, he also demanded the removal of all U.S. troops from France. Dean Rusk, then Secretary of State, asked De Gaulle if that included the 80,000 Americans buried there from two world wars. De Gaulle let them remain; he was prideful but not entirely ungrateful.

But I wonder, at what point in this century will the French (and Dutch and Belgian) government require the removal of these soldiers, or at least their offensive headstones of Crosses and Stars of David? Why do 'infidels' travelling to Saudie Arabia and other Islamic countries have to discard any symbols of their faith, along with the Bible?

Quid pro quo is what I say. One faith cannot demand tolerance while also demanding the extermination of other faiths. Christianity and Judaism are old faiths, but they GREW UP.

If you maintain a live and let live attitude while someone keeps trying to kill you then you are and idiot.

 
At 7/31/2006 11:04 PM, Blogger Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

And Another Thing,

When Charles De Gaulle kicked NATO headquarters out of Paris in the 60's, he also demanded the removal of all U.S. troops from France. Dean Rusk, then Secretary of State, asked De Gaulle if that included the 80,000 Americans buried there from two world wars. De Gaulle let them remain; he was prideful but not entirely ungrateful.

But I wonder, at what point in this century will the French (and Dutch and Belgian) government require the removal of these soldiers, or at least their offensive headstones of Crosses and Stars of David?


At the start of the Iraq War in 2003, some brave Frenchman spraypainted "L'Amérique est venue déterre vos ordures" on the gates of the American Cemetery at Normandy.

France, a nation that once flirted with developing into a civilized society until it thought better of it and started calling Voltaire a philosopher, has never experienced the sensation of being relevant in human development.

Pity them.

 
At 8/01/2006 8:03 AM, Blogger Old Soldier said...

”…I don't have much appetite for a faith that, to my point of view, actively courts violent confrontations and glorifies destruction.”

Ducky, as AOW and others have eloquently pointed out; you don’t have an appetite for radical Islam. Okay. You well know that Christianity is not about propagating war just for the sake of war. Christianity is about confronting evil and combating it however is necessary. If your perception of a Christian is a total pacifist, you are mistaken.

”I can't reconcile that with the supposed "culture of life".”

Misperceptions feed other misperceptions. You are purposely nuanced and vague so as to shift your argument of subject as is advantageous to you. If you refer to a generalized stance by Christianity that opposes abortion, supports the death penalty and supports confronting radical Islam, there is nothing to reconcile. Opposing the summarily ordered execution of a child in the womb is confronting evil. Supporting the execution of a convicted murderer is supporting punishment (remember the old term consequence of action) fitting the crime. And lastly, confronting radical Islam is indeed confronting evil.

”Evangelical Christians are not peacemakers and I feel they ignore the message of the gospels in favor of Revelations which reads like it was written after 3 days in a Navajo sweat lodge.”

Evangelical Christians generally are not the warmongers that we rank and file Christians are (that’s sarcasm, Ducky). Evangelicals still uphold the actions of confronting evil. Clearly radical Islam is evil. Any group that would teach their children to literally hate Jews and Christians to the point of wanting to kill is evil personified. If you truly want to understand the territory, view 'Obsessions'. It will only take 78 of your precious minutes.

As for Revelations: your comment insinuates that God is merely a super human. God has clearly told us our ways are not His ways. I expect my Creator is so superior that I cannot fathom His abilities. I can only associate in human terms and that is grossly inadequate. Who are you to suggest that the revelation God gave John relating to the end times was supposed to be written for a kindergartener? Because you do not understand it (or don’t like it) does not mean that it is not understandable.

 
At 8/01/2006 2:34 PM, Blogger The Merry Widow said...

Old Soldier- Not only are spiritual things discerned spiritually, but to those of the world they are foolishness! Everything you said is correct!

tmw

 
At 8/01/2006 4:12 PM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

old soldier, you are in essence correct. However, you do a little cheating to get things to go your way.

I would say that any fundamentalist religion is clearly evil.

A religion that uses a fever dream as the basis for much of their theology shouldn't be surprised that it meets resistence in the rational world.

 
At 8/01/2006 4:56 PM, Blogger The Merry Widow said...

Ducky- It's not about religion(a checklist of do's and don'ts) but a relationship with a real Person, and HE loves relationships! Religions will lead to traditions of men that are useless in the long run! They tend to use force and whack people over the knuckles for perceived sins. Relationships are different! Religion is based on a fever dream(mohammahdism), relationships are different! And the "rational" world is only part of the whole!

tmw

 
At 8/01/2006 4:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Che Sucky Ducky is obviously an expert in all religions. He bloviates:

"I would say that any fundamentalist religion is clearly evil."

You MORON, do you have any idea what a FUNDAMENTALIST religion is???

Obviously NOT.

The phrase "fundamentalist religion" is a simple description of the fact that the religion adheres to the ORIGINAL BASIC PRINCIPLES PUT FORTH WHEN THE RELIGION WAS FIRST ESTABLISHED!!!!! (you know, fundamentals) It has nothing to do with the PRECEPTS OR BELIEFS OF THE RELIGION!!!

You then go on to hallucinate:

"A religion that uses a fever dream as the basis for much of their theology shouldn't be surprised that it meets resistence in the rational world."

I will do you a favor and take your verbiage at face value and agree with you. Any religion based on a fever dream is probably not rational.

Of course, none of the Prophets of the Judaeo Christian Religion were ever writing from a "fever" dream.

You should check your own temperature though!! For your own enjoyment I recommend a rectal thermometer administered by your "friends."

Che Sucky, do you EVER have any idea what you are talking about?? You are soooo consistently wrong I find it hard to believe you are breathing on your own.

Are you really a Chinese experiment on computer animation of brain dead bodies to take over the US???

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You BRAIN DEAD MORON!!!

 
At 8/01/2006 5:03 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Duck,
A religion that uses a fever dream as the basis for much of their theology

Surely you know that not all Christians and not all Christian fundamentalists are in agreement as to how to interpret the Book of Revelation. And while some fundamentalists put a great deal of emphasis on Revelation, not all do. There is much more to fundamental Christianity than eschatology.

As for me, I do not see it as the task of Christians to try to bring about a particular interpretation of Revelation. Didn't Jesus say, "No man knows the day nor the hour..."? As I see my own personal Christian duty, it is one of service, being busy until the Lord returns.

Having said all the above, I know that many see the Left Behind series as the be-all-and-end-all for fundamentalist Christianity. Mistaken idea.

"Fever dream"? Is that how you regard the inspired Word of the Lord? Well, you have the right to believe that. But I'd like to point out that the Muslims' claim to Jerusalem rests upon a dream which MTP had. If all "fever dreams" are irrational, then MTP's dream would also have been. HERE is a neurologist's possible explanation for MTP's vision.

 
At 8/01/2006 5:13 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

TMW,
Religion is based on a fever dream(mohammahdism), relationships are different!

Excellent point!

You were typing in your comment as I was working on mine. LOL.

 
At 8/01/2006 5:15 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Anonymous,
The phrase "fundamentalist religion" is a simple description of the fact that the religion adheres to the ORIGINAL BASIC PRINCIPLES PUT FORTH WHEN THE RELIGION WAS FIRST ESTABLISHED!!!!!

The exact point I was trying to make in an earlier comment.

 
At 8/01/2006 5:20 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

And Another Thing,
One faith cannot demand tolerance while also demanding the extermination of other faiths.

Somebody needs to hammer that point home to the Islamofascists.

 
At 8/01/2006 5:25 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Justin,
Americans need to be told the truth. This war is not just a word or boogey man creeping out of the closet. It is a war with a group of people and they have to be dealt with .

The Left will never admit that.

 
At 8/01/2006 5:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Che Sucky Ducky averred:

"A religion that uses a fever dream as the basis for much of their theology shouldn't be surprised that it meets resistence in the rational world."

Actually Che Sucky, a much more accurate statement would be:

A religion that gets in between man and his selfish desires will meet resistance in the REAL world.

As far as rationality, you should do penance for your ignorance by looking up the religious affiliations, or lack therof, of all documented SCIENTISTS who have contributed to our understanding of the PHYSICAL WORLD.

Not many ATHEISTS are smart enough to contribute!!!

HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 
At 8/01/2006 5:46 PM, Blogger American Crusader said...

Disproportionate response...that's exactly what you're supposed to do in a war.

 
At 8/01/2006 5:53 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Crusader,
Hey, that's what I thought!

I've been swamped with medical matters (You know how THAT can be!) and never stated what I strongly believe: No war has ever been one by limited response.

 
At 8/01/2006 8:15 PM, Anonymous Justin said...

No, No Crusader dont you know everyone else uses proportional response with the exception of the Israelies. If they had done nothing the way the U.N. and EU are wired it would have been disproportiate.

To the U.N. and the E.U. just the fact that they exist at all is disproportinate.

It may be wrong to feel this way but I was thinking the other day just how sad it was that one of those planes on 9-11 did not hit the U.N. tower and bring it to the ground. Then maybe we could move them to Iran where their loyalties lie.

 
At 8/01/2006 8:17 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Justin,
It may be wrong to feel this way but I was thinking the other day just how sad it was that one of those planes on 9-11 did not hit the U.N. tower and bring it to the ground.

I've had that thought--and before the last few weeks.

The U.N. is a waste of Manhattan real-estate.

What good are the so-called U.N. observers? And not just in Lebanon!

 
At 8/01/2006 9:39 PM, Blogger Old Soldier said...

”old soldier, you are in essence correct. However, you do a little cheating to get things to go your way.”

Come on, Ducky, I’m just following a master’s lead, now.

”I would say that any fundamentalist religion is clearly evil.”

I cannot agree on this point. I consider myself to be a fundamentalist Christian in that I believe in a literal six day creation, virgin birth, the death, burial and resurrection of Christ the Son of God, and of course Christ is God incarnate. That’s the down and dirty version. As a fundamentalist I believe in Christ’s great commission – go and tell all the world. He did not say go tell all the world and kill those that will not believe.

I think the concept you were reaching for is radical fanaticism. Those that twisted the message to justify slavery and murder of blacks were radical fanatics – and just plain wrong. I agree that this kind of religious practice is very dangerous and unwanted.

One observation: you used the term “evil”, which implies or infers a belief in God. Evil refers to Satan and his minions in opposition to God Almighty. Do you believe in God, Ducky?

”A religion that uses a fever dream as the basis for much of their theology shouldn't be surprised that it meets resistence in the rational world.”

There has been a lot said about this already. I personally do not believe John was in a “fevered” dream when he received Revelations. However the “rational world” as you know it comes from Christian-Judeo beliefs. The Psalmist told us, The fear of the Lord is the beginning of Wisdom. Our ability to acquire and retain knowledge and use it wisely (wisdom) is a gift of God in the way we are made, not the result of escaping a primordial swamp.

 
At 8/02/2006 7:04 AM, Blogger The Merry Widow said...

Old Soldier- Standing ovation, sir!
Good morning and G*D bless!

tmw

 
At 8/02/2006 7:33 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Old Soldier,
Ditto to what TMW said!

Do you believe in God, Ducky?

I'll be interested in Duck's response to your question. Perhaps Duck will also explain his concept of God. A lot of people say they believe in God, but when they give the particulars, they are not the same as what I believe.

 
At 8/02/2006 9:21 AM, Blogger Pim's Ghost said...

Great essay! Great discussion as well. Funny, by the time I read through the comments I have entirely different things to say. One interesting theory postulated by a Dutch author in a book that is now being released in English under the title Megatrends Europe involves the ever increasing flight from Western Europe of native Europeans to either the Eastern European countries (who'd have thought that a few decades ago?) or to other countries entirely. All caused by the refusal in Western European countries by the governments and elites to stand up to the ever threatening Muslim minorities. Hell, when women in Northern European countries are already going out wearing headscarves to prevent either verbal or physical attacks, you can see why those who can't abide by that pathetic sort of posturing would just leave. There is no organized fight, and any that emerges is usually smacked down by the establishment, even by the people who condemn such sense of self-preservation and then quietly slip out of their countries. And oddly, it is harder for these Europeans to get into the US than to many other countries, harder than getting here legally than people FROM other countries.

I like this "Che Ducky" name, for I despise that murderer Che and I think it amusing that his image has enjoyed the success of capitalistic ventures. All the better to insult him without even realizing it. I've often wondered how many kids wearing their stupid Che shirts have had their asses kicked when visiting certain areas of Florida I have lived in. Cubans there are already celebrating over Castro. About time the bastard goes.

Most Christians are a bit more tempered, most don't take the Bible literally. Fundamentalists, and extreme evangelical fundamentlists are not as common as you suppose, Duck. Perhaps they appear moreso online, but many of the more extreme you see online are considered freaks and pariahs in their own communities, for example Fred Phelps. Even so, how on earth are Christians who may quietly believe that this may be a signal of the end times more threatening than Islamic fundamentalists (and by this I mean those who are willing to take their holy book so literally as to ACTUALLY kill the unbelievers) who strap bombs to themselves or fly planes into buildings, etc? You've got Eric Rudolph, that's it. As for the muslims, you have thousands. And why not bring up Ahmadinejad's belief that fomenting war with Israel and Western nations will bring about the Shi'a version of Armageddon? He's ACTIVELY seeking this goal.

Benning is right. Israel has tried, and the "Poke, poke poke" link is not too far off. If you aren't seeking war, don't provoke Israel. Try the UN instead if you want little or no response.

 
At 8/02/2006 11:00 AM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

Do I believe in God, yes, I am a practicing Roman Catholic. I don't put much stock in the Old Testement and I consider the writings of Paul to be the description of the human work of building the church but the gospels represent the values of the church.

The Church is a human institution and can err.

Philosophically I probably come close to Kierkegaard, Pascal and especially Gabriel Marcel. That existentialism requires tackling concrete ethical and religious demands. The end times are not a working concept in the literal sense held by evangelical churches. I reject their doctrine completely and question their spiritual life.

Man is completely free and completely responsible for what he makes of himself. He cannot make much of himself without community and especially a faith based community.

I believe in the two great commandments and accept the acts of mercy as a basis for my ethics and morality. I don't waste my time and soul proselityzing against homosexuals.

I reject Genesis in a literal sense. if evangelicals have difficulties with science then it is THEIR problem, not sciences or mine. They adjust, not the fact based world.

I also have a very difficult time rejecting Spinoza's pantheism.

Democratic socialism is a far more "christian" political and economic orientation than laissez-faire capitalism. America and Israel have no exceptional status or blessing.

It goes on but I've probably given the hornets nest a sufficient whack.

 
At 8/02/2006 11:19 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Duck,
Thank you for taking the time to leave your long explanation.

You already know that I disagree with the following: Democratic socialism is a far more "christian" political and economic orientation than laissez-faire capitalism. I won't belabor the point right now.

Let me ask you another question. You mentioned the following about Paul: I don't put much stock in the Old Testement and I consider the writings of Paul to be the description of the human work of building the church...

Would it be fair to say the you do not believe that the entire Bible is the inspired Word of God? As a Protestant, some of the included books in my Bible might differ from yours--I'm not sure, so you will correct me if I'm wrong.

In your above long comment, I find what appear to be two points of agreement between us:

1. the gospels represent the values of the church.

2. The Church is a human institution and can err.

At least the "err" part.

There's more to your comment, of course.

I rather imagine the hornets nest may be stirred up. LOL.

 
At 8/02/2006 12:11 PM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

It is fair to say AOW, that I do not accept the "literal truth" of the Bible.

It's not even an idea that makes empiric sense. "Literal truth" is dogma from Martin Luther et. al. No, I do not accept it.

I put great emphasis on The Sermon On the Mount because that has the strongest historical support. The Gnostics support it pretty thoroughly.

The holy mysteries such as the virgin birth are critical allegory that can't be understood by reason and hence can't be "believed" in a strict sense.

 
At 8/02/2006 12:11 PM, Blogger Old Soldier said...

Ducky, no hornet stings from me. We may disagree in some respects yet in others, I find we agree. Frankly, I was surprised and pleased to learn you are a practicing Catholic (that was not meant derogatorily) and I personally thank you for being that open. I am a practicing Southern Baptist, but I doubt that surprises you.

I agree that the church is a human institution, yet it was established by Christ for His purposes not for man’s (purpose). Whenever the human element is involved, errors occur. Basically, I find that when a body of believers (a church) keeps their eyes on Christ, there is little erring, but when humans try to lead, things start going south.

”Man is completely free and completely responsible for what he makes of himself. He cannot make much of himself without community and especially a faith based community.”

A very profound statement with which I agree.

”I reject Genesis in a literal sense. if evangelicals have difficulties with science then it is THEIR problem, not sciences or mine. They adjust, not the fact based world.”

Obviously, I don’t (reject Genesis) but from the scientific perspective it is a matter of looking at the same evidence and concluding differently, and from the spiritual perspective it is a matter of how much faith we have that the Bible is inerrant.

”Democratic socialism is a far more "christian" political and economic orientation than laissez-faire capitalism.”

I find the Bible to be replete with capitalism (buying, selling, fairness in scales, etc.), but find not one example of a socialistic society. First of all, we are to be dependant upon God, not one another, so to me that eliminates socialism right there. Secondly, the Bible teaches alms, not taxation, and no doctrine of each according to his needs from each according to his abilities (I probably screwed that up, but you get the drift).

I didn’t respond line by line, so if I missed something to which you would like for me to respond, say so. Again, thanks for the openness.

 
At 8/02/2006 12:13 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Pim's Ghost,
when women in Northern European countries are already going out wearing headscarves to prevent either verbal or physical attacks

Won't find the msm carrying THAT story!

Even those Christian fundies you mentioned aren't prone to violence or terrorist attacks. On the other hand, As for the muslims, you have thousands [More, I think]. And why not bring up Ahmadinejad's belief that fomenting war with Israel and Western nations will bring about the Shi'a version of Armageddon? He's ACTIVELY seeking this goal.

Also, "fundie" is a broad label.

 
At 8/02/2006 12:23 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Duck,
I appreciate your response. I wasn't exactly asking about literalness, though. Jesus told stories in allegory form--parables. And much of the Old Testament present types of the Messiah.

I was asking about inspiration by God. I believe that symbolism is included in the Bible, though I do believe in the literal Virgin birth.

Maybe I was asking more along the lines of the infallibility of Scripture.

Just as an aside here, I don't fret over the literal six-day creation and trying to reconcile it with science. I know that some Christians will not agree with me that a what man calls "a day" can encompass more than a day. But for myself, I'll wait until we don't have to "see through a glass darkly" to get answers to the mysteries.

As to your mention of the two great commandments, I hold with that, of course, in a literal sense. And I take the Great Commission literally.

Let's try another question....Do you believe in the literal resurrection of Jesus?

PS: Glad that I skipped the pool today. Too hot! And this is an excellent discussion.

PPS: Did you get my message about not censoring you? I didn't! Just wondering.

 
At 8/02/2006 12:55 PM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

old soldier, I have made the argument with AOW over democratic socialism (thank you for not accusinf me of being a communist). She knows that I place a lot of emphasis on the loaves and fishes.

There is enough for everyone but we have to share. Gahndi hit it when he said there is ample bounty in the world for our need but not for our greed. I see most manifestations of laissez-faire as an engine of greed. This becomes a hot issue but I honestly think it is the one where I might find common ground with evangelicals.
The issue becomes difficult when stewardship of the earth is dismissed because of anticipation of the end times.

I think it's claear that "end times" is the main point of contention I have with evangelicals. I have great difficulty with a faith that focuses on cataclysmic destruction.

The world ends, yes and the universe eventually snaps back and regenerates. God is eternal.

 
At 8/02/2006 1:08 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Duck,
Even though the following wasn't addressed to me:

1. The issue becomes difficult when stewardship of the earth is dismissed because of anticipation of the end times.

2. I think it's claear that "end times" is the main point of contention I have with evangelicals. I have great difficulty with a faith that focuses on cataclysmic destruction.

Agreed on both points. Although I think study of the end times is of great interest, I don't focus on the destruction but rather on my service as I understand it to be. Part of my perspective came from my father's Church of the Brethren backgound, no doubt.

 
At 8/02/2006 2:09 PM, Blogger Old Soldier said...

Ducky, I do not perceive you to have communistic tendencies, especially in view of your recent comments. No, sir, I shall not call you a communist.

Loafs and fishes: I take that episode literally, in that Christ quite literally fed the multitude from the loaves and fishes given to Him (two instances). I believe the message is twofold; first it shows Christ’s compassion of people, second it emphasized His deity. He did not take what several people had and divide it among those present (a socialistic example) He took what was available and supernaturally multiplied it to be sufficient for everyone’s needs – in other words, Christ is sufficient – not that socialism is sufficient. Does that make sense? Of course the foundation is having the faith to believe exactly what is written.

I don’t focus on the end times and don’t pretend to believe I have a handle on it. I do believe the signs point to our being in or near the end times, that everything that is happening was foretold. But I do not believe that I should conduct myself predicated upon when the end will occur; in other words I don’t believe in the axiom eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow ye shall die. Christ told us to be ready, for we would not know the appointed hour. That was pretty clear to me.

Stewardship of the earth: I certainly believe we have an obligation to be good stewards of the earth. I do not believe in worshipping the earth. Being good stewards can and should include extracting the bounty (oil, minerals, etc.) in a responsible way. After all, God told us to have dominion over the earth. I take that to mean use it in a responsible way. God foresaw our need and dependence upon oil for our lifestyles. If He didn’t, then we have to question His omniscience. I don’t believe He intend us to not harvest what is available, but to be responsible in doing so. (Now I’m repeating myself – you get the gist of it.) Lastly, I do not agree with irresponsibly raping the earth because it will all be destroyed eventually. Dispensational millennialists believe that Christ will reign on the earth for one thousand years after the Great Tribulation (when Satan is cast into the lake of fire). Responsible usage of the earth is a plus to those folks.

 
At 8/02/2006 2:23 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Old Soldier,
I don’t focus on the end times and don’t pretend to believe I have a handle on it. I do believe the signs point to our being in or near the end times, that everything that is happening was foretold. But I do not believe that I should conduct myself predicated upon when the end will occur; in other words I don’t believe in the axiom eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow ye shall die. Christ told us to be ready, for we would not know the appointed hour. That was pretty clear to me.

Yes, yes, yes!

Dispensational millennialists believe that Christ will reign on the earth for one thousand years after the Great Tribulation (when Satan is cast into the lake of fire). Responsible usage of the earth is a plus to those folks.

And not just for them. Stewardship is an important principle for many Christians who aren't of that persuasion. The first command: "Keep and dress the garden."

One of the main problems I have with socialism is that it is man-centered.

 
At 8/02/2006 2:42 PM, Blogger Old Soldier said...

AOW, do you, too, appreciate the civil discussions with Ducky? They are so much more enlightening than lobbing grenades at each other.

 
At 8/02/2006 2:53 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Old Soldier,
Yes! Duck and I have had some good discussions. We disagree on a lot of matters, but in the past year, we seem to have reached the ability to communicate. I'm not sure that Duck feels that way, but I do.

Not that he and I are anywhere near being buds. And we've certainly had a few rought spots. But I've never been one to hold a grudge; in keeping with that aspect of my personality, I won't publicly air a few of our rough spots.

 
At 8/02/2006 3:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Democratic Socialism.

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I would remind you that our Founding Fathers DID NOT give us a Democracy. Their reasonaing was that the mob would vote itself money from those who have it.

In other words, the lazy would use their vote to enrich themselves at the expense of those who have money.

The Founding Fathers were AGAINST PERSONAL TAXES. Why??

Look at the reality. Those who vote have elected people who have structured a PROGRESSIVE tax system that IS NOT EQUAL. The lower incomes pay a LESSER PERCENTAGE of their income!!! The lowest incomes are GIVEN MONEY!!!

The top taxpayers pay about 90% of the taxes!!!!!!

There can be no clearer example of why populism and democracy is a MISTAKE!!!!

Basically ANY form of gubmint would work if you have a constituency that is educated and willing to WORK for themselves and cooperate with others for mutual gain.

NO FORM OF GUBMINT WILL EVER WORK WHERE THERE IS AN ENTITLEMENT MENTALITY!!!!!!

I throw the terms Socialist, Communist, Marxist, Democrat, Republican around with full awareness that NONE of them have ever been implemented in a relatively pure form because there has NEVER BEEN A PEOPLE CAPABLE OF GOVERNING THEMSELVES UNDER THEM. (the US came close but the stupidity of allowing equality of vote to those incapable of evaluating the situation is sinking us) If the people were capable of self government, THEY WOULDN'T NEED A GUBMINT!!!!!

Gubmint always has been, and always will be, the method of coercing the uncooperative part of the group.

I will repeat in case you didn't catch it. Gubmint is a method of coercion. How BAD it is strictly depends on the STUPIDITY of the people involved.

You might be wondering at this point why I attack people who promote communism and socialism... so cnsistently. I will tell you.

I have never met someone promoting these ideas that understood they were promoting cooercion and the difficulty of limiting methods of cooercion (gubmint). In fact, most of those promoting these ideas are idealists that do not understand the first thing about human nature and how it will destroy any of these systems in short order.

Every historical case has ended in immediate oppression of the people with associated horrendous loss of human life.

This also goes back to my total lack of sympathy for agnostics and atheists. Only a few of them REALLY are humanitarian. Without any humanitarianism how do you build a cooperative civilisation?? How many people will actually work in good faith with others to increase the overall good for the group??

I see no examples in history where humans have worked together for long periods without something external, religion, large enemy armies... to FORCE THEM TOGETHER.

The solution of course is to TEACH people values of mutual respect, cooperation, love, hard work, respect, respect, respect, humility... (yeah, I am a poster boy for lack of respect and humility)

Our current lefty education is going in the direction of self worth and feelings. Exactly the wrong direction AGAIN!!!

What have I seen in HIstory that has worked at times?? Judaeo/Christian values!!! These have been twisted and abused by people over the centuries just like everything else, BUT, they keep coming back to the FUNDAMENTALS. The VALUES that work.

We make a big deal about Islam being violent. Its real problem is not putting more stress on respect, equality, and humility!!!

So, keep promoting a particular process. That process will fail because of the PEOPLE!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

PS: The Fathers were very hesitant about implementing a NATIONAL gubmint over the states for fear of what has and is happening!!! The further gubmint is away from the people the worse it will end up!!!

 
At 8/02/2006 4:17 PM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

Well here's a tip, old soldier. Discussion about film ALWAYS puts me in a good mood especially Robert Altman's "Prairie Home Companion" currently.

Discussion of Iraq always puts me in a very bad mood.

 
At 8/02/2006 6:50 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Duck,
Have you seen Prairie Home Companion? I just watched the online trailer.

 
At 8/02/2006 6:51 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Duck,
Your opinion of the film's soundtrack?

 
At 8/03/2006 12:41 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Che Sucky Ducky,

Here is a Canadian's apology to the ME:

http://www.israpundit.com/2006/?p=2109#more-2109

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 
At 8/03/2006 2:33 PM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

AOW, Priarie Home Companion is even more interesting if you compare it to Altman's "Nashville". He's always been a pessimist and he really showed a hatred for traditional country music (which I like very much) in "Nashville". He ended that film with "It Don't Worry Me".

Here he ends with an ensemble "In the Sweet By and By". Altman's had two heart surgeries and he's looking at mortality and he may have made his peace with God. He's at worst neutral here.

I can't stand Meryl Streep or Lindsay Lohan but they are both outstanding here and Lohan's vamp on "Frankie and Johnny" makes me wonder if she really might have some talent.

He's always been an actor's director who likes to improvise and they all cut loose here. I really like the film and after bucking Hollywood all these years I'm glad Altman seems to have found some peace of mind.

Solid traditional music, meditations on God and death, physical comedy, great ensemble acting, fart jokes, fluid camera work. Got it all.

 
At 8/03/2006 2:43 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Duck,
"In the Sweet By and By" was my grandmother's favorite hymn. We used it at her funeral, of course. My grandmother and I were very close. I still miss her. I'm partial to "Sweet." Maybe I should buy the soundtrack. I collect soundtracks, when I can afford them.

How do you define traditional country music? Somewhat along the lines of certain songs in O Brother?... As you probably know, my maternal ancestors hailed from east Tennessee. Some excellent music in those hills, IMO.

The film sounds excellent. I wonder if it's playing in my area? I have a gift card from AMC Entertainment. Off to check the listings in the paper right now.

Note: I don't like Meryl Streep at all. Never have. Can't quite say why, though.

 
At 8/03/2006 2:46 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Duck,
The film is not playing in a theater convenient to me. Is this a limited release?

 
At 8/23/2006 9:38 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What price Isreal ?

Isreal cannot survive 24 hours without the U.S. help. Creation of Isreal was a great mistake, and she is not going to be any safer in next 20 years. Move all the isrealies to Montana. Get rid of the world head ach.

 
At 8/23/2006 9:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Evil Triangle!

Isreal, Uk.,US. are trying to control the world in the name of "democracy" which it is an old wine in a new botel, the colonialism

 

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