Sunday, August 06, 2006

Update on the Flight 93 Memorial

(This posting stuck toward the top through August 14, 2006. Scroll down for other postings by Always On Watch)

A few days ago, Alec Rawls, the author or Error Theory, sent me an email. Excerpt:
"The Memorial Project is finally accepting public comment on its barely modified Crescent of Embrace design for the Flight 93 memorial. I have posted links and a primer on some of the Islamic and jihadist features that remain fully intact in this design. (It is actually a mosque.)"
The following is from the July 10, 2006 posting at Error Theory:

"The Flight 93 Memorial Project has opened up a comment period (through August 14th) on whether it should proceed with its plan to build a slightly modified version of the original Crescent of Embrace design, or start over by adopting a 'No Action alternative.'

"Starting over is imperative because the Crescent design was, and still is, a plan to build the world’s largest mosque...."
Read the rest here.

If you find Mr. Rawls's analysis worthy, email your objections to the Flight 93 Memorial Project. Here is a model to use for composing an email.

Mr. Rawls also points out the following:
"People might also want to send their comments to Memorial Project Chairman John Reynolds (jreynolds@nationalparks.org) and to Superintendent Hanley's boss Mary Bomar (mary_bomar@nps.gov). The Project has a history of ignoring information and criticism. CCing comments to the Project's overseers could help."
I have already fired off my three emails.

46 Comments:

At 7/13/2006 12:00 AM, Blogger MonicaR said...

I left a comment at the website. I noticed that LGF had a link to it and the more this is put out there for people to see the more I am hoping that they will be flooded with objections to their nefarious plan.

 
At 7/13/2006 12:27 AM, Blogger Esther said...

I truly cannot fathom how anyone can think THIS is a good idea??? Do they want to be insulting? Are they that clueless? Absolutely unreal.

 
At 7/13/2006 3:46 AM, Anonymous religion of pieces said...

Islam is an honor/shame culture of dominance/submission. Not only must the Muslim kill as many Kaffirs as possible, but he must humiliate their friends and relatives and 'make them feel subdued'. Witness the disgraceful IslamExpo taqiyya-fest held to coincide with the anniversary of the London bombings:

http://islamexpo.blogspot.com/

http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm?blog_id=703

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/012137.php

No doubt this time next year, there'll be a lavishly funded Expo in Mumbai celebrating Islam's contribution to Indian culture.

As the dhimmiwatch post says, these people will shit on your doorstep then ring the bell and ask for toilet paper.

 
At 7/13/2006 6:36 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

ROP,
Witness the disgraceful IslamExpo taqiyya-fest held to coincide with the anniversary of the London bombings

To take the attention off the ideology behind the London bombings? I think so.

LOL at that metaphor at the end of your comment!

 
At 7/13/2006 6:38 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Esther,
At least there is now a comment period. I'm guessing that objections have been filed all over the place, previous to this comment period.

Murdoch should be released and another architect found.

Monica R,
I was a bit late in posting on this. But the notice is up now and will stay up through the closing date of the comment period.

 
At 7/14/2006 1:02 AM, Anonymous Seth said...

Here is the comment I sent them:

"The tragic events of 11 September 2001 were perpetrated in the name of Islam. Whether the deeds on that day spoke for all Muslims or just a few, it is ludicrous that anyone would build a memorial to those brave passengers who died that day in the form of anything even remotely resembling anything Islamic.

Not only do I find the concept demeaning to the memory of the victims of that act of terrorism, but anyone with an IQ of more than 6 would realize that a memorial with any kind of Islamic theme would only send a message to the mental primitives of al-Qaeda that we were paying them some kind of tribute for their nefarious act."

 
At 7/14/2006 5:45 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Seth,
I'm glad that you sent in a comment!

anyone would build a memorial to those brave passengers who died that day in the form of anything even remotely resembling anything Islamic.

Yes, and would cite "the will of Allah" as well.

Of late I've been reading a recently published book entitled Knowing the Enemy. The author points out that one particular group of jihadis focuses on the destruction of Western civilization and on the sovereignty of Allah. The proposed memorial would play into that mindset.

 
At 7/14/2006 6:53 AM, Blogger Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

They can build it.

But can they keep it from burning down?

 
At 7/14/2006 6:56 AM, Blogger Brooke said...

Email away!

What a travesty to willfully slap the victims of Islamofascism directly in the face! What a travesty to honor the jihadis like this!

Hell, we may as well ask them to commit even more acts of terror on us... When they do, we build them a frickin' shrine!


"As the dhimmiwatch post says, these people will shit on your doorstep then ring the bell and ask for toilet paper."

ROTFLMAO!!!

 
At 7/14/2006 6:58 AM, Blogger Brooke said...

"They can build it.

But can they keep it from burning down?"


Mr. Beamish... That just made my day!

 
At 7/14/2006 7:52 AM, Anonymous gravelrash said...

Holy shiite, I cannot believe this!!! What the hell are these people thinking?
Are comments from Aussies valid/allowed? Bugger it, I'm going to send them anyway.
What the %$&#!!!!!

 
At 7/14/2006 9:06 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Gravelrash,
I think that anyone can send in comments. Anyway, go ahead. The criteria for the comments are posted at Error Theory, and I don't recall the American citizenship is one of the criteria.

 
At 7/14/2006 2:03 PM, Blogger WomanHonorThyself said...

Could it GET any more offensive than this!..Spit!!!

 
At 7/14/2006 5:39 PM, Anonymous Seth said...

Yeah, AOW,

They use freedoms we have that their countries don't and the very hospitable nature of our own country against us, and they're aided and abetted every step of the way by the likes of CAIR, the ACLU, liberal judges and politicians and, of course, the liberal media.

 
At 7/14/2006 6:30 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

WHT,
Desecrating the memory of those brave individuals about Flight 11 enrages me.

Seth,
Yes, all the utopians line up together.

 
At 7/15/2006 1:28 PM, Blogger Mike's America said...

Thanks for posting on this. I had not heard anything lately on the subject. I'll get my post linking to yours and email up soon.

 
At 7/15/2006 1:38 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Mike,
Thanks! The more comments objecting, the better!

 
At 7/16/2006 3:50 PM, Blogger Mike's America said...

Thanks for your link on the Saudis and Hezbollah:

http://www.westernresistance.com/blog/archives/002575.html


I'll just trade you that link for this one:

http://www.freedomhouse.org/religion/news/bn2005/bn-2005-2006-05-23.htm

It's an update on Freedom House's thorough investigation of the Saudi funded Wahabbi hate culture:

May 23, 2006 -- Freedom House’s Center for Religious Freedom today released a report analyzing a set of Saudi Ministry of Education textbooks in use during the current academic year in Islamic studies courses for elementary and secondary students. The textbooks promote an ideology of hatred toward people, including Muslims, who do not subscribe to the Wahhabi sect of Islam.

The report, entitled Saudi Arabia’s Curriculum of Intolerance, was prepared by Freedom House’s Center for Religious Freedom in cooperation with the Institute for Gulf Affairs.

 
At 7/16/2006 10:01 PM, Blogger Gayle said...

Well AOW, I thought from the comment you left on MRB that you had posted on this too. Good. And LMC. Wonderful! The more the better. This is so utterly insulting it's beyond belief!

 
At 7/16/2006 10:06 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Gayle,
I've been spreading the word as best I can. Emails to blogless friends as well.

 
At 7/17/2006 10:18 AM, Blogger Old Soldier said...

Perhaps the beest way to address this issue is to take the description away from the designers and publize a new reason for the 'crescent'; that we want the world to know and understand that "Muslims" were responsible for the loss of life associated with flight 93's crash. See if CAIR doeesn't object and a new memorial isn't designed right away...

 
At 7/17/2006 2:37 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Old Soldier,
If CAIR were to object, the current designed would come to a screeching halt faster than a NY minute.

 
At 7/17/2006 6:09 PM, Anonymous Seth said...

AOW --

Sad but true that our deadliest enemies have a representative organization here in this country that has that much power.

It's a sterling example of reasons to ask the question, "What's wrong with this picture?"

 
At 7/17/2006 8:28 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Seth,
CAIR refused to disclose its financial records, thus leading to the dismissal of the lawsuit against Andrew Whitehead of Anti-CAIR. What does that tell us?

Nevertheless, CAIR flexes its muscle and intimidates people against speaking their minds.

 
At 7/18/2006 7:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

AOW,

Thanks so much for putting up that link; I had written to many of those involved many times in the past, without response, of course. The consistent failure to respond to comments is revealing in its own right.


Mr. Beamish,

I had very similar thoughts. My dignified (but not subtle) e-mail had a reference to jackhammers and chain saws. I suggested that they not build the morally obscene monument to the murderers, but go back to square one and hire an architect who had some insight into the reason for the memorial in the first place.

The original architect tried to deny that the Terrorist Monument he designed was an Islamic symbol - this despite the name and color of the disgusting design ("Crescent of Embrace" formed by red maples). Can you believe it? What a PC toadie!

 
At 7/18/2006 7:14 PM, Blogger Cubed © said...

Not anonymous - Cubed. Punched something wrong. Sigh.

 
At 7/18/2006 7:24 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Cubed,
Have you checked our Old Soldier's IDEA? Might just work!

When the Crescent of Embrace was proposed last year, I thought I'd have a stroke! Would a memorial for the Holocaust be called "Swastika of Embrace"?

You said, morally obscene monument to the murderers. PC is morally obscene, of course. I grow weary of the PC mentality pervading Western culture.

 
At 7/19/2006 6:10 PM, Blogger benning said...

I linked to you and Mike's America - as well as Error Theory - in my own feeble post on this.

How do the dumbest, most repressive people in this country always end up in positions of power and influence over the rest of us? There oughta be a Law!

 
At 7/19/2006 7:45 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Benning,
I discount that your post is "feeble." You're an excellent writer.

Thanks for linking.

Can't we simply have a memorial which is unquestionably AMERICAN?

Don't forget to send your three emails.

 
At 7/20/2006 4:44 PM, Blogger Mr. Ducky said...

benning, are you talking about Chucklenuts? I wish Big Dawg were back.

Clinton was practically the textbook ideal of what a conservative Republican president aspires to be. He balanced the budget, he shrank the government, did NAFTA, reduced welfare, he tried to stop government from sticking its nose into our individual lives.

I don' know what Bush is. He spends money like a drunken sailor (curses like one too). He greatly increased the size of government, he has government sticking its probes all over our daily lives, and that has nothing to do with terrorism. I'd be willing to bet he started all his illegal snooping way before 9-11. 9-11 was just a convenient excuse after the fact.

 
At 7/20/2006 5:08 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

MR Sucky Ducky:

Obviously you don't remember the Clipper Chip that the Clintoon administration tried to foist on the telecommunications industry. Ask Al Bore, he invented it apparently along with the Internet!!! This chip would have allowed the gubmint to tap anything in the telecommunications sector. Of course, it was ONLY to be used after a LEGAL WARRANT.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I seem to remember that Newt Gringrich had a lot of mano a mano's with your hero Clintoon to get all these Republican issues passed. This is the reason I wouldn't be fully supportive of Newt. He is a DEALER!!! He gave Clintoon a few things in exchange for not vetoing bills that would have made Clintoon look bad and probably lose him money from the Corporate Sector!!

So, Bush spends a lot of money, and is bringing in enough money to pay a lot of the debts that previous Democratic admins created (like the war on IslamoNazis). Morons like you ALWAYS ignore that the gubmint budget is mostly SOCIAL programs. Whether for poor people or corporations it is all WELFARE!!!

How much of that do you get SUCKY???

Bush at least can act like a real man and not like a rutting animal. If he was 1/2 the man he is he would still be twice the man that most Democrats are. Sorry if that makes you about 1/20 the Prez. Kerry turned out to have a lower GPA than Bush for example!!! Al Bore dropped out and didn't even finish the Religious school he went to!!!

I would also point out that the Clintoon admin, to cover their criminal activities, cut the lines of communication between all the military and civilian intelligence services. Damn, I wonder what resulted from that stupidity. Can Little MR Sucky Ducky tell me about that part of you heroes successes??

You are such a FOOL you will invite the Muzzies to come over here and stone you to death.

I hope you get your wish.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You MORON!!!

 
At 7/20/2006 5:12 PM, Blogger Cubed © said...

AOW,

Just got back from Old Soldier's! Thanks!

 
At 7/20/2006 7:47 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Anonymous,
I think that Duck might be one of the first to the gallows under shari'a law, because of his, uh, proclivities.

 
At 7/21/2006 4:16 PM, Anonymous Debbie said...

I never could understand why any of the families, architects, etc. approved the crescent design to begin with. It is an insult to the bravery of those on that flight and I would never stand for it.

It's good to be back reading your posts. You would not believe the majestic mosques I saw on our travels during the last two weeks. The largest ones were in OHIO of all places.

Gold domes, spires, crescent/star on spires, right off the interstate where they could be seen for MILEs. Scary

 
At 7/21/2006 4:23 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Hi, Debbie! And welcome back!

I've seen mosques in some rather unusual places here in the states, including the mountains of Appalachia.

 
At 7/22/2006 5:01 AM, Anonymous gravelrash said...

Old Soldier is on the money!
Make it known that this represents the role of Islam in the 9/11 atrocity.....and watch the anchor babies run to the press!!!
How about a blood red crescent? (Always assuming you are not able to defeat this outrageous offence)


I hate Islam. I know you do too. Till the last breath.

 
At 7/22/2006 7:37 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Gravelrash,
Just a related factoid here...Yesterday a radio interviewer challenged CAIR's Ibrahim Hooper to the point where Hooper hung up in a huff. We need more interviewers like that one!

Old Soldier is wise.

 
At 7/23/2006 8:24 AM, Blogger Justin said...

Always:

I just fired off scathing e-mails to these moron's for even considering to build a memorial in this fashion let alone having it face mecca.

Who are they trying to honor? The brave people who stopped what would have happened or the terrorist who did not get to complete their final plan?

I guess I should go ahead and just make my name change permanent.

Thanks for the post
Justin

 
At 7/28/2006 3:22 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

One response I got, via email:

Thank you for your recent email to National Park Service Northeast Regional
Director Mary Bomar concerning the design of the Flight 93 National
Memorial. While recognizing that some have questioned the memorial and
perceive it to have unintended meanings, it might be helpful to explain how
the design was developed and the role of the Federal Advisory Commission,
family members of those aboard Flight 93, and other partners. The Families
of Flight 93 managed the contract with the juried design competition
consultants. During the entire process, the families, the Flight 93
Federal Advisory Commission, and the Flight 93 Memorial Task Force, which
includes representatives of the surrounding communities, collaborated as
full partners with the National Park Service. Our role in this process was
to provide staff and logistical support.

Observers and participants have viewed the Flight 93 National Memorial
design competition as an exceptionally open and inclusive process. It
included the deliberations of two separate juries and there were several
opportunities for both online and in-person public comment. Comments were
received on the approximately 1,000 originally submitted designs that were
the subject of the first jury’s analyses, as well as on the five finalist
designs that were evaluated by the second jury. Family members, design
professionals, and community members and/or partner organization
representatives served on both the first and the second stage juries.

The selected design was viewed by all involved in the selection process to
best represent the goals of the mission statement for the memorial. The
goals of the mission statement, developed jointly by the partners mentioned
above, are as follows:
1. Honor the passengers and crew members of Flight 93 who
courageously gave their lives, thereby thwarting a planned attack on
Washington, DC;
2. Allow the public to visit the site and express feelings about the
event and the passengers and crew of Flight 93; and
3. Respect the rural landscape and preserve the solemn and tranquil
setting of the crash site of Flight 93.

The Families of Flight 93, the Federal Advisory Commission and the Flight
93 Task Force continue to support the design process and the final design
selected by the jury.

Given this inclusive selection process, I believe we all can understand and
agree that the design was not intended to imply or depict any religious
iconography. The winning designer, Paul Murdoch, has stated that the
memorial is reflective of the landform, which follows the ridgeline
topography, and is intended to symbolically embrace honor and provide
comfort for the families and their loved ones.

Neither Mr. Murdoch nor the many others involved in the process wish to
have any perceived iconography blemish the intent of the memorial design.
As part of the evolving design process, and in response to the second
jury’s instructions, Mr. Murdoch explored several refinements to the
design, which included negating any perceptions relating to Islamic
symbolism. These refinements are completed. The perceived crescent shape
has been extended more completely into a circle to alleviate
misinterpretation of the site plan graphic. This also preserves the
distinguishing features and concept of this portion of the design, such as
responsiveness to the circular landform of the bowl; engendering a gesture
of collective embrace with a focus on the Sacred Ground; and demarcating
the Flight Path and Crash Site as they break the circle of the bowl. The
entire design is now referred to as “The Flight 93 National Memorial.” We
do not use the term “Crescent of Embrace” any longer.

Please be assured that we are all committed to having a national memorial
that conveys the full honor due to the heroes of Flight 93. Our priority,
now, is to move forward with the building of the memorial, and to continue
to honor the heroic actions of the heroes of Flight 93, who courageously
and successfully thwarted the attack on our nation’s capital on September
11, 2001, thereby saving countless other lives.


Make of it what you will.

 
At 7/29/2006 7:35 AM, Blogger benning said...

All they need do is swing that design around 180 degrees. Now we can kneel facing into it and our shoe soles will be bared toward Mecca. What say the NPS then? Eh?

Ptah! They don't want to acknowledge what's right there in front of them.

Why can't Duckie ever comment without a tangential attack on Bush and obligatory arse-kissing of the Clinton regime's memory? What an odd little fetish he has!

 
At 7/29/2006 9:51 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Benning,
All they need do is swing that design around 180 degrees. Now we can kneel facing into it and our shoe soles will be bared toward Mecca. What say the NPS then? Eh?

And we can make sure that the restroom toilets face Mecca. That's haram, you know. See THIS!

Why can't Duckie ever comment without a tangential attack on Bush and obligatory arse-kissing of the Clinton regime's memory?

Obsessive-compulsive disorder? Beak says that it's "Bush Derangement Syndrome."

But to give Duck his due, he posted a very revealing comment--a few articles down. He's had some interesting experiences in the Middle East and seems to be an Islamophile.

 
At 7/29/2006 9:51 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Benning,
Plus, Duck is a Marxist. You know how utopians are.

 
At 8/10/2006 12:25 AM, Anonymous Skylark said...

I've fired off emails too AOW. Hope it helps.

It is a ghastly idea.

 
At 8/10/2006 6:24 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

HERE is Avenging Apostate's take on the proposed memorial. AA gave me permission to send the essay to the three email addresses mentioned in this posting.

Will objections do any good? I don't know, but the effort to stop this atrocity is worth a try.

As Benning pointed out, it is relatively easy to change the design.

 
At 8/10/2006 8:43 PM, Anonymous Skylark said...

This is the reply I got from Reynolds

Ms.S:



I can assure you that those who have decided that the memorial incorporates Islamic features are wrong. It does not. As Chairman of the Federal Advisory Commission overseeing the processes which have gone on to create the design for the Memorial, and being intimately involved in that design, and having consulted Islamic scholars who agree that the design does not include Islamic symbolism, I can categorically state that the blog reports are absolutely incorrect.



John Reynolds

 
At 8/10/2006 8:59 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Skylark,
I get the same responses.

There is none so blind as he who will not see.

 

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